question to zergers

[Yma]

Zerged zone >>>>>>> empty zone. Were you here when you could run all 12 rvr zones and find no one at prime time, except stealthers at bridges ? Relax and adapt. It's going to be far worst when clustering will be on, just wait and see.

 

[Belomar]

posting a pic with cry me a river, oh never seen that one before....
i guess its the height of IQ i can expect from a zerger.

So, pardon my curiosity, but who the fuck are you, to get on such high horses and post so much bullshit in so little time? Please enlighten us to your identity instead of hiding behind a nickname and hosing the forum with crap.

 

[Ixoth]

yet another thread invaded by swedes having an urge to write their language at every possible occasion

Rofl

 

[Tesla Monkor]

Feels good! my lowby theurgist gained 2 levels!

So if you found yourself with about 12 grey con earth pets on your arse that was them xD

Wait for them gang up on the guy you sent them at, AE Amnesia, voila no more pets.

I don't mind semi-large zergs. Only more fun when they scatter like birds in panic when you plow through them. Made 24K on my SM in the afternoon, and 35K on my healer that evening. ^_^

It only gets annoying when there's so many albs around that you can't CC em properly and their annoying RoG'd tanks and casters cooperate enough to actually start killing you. :/

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

On the whole we loved the mid/hib zerg and we were running 1fg away from our zerg mostly - made 50k+ each for those of us that ran from late-afternoon to early evening and that was with plenty of breaks/replacements etc.

Only time it was a little bit pointless was when we found 3fg mids literally on stick 4-5 times in a row <Shrug>.Got very tempted to do the same back to them but didnt in the end.RvR night tonight should be interesting...

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

Wait for them gang up on the guy you sent them at, AE Amnesia, voila no more pets.

I don't mind semi-large zergs. Only more fun when they scatter like birds in panic when you plow through them. Made 24K on my SM in the afternoon, and 35K on my healer that evening. ^_^

It only gets annoying when there's so many albs around that you can't CC em properly and their annoying RoG'd tanks and casters cooperate enough to actually start killing you. :/

Try doing what we did near the berks villa then if you think thats good our poor sorc was going mental trying to mezz the 3fg mids and 1fg hibs we had charge us spread over 30 seconds...

There was a breon zerg out but they seemed to bugger off home rapidly after we bombed them out of the tower twice <shrug>.On the whole i think the mids had the numbers most of the night barring a few times when all the albs got their fingers out and formed groups up.

 

[Sinnica]

useless albs
they have always been zerging and fleeing when meeting equal numbers so I dunno why that should change now

 

[Jobil]

hook me up with all these whiners CC details, ill have them pay for my account and maybe, just maybe, they can have a semi decent chance of me giving a fuck if i dont play the game the way they do

 

[Pudzy]

how does it feel to always win because you have the numbers and always lose because you lack skill, skill in which you get from playing the game in 8 man groups and not scout bgs.

u have no skill

 

[Vladamir]

So, pardon my curiosity, but who the fuck are you, to get on such high horses and post so much bullshit in so little time? Please enlighten us to your identity instead of hiding behind a nickname and hosing the forum with crap.

Maybe Thugs went to 'big boy' rvr with his sb at last and got pwnd?

 

[atos]

yet another thread invaded by swedes having an urge to write their language at every possible occasion

We are the backbone of the server!

 

[stupeh]

Today we learnt that the game does not revolve around us. Good for you! Tomorrow's lesson: exping in an RvR zone is a risky venture.

I'm going to xp at the legionnaires near Oriens to prove that wrong !

 

[Morchaoron]

how does it feel to always win because you have the numbers and always lose because you lack skill, skill in which you get from playing the game in 8 man groups and not scout bgs.

i always ran with 8 and we too got zerged countless times especially by mids, and when we were in combat 8vs8 and more albs came then that was because we were in a emain /cg to zerg enemies (according to the simple-mided who had to come up with a quick explanation)
Unfortunately, there are no rules enforced that prevent people from 'adding' or 'zerging', and infact, this whole mmorpg is based on being able to zerg if people want to!

If you want to play for 8vs8 skill with balanced teams and no shit i suggest playing fps games like quake CTF, HL2 Team Deathmatch or maybe even 'Counterstrike'

Or you could, just like i did, learn to live with the fact that there will always be zergs and that they will kill you once in a while (or more) and that you cant force other players to play the game your way...

 

[Ketinna]

i always ran with 8 and we too got zerged countless times especially by mids, and when we were in combat 8vs8 and more albs came then that was because we were in a emain /cg to zerg enemies (according to the simple-mided who had to come up with a quick explanation)
Unfortunately, there are no rules enforced that prevent people from 'adding' or 'zerging', and infact, this whole mmorpg is based on being able to zerg if people want to!

If you want to play for 8vs8 skill with balanced teams and no shit i suggest playing fps games like quake CTF, HL2 Team Deathmatch or maybe even 'Counterstrike'

Or you could, just like i did, learn to live with the fact that there will always be zergs and that they will kill you once in a while (or more) and that you cant force other players to play the game your way...

but what is the fun in killing because you have the numbers?, its like playing football with 20 players in one team and 11 in the other.

 

[Vladamir]

but what is the fun in killing because you have the numbers?, its like playing football with 20 players in one team and 11 in the other.

No it's not, because theres a rule that you can't play with more than 11 players on the pitch from one team . As Morch said theres no rule enforcing this.

/pendantic off

 

[Morchaoron]

but what is the fun in killing because you have the numbers?, its like playing football with 20 players in one team and 11 in the other.

i dont know, maybe they see it from a different perspective: while we want 8vs8 rvr, they just want to farm rps just like they farm items with a pve zerg in a dungeon, could be just a farming session to them...
Or maybe for them its just about winning and not about the challenge, like my neighbour who gets very proud of himself each time he catches a big fish just by sitting on his arse, even tho it had no chance vs him...
The reason is irrelevant, zergs will always be there.

Mythic could add some simple things that would make the life of non-zergers a little bit easier, like by making dustclouds appear outside clipping range when 10+ players are (running) close together, but we will never see such things happening from mythic ofcourse, because they will never give a shit about what people who play daoc for rvr want (the reason i left)

 

[charmangle]

Well...

but what is the fun in killing because you have the numbers?, its like playing football with 20 players in one team and 11 in the other.

Well his point here was that there are games which are specially designed for beeing even fights between teams. These games are the games you are looking for if you like only to match skill with skill.

Daoc's RvR are on the other hand not designed for this, and if thats what one is after its just the wrong game. Everything within the game makes it unevenly matched or unfair to one side or the other. Better gear, higher ml, different powers, and the biggie, more powers with higher RR. Or bigger numbers.

Therefor when you choose DAOC as a game you also accept the part that its not an even match. Ofc you can try to find as even matches as possible (Groups of equal rr, equal setup, equal items and equal numbers) but most of the time you will either be so overpowered (in powers or numbers) vs. your oponent that you just have to accept it as a part of the game. (It has to be as booring to beat countless of rr <6 groups with a RR11 group as it is zerging 1 fg rr11s with 200 rr1s) Or do you consider it more skill to outpower someone rather than outnumbering them ?

You have to find parts of every situation, you like, to be able to continue the game. For example...a serg is decently fun if you view it as an RPG. Where your realm has answered a call to arms vs their enemies and are struggling for their own survival, healping eachother as a realm of friends. You wount get much rps but you can instead have the feeling that your realm has been successfully defended against a force of evil (in their mind.

/Charmangle

 

[Roadie]

The fact that people can "outpower you" as you put it means that you can fight enemys of equal numbers but by rights you should lose because they have more abilitys/current patch makes them slightly more powerfull or whatever. If you then win its becuse your side played better/had a luckey break.

Genraly though when it comes down to it whoever plays the best as a team will win....then gain small exta advantages etc but they still genraly win because they play best as a team.

So if your in a low rr group you still stand a chance of beating a high rr guild group if they screw up bit nd you play realy well. Same with taking on ze zerg with a opted group of 8 the chnces are your going to lose but if you can take down 20-30 people with 8 ppl....

basicly what im getting at is being the underdog is fun xD

Likewise the reason why the groups who seldom lose keep playing is there is always a chance of them losing vs a fairly well put together group so there is still some challenge + danger, also they have a reputation to uphold so if they get delt with where they should have won they will want revenge. Or they can revert back to the underdog again by taking on large numbers etc.

zergs can meet another zerg, or they might be taken down by a strong group....so there is still some challenge + element of danger.

people normaly only whine when the situation is such that they dont have any chance of winning at all, thats why there is so much whine about bd's and warlocks and (was) about fz, 1:1 the opposition stood little chance and couldnt do anything about it (still fun for them because somthing unexpected might happen / they might fight more than one person...). And thats why there is whine about zergs most people cnt take on a zerg and lose without ever standing a chance.

imo anyway xD

another procrastination of the nation post ><

 

[Aragyn]

how does it feel to always win because you have the numbers and always lose because you lack skill, skill in which you get from playing the game in 8 man groups and not scout bgs.

Dont know your realm and chars, but guessing it isnt alb. I played solo most of yesterday, was close to the zerg at times, got added on at times, and most likely added sometimes myself.

But with the zergs out that is what happens, every realm zerges, got zerged plenty yesterday, by stealthers and fgs, got a bit pissed, took a break, and came back. Been flooded with zerg whines lately, just chill and DONT GO NEAR THE BRIDGES if you dont want to be zerged!!! It's that simple, maybe you wont find enemies any other places, but that is a risk you take when you come to the places where people gather.

QQ

 

[old.windforce]

posting a pic with cry me a river, oh never seen that one before....
i guess its the height of IQ i can expect from a zerger.

got an iq of 53 and looking for more epeen by posting silly pics but you busted me

at least i don't QQ

 

[Drusus]

We're 2 keeps down, no chance of taking em back with overpowered Hib/Mids even with our zerg.
Atm Hibs and Mids are all over Hadrians wall so we dont have to leave Alb to find RvR, so more and more Albs arrive.
You want the zerg gone, let us take back our keeps and then Albs will split forces, some will go Hib, some will go Mid, some will stay Alb, stealthers will camp docks, etc...
1 on 1 Albs are going to lose, BD's, Chanters, Warlocks, Bainshees, etc...
Does that mean we're less skilled?
Or does that mean we're not playing the 1 button win realms, and are the better players for it?

 

[Treeeebeard]

Or does that mean we're not playing the 1 button win realms, and are the better players for it?

Yes your right! It does, You are teh uber alb and I love you and think your a great player!

 

[Vladamir]

Yes your right! It does, You are teh uber alb and I love you and think your a great player!

I'd say the same for you as a hib but then again you play an animist

 

[Treeeebeard]

I'd say the same for you as a hib but then again you play an animist

And a druid, Dont forget my OP druid who buffshears Lame scouts to death.

(And yes, With aid of a warlock, I manged to finsh a scout of with my n00b level 30 buff shear xD)

Edit: Infact, Just a quesiton, How many buttons you press on your scout?

 

[Vladamir]

Haven't played my scout in ages tbh oO. Although Qbar looks something like (iirc);

Stealth
Crit Shot
Normal Shot
Rapid Fire
Anytime melee style
Slam
Beartooth (reactionary block style w/stun)
Volley

Dunno the others, if i had it FZ and purge/ip etc . Merc on the other hand uses ~3qbars.

 

[Ketinna]

i didnt say it WAS like that, im just asking
where is the fun in defeating enemies when you do it with the numbers.

anyways you seem to defend zerging, i guess its fun if youre a roleplaying alb but for a hib that is trying to have FG fights, you are destroying the game for 30rps. but its like talking to daycare kids here on FH, some of you couldnt even read the question,you just read 2 words and then posted a reply.

again as i said, its the height of IQ expected on these boards.

 

[Tiques]

i didnt say it WAS like that, im just asking
where is the fun in defeating enemies when you do it with the numbers.

anyways you seem to defend zerging, i guess its fun if youre a roleplaying alb but for a hib that is trying to have FG fights, you are destroying the game for 30rps. but its like talking to daycare kids here on FH, some of you couldnt even read the question,you just read 2 words and then posted a reply.

again as i said, its the height of IQ expected on these boards.

Seriously, you seem to be the one lacking the IQ.

Sure, you want 8vs8, others want 1vs1, yet others really want to just fight ALL MID vs ALL ALB vs ALL HIB, you know, the thing that is accually the point of the game (more or less), sure, the felling of a 1on1 or 8on8 victory is better (i think so anyway) and more rewarding, but that is just an opinion!

Until you can comprehend that your opinion is NOT equal to the general opinion and that the world aint centered around you (as that is how you make yourself sound by your posts) you should really not start to insult other people for their IQ levels, oh, and by IQ, which sort of IQ do you mean?

Math IQ surely have nothing to do with it, they know they outnumber you, that aint the problem...

Social IQ, nah, they group with a lot more, you see?

Music / Artistical IQ, well, dont really think that have any influence, do you?

Cba to list the rest of the 7 "standard" IQ types, but can you list the one you think people is lacking when they can't see that the world IS centered around you, your needs and the things you want?

EDIT: made a little error

 

[Aragyn]

i didnt say it WAS like that, im just asking
where is the fun in defeating enemies when you do it with the numbers.

anyways you seem to defend zerging, i guess its fun if youre a roleplaying alb but for a hib that is trying to have FG fights, you are destroying the game for 30rps. but its like talking to daycare kids here on FH, some of you couldnt even read the question,you just read 2 words and then posted a reply.

again as i said, its the height of IQ expected on these boards.

I am not defending zerging as it can be very dull, but let me ask you something, how would you feel if you got farmed for hours and hours? I dont think you would bother playing, so if they cba dying anymore, they get strenght in numbers, quite understandable, no?

And hibs zerg aswell fyi , and again, you can stay away from the crowded areas, there are other FGs running around, look them up other places then, or if you cant, just stfu, stay away from bridges and PvE, people who cant get groups or just die, they use numbers to get strength, deal with it... You whining wont stop it, as many that zerg doesnt read FH, or need to do it to have fun...

Sounds like im for zerging now But im really not....

 

[Treeeebeard]

Haven't played my scout in ages tbh oO. Although Qbar looks something like (iirc);

Stealth
Crit Shot
Normal Shot
Rapid Fire
Anytime melee style
Slam
Beartooth (reactionary block style w/stun)
Volley

Dunno the others, if i had it FZ and purge/ip etc . Merc on the other hand uses ~3qbars.

My Ani use's 5 QB's before you make it out to be one who use's bearly any buttons to kill tbh

 

[Vladamir]

My Ani use's 5 QB's before you make it out to be one who use's bearly any buttons to kill tbh

Shroom, shroom, shroom, shroom, shroom, shroom, shroom, shroom, shroom, shroom x5?.

/flamebait off /sarcasm off