Question re instruments

[andyr00barb]

Degradation aside, what is the best con instrument for a minstrel to use? Blue/yellow/orange? I would assume yellow.

If yellow is not available, which is more effective blue or orange?

Regards...

 

[Nilo Lupinion]

yellow/blue/green goes for the lute and drums, but for flute orange for its more effective ability to mez/charm higher con mobs.

 

[minnie]

yep Nilo is right.

Im using con yellow flute and drum (crafted) and green lute at level 48

 

[andyr00barb]

Is it possibly to have a sufficiently good instrument that means that orange con mobs won't turn around and bitch slap you now and again when you've got one as a pet?

Or are orange con pets just a bad idea?

ttfn..

 

[minnie]

i cant be arsed with pets so I can't really answer that.

I would tho be interested in knowing just how useful mins pets really are ?

I have found that soloing is faster without a pet ...so there must be something I don't know if other minstrels find em useful.

 

[<Wels>]

50i/39sl/18st

I can safely say that pets up to 54(orange) behave very nicely with 64(+11 items)(+4rr)

56(red) can be controled if you keep your eye on the ressits.

58(highest charmable) these are basically spam that charm button and you will be kinda paralyized to do anything else.

PS: If you want to be bale to melee together with your pet you will want +11 intruments even without flute/drum up. If you can manage like 58 instrumnets you need to lower your pet level to 52 to basically not bother about ressits.

 

[minnie]

Wels my hero and the reason I decided to create a minstrel

cheers Wels

 

[andyr00barb]

If I have instruments to my lvl, will I benefit from +instrument items? From what you are saying it sounds like I would.

 

[Danya]

Flute affects mez only. Yellow is optimal, if you can't get that go for orange (will behave like yellow but degrade faster).

For charm, it's your instruments level. Best pet I've used successfully was a level 52 with 44+14 instruments. Generally pets at your level behave best in my experience. As for how useful they are, depends on the pet. Having a heal pet and leaving it on passive can be very effective. Nuke pets are nice too. Even tank pets can provide a bit of damage-add, though a nuker is better for that.

 

[andyr00barb]

Hypothetical question then. If I have a lvl 24 minstrel and I have instruments 24+5, should I be able to charm lvl 29 mobs? Is your ability to charm simply your instrument lvl versus mobs lvl?

If that's the case, does anyone know where I can get some nice +instrument items. Ones I know of are a bracer from cats and a necklace off a named mob in Llyn Barfog. Any other nice items out there?

Thanks for your input so far guys, I'm learning all the time.

 

[Danya]

That's the thoery, but as I mentioned with 44+14 (58) instru, I couldn't really hold much over a level 52. So it looks like it might have some falloff over your level.
As for instruments items, they're pretty rare except for on instruments themselves (qhich then precludes fighting). There's a pair of chain gloves in DF with some + instru (the diamond seal gloves) and arawnite chain from snowdonia has +instru on the coif.

 

[andyr00barb]

Where does charisma come into all this then?

 

[Danya]

Charisma determines your power pool and the amount of damage your DDs do.

 

[andyr00barb]

Aren't you capped to (lvl/5) + 1 for bonuses? Which would make your instruments 44 + 11. In which case a 52 lvl mob ain't too shabby. I'm still a bit surprised that taking instruments above your lvl with items has any benefit.

 

[Danya]

44 + 11 items + 3 realm rank = 44+14