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MKJ

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I recorded that with a headphone mic that had been jammed in a drawer so that the mic part was close to the guitar :) . Computer software has come on leaps and bounds now. Just press a button and it removes a great deal of the background noise. Also I have flash music streamers on my site that enhance sound a bit - though I taken the site offline at the moment cos I wrecked the bloody design again.

Glad you liked it Noblok. Got about 20 more songs that I could post now. Real nice ones too. Will let youse lot know about them when they ready no-doubt. :drink: . Time forra drink come to think of it.
 

rynnor

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Latuvu Kmk said:
And for those guys flaming, we wouldnt need higher realm rank if you wouldn't zerg all the time. So let's try to wonder about what others do and why, before flaming or qq'ing

Thats a poor excuse - every realm zergs so every realm could justify it to themselves on that basis - people did it to be l33t or to compete with others they held to be l33t - no more no less - good riddance to it say I.

Sad to see mids/hibs crossrealming so much tonight too but I guess it made things more interesting tho it does kinda screw the spirit of the game...
 

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rynnor said:
Thats a poor excuse - every realm zergs so every realm could justify it to themselves on that basis - people did it to be l33t or to compete with others they held to be l33t - no more no less - good riddance to it say I.

Sad to see mids/hibs crossrealming so much tonight too but I guess it made things more interesting tho it does kinda screw the spirit of the game...
Every realm zergs indeed and RR2's of every realm justify being RR2 as a mean to compete against superior numbers. You may pretend to know everything about their motivations for all you like, but the truth is: the only ones who know for sure why they are RR2 are these people themselves, so spare us your psychological analysis please.

On the cross-realming subject: need specifics. When there is 1 Mid and 1 Hib being attacked by 5 Albs, wouldn't it be common sense to team up against the Albs? Wouldn't it also be general courtesy to let the Hib/Mid live if you win? To be honest: I have "cross-realmed" equally much with Hibs as Albs today. Not much more I can say, since I don't know who you're playing in Thidranki or what exact situation you're talking about.


Blokkie, Thane
 

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noblok said:
On the cross-realming subject: need specifics. When there is 1 Mid and 1 Hib being attacked by 5 Albs, wouldn't it be common sense to team up against the Albs?

I'm talking about groups from mid and hib cooperating to attack albs in a combined attack - was at least 3 such attacks - thats what I call cross-realming the other stuff about who to attack in a mixed melee is up to the individual.
 

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rynnor said:
I'm talking about groups from mid and hib cooperating to attack albs in a combined attack - was at least 3 such attacks - thats what I call cross-realming the other stuff about who to attack in a mixed melee is up to the individual.
Ah, in that case it does seem a bit odd. Oh well, maybe you were just unlucky :).
 

MKJ

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Another fantastic poem from MKJ - ala Thugs.

There was this uber poem writer (all poems should start with 'There was')
That wrote about stuff that was so perfectly righter (yeah yeah)
Had a head full of amazing ideas
But no-where to go - hell his ed was in arrears (now that is damn good)

Anyways he looked around the net for release
But hardly anywhere he could find suitable - kapeeessshhhh (rhymes)
So he decided to torment the geezers wot frequent DAOC
Well made sense to him cos his browser was DOAC - eh headeeee (you gotta give and take with this poem writing you know)

He felt better after a while
Cos peeps still responded though with a sense of guarded guile (posh or wot?)
He still had the skill to make people respond to the extent they became ill
Cos he is and always will be the 'King of Thid' - hell offa grind - just like an ancient mill.
Entrenched is Thugs in Thid like a beakon of old
Thugs is going no-where and will make you cold

Another poem by Thugs. Donations accepted.
 

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noblok said:
Ah, in that case it does seem a bit odd. Oh well, maybe you were just unlucky :).

remember two days ago blokkie, at ck ^^
 

Ashton

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Elkie said:
Broken, nice see you back
thx m8 but it werent me, as Knighthood (aka Quarter) mentioned i been pretty much inactive now for the past 3 months, partly due to wow and some other personal reasons (nothing bad btw). Although my account is still active and i do still pop on occasionally.

infact the only char i have with the name ''Broken'' in it is my infil. oh and my bot.

so i guess u were mistaking me with some other guildies who also got similar names (its a guild thing :p )

i'm sure i'll re-roll another infil although i got no immediate plans to do so :)

and to the guy who said its easy to get on the oil/get rr2 etc, from my experience it wasn't. if u are lucky enough to beat everyone else to the oil u gotta be even luckier to stay alive long enough to use it. the main rps comes from keep/tower defence/take bonus rps, with random treb rps topping them up along the way. i'm not saying its hard by any means, but it takes a fair bit of time and its not as easy as u say :)
 

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Its nice that they fixed this.

Now i dont have to go and get rr2 on my skald :cheers:

Will miss doing PA in on some random bluecon caster in zergs and use vannish thou on SB :D, not that i have played my bg sb for a year .. but still :p
 

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Kalidur said:
If thats true i am so happy, what you wanna be leet players dont see is that thanks to your rr2 toons you've made thid less appealing to the masses when you realise that you have to be RR2 to compete, yes this is aimed directy at the "brokeninf" crew (sorry i mentioned your name but i really do think its lame for someone to abuse the mechanics in that way), but from day 1 i've been against the idea of being allowed into thid with higher specs than anyone else, yes mythic has made it possible but i really think its lame letting RR2 people into thid.


Good riddens to a bad crowd as i see it, thid should only be open to people who can get upto 1.4, why people want thid with rr2 or even rr 1.7 beats me, maybe they're too crap to play on an equal playing field.

Just my 2 cents (so to speak) u may not agree with it but thats just my opinion, thid isnt for rr2 its for rr 1.4 and no higher. To be honest i have very little respect for the people that run around rr2 in thid. wtf own people with rr 2, without a BB and i will bow to you, but when you have the advantage it just in my opinion seems like the shite little player who are too incompetent to play with the rest and has to have that little advantage.


OMG !!! ur here too ?? !!!
spreading the crap ...

u justify zergs , u think that 1fg vs 1 solo is more cool than 1vs1
AND now u whine about some people getting higher rr than you ...

take a chillpill before u blow an anal vent.

i give u a +1 :)
 

Kalidur

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Bigbrother said:
OMG !!! ur here too ?? !!!
spreading the crap ...

u justify zergs , u think that 1fg vs 1 solo is more cool than 1vs1
AND now u whine about some people getting higher rr than you ...

take a chillpill before u blow an anal vent.

i give u a +1 :)

/shrug

i see i have an admirer

i'll send you a signed picture
 

Strega

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Enough already

Most of the guys who were rr1l5 - rr2+ in thid that I know got it for themselves either because they solo and were outnumbered most of the time or ran in a gg facing another gg with the same abilities. Those people are the ones that always showed the best attitude and respect for others through time on different thid alts(You know who you are). Any assumption that these guys lack the sense of fair play and "needed rr2" just proves your own ignorance.
 

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Strega said:
Most of the guys who were rr1l5 - rr2+ in thid that I know got it for themselves either because they solo and were outnumbered most of the time or ran in a gg facing another gg with the same abilities. Those people are the ones that always showed the best attitude and respect for others through time on different thid alts(You know who you are). Any assumption that these guys lack the sense of fair play and "needed rr2" just proves your own ignorance.

Take a page out of MKJ's book, as much as i hate to say it, he didnt need a BB, didnt need RR2, didnt even need TOA to compete, he still won many many fights, i say in my opinion MKJ is a far better player than any of you buffed, RR2 or twinked to TOA will ever be, why ? he relied purely on his class and not, buffs, RA's overcapped stats to compete. Thats the difference and he has proved that it is possible. You can no longer use the argument that you need a BB or RR2 to compete, if you do we'll just point at MKJ (there are others, but he has the biggest gob)
 

Kalidur

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Bigbrother said:
sutch a leet attitude :) of your playskill was just as good ;)
+1 :)

leave me a lone or i'll call the police, i dont need a stalker (second thread you've hijacked with a personal shot at me)

If you'd like a discussion on something feel free to bring up a topic, but stop trying to take cheep shots at me, did i hit a nerve some time ?

Stick to topic and disagree or agree with something i've written, or ask me to justify something rather than, omg you posted your opinions again. My opinions are dynamic and through time when i learn more my opinions are open to change, you are not going to change them by telling me they are wrong, discuss with me why you think they are wrong and i'll try and make a decision with any new information i may have picked up. Saying that i need to take a chill pill before i vent my opinion in no way shows what floors you may think i have in my opinion, to which i am open to discuss.

On a passing note my first few posts were under the influence of alcohol to which i should appologise, uninfluenced i tend not to be so personaly, so i appologise to anyone i directly offended, and i suppose i can do nothing but hold my head in shame of letting alcohol cloud a few of my post, i still stand by the opinion that RR2 in thid is wrong, but i could have voiced my opinion a little better.
 

Bigbrother

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Kalidur said:
leave me a lone or i'll call the police, i dont need a stalker (second thread you've hijacked with a personal shot at me)

If you'd like a discussion on something feel free to bring up a topic, but stop trying to take cheep shots at me, did i hit a nerve some time ?

Stick to topic and disagree or agree with something i've written, or ask me to justify something rather than, omg you posted your opinions again. My opinions are dynamic and through time when i learn more my opinions are open to change, you are not going to change them by telling me they are wrong, discuss with me why you think they are wrong and i'll try and make a decision with any new information i may have picked up. Saying that i need to take a chill pill before i vent my opinion in no way shows what floors you may think i have in my opinion, to which i am open to discuss.

On a passing note my first few posts were under the influence of alcohol to which i should appologise, uninfluenced i tend not to be so personaly, so i appologise to anyone i directly offended, and i suppose i can do nothing but hold my head in shame of letting alcohol cloud a few of my post, i still stand by the opinion that RR2 in thid is wrong, but i could have voiced my opinion a little better.


appologise accepted.
 

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Bigbrother said:
appologise accepted.

wasnt appologising to you, but if it'll stop the cheep shots you keep throwing at me, i'm sorry



lol that still made me laugh
 

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Kalidur said:
wasnt appologising to you, but if it'll stop the cheep shots you keep throwing at me, i'm sorry



lol that still made me laugh

no seriously m8 , and i dare to call you that. was cheap of me , and uncalled for, just that some of the posts is so .... how do i put it.. extrem.. witch called for more .. extrem replies

That said, i do respect your opinions, ofc i dont always agree. but still.

i try be more diplomatic as well ;)

and back to topic :

well, the hole idea with ml's and rr's is to get it high so u can have an advantage, you see that in NF all the time , low rr people vs high rr people
Thid or whatever BG , only reflect and prepare you for the time to come, so if you cant deal with it there , you never can

/hug
 

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Bigbrother said:
no seriously m8 , and i dare to call you that. was cheap of me , and uncalled for, just that some of the posts is so .... how do i put it.. extrem.. witch called for more .. extrem replies

That said, i do respect your opinions, ofc i dont always agree. but still.

i try be more diplomatic as well ;)

/hug

point taken, i'll try and hold back in future ;), but not always :) or i woudlnt be me :)
 

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Bigbrother said:
well, the hole idea with ml's and rr's is to get it high so u can have an advantage, you see that in NF all the time , low rr people vs high rr people
Thid or whatever BG , only reflect and prepare you for the time to come, so if you cant deal with it there , you never can

at level 50 you kill other people of your level to gain RR's, at level 24 try killing a level 50 mob/player to gain xp, you cant, its done by exploiting oil/trebs and hanging around to get keep take/defence bonuses (hopefully one day this bonus will be limited to 40+ toons), you know that when RVR missions were first introduced they never had a level 40 level cap, so level 20 toons would go and do scouting missions to get the rr2.4 cap at level 24 ?

it was an exploit and was soon removed, similarly how rr2 in thid was an exploit and has rightly been removed.

how RR2 in thid was achieved, when your fighting a level 50 toon/mob at level 24 your damage is significantly reduced if you land a strike, doesnt matter if your melee, archer or caster, but any of these classes can jump on a treb or oil and not face the same drawbacks. Not only in my opinion was rr2 in thid an exploit but how people got to it was also an exploit. RR2 in thid in my opinion is one of quite a few exploits that need to be addressed, but adding a level 40 cap to rvr missions and now what’s happened in thid in my opinion is moving in the right direction, others will obviously disagree and say that its not an exploit or OP (which is another point) in thid.

So in responce to people preparing better, people in NF are preparing the same as everyone else, in thid its by exploits, not everyone is willing abuse exploits. I know there are people who will argue that using oil at level 24 to kill level 50's isn’t exploiting anything to which I disagree.
 

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Kalidur said:
Take a page out of MKJ's book, as much as i hate to say it, he didnt need a BB, didnt need RR2, didnt even need TOA to compete, he still won many many fights, i say in my opinion MKJ is a far better player than any of you buffed, RR2 or twinked to TOA will ever be, why ? he relied purely on his class and not, buffs, RA's overcapped stats to compete.
lol not at all, he relies pretty much purely on runthrough to compete. It suprises me that u seem to condone that, but accuse ppl that had RR2 of ''abusing game mechanics''.

Also i take it u dont use a BB then?

p.s. :clap: for the apology to everyone

p.p.s Hi Strega :worthy: (sorry, but now started sayin hi to my m8s in this thread i kinda feel like i cant stop!)
 

Kalidur

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Ashton said:
lol not at all, he relies pretty much purely on runthrough to compete. It suprises me that u seem to condone that, but accuse ppl that had RR2 of ''abusing game mechanics''.


I said take a page not the whole book.

run through requires a certain degree of skill and timing to pull off continously. Buffing up, over capping and once your RR2 theres no skill involved. he not only runs through but he also changes wepons in the middle of fights and run throughs, thats not easy to pull off.

I remember reading in a certain grab bag that it wasnt meant to be like that. Mythic will fix it one day and i'll post my opinion to MKJ than, but now the flavour of the month is RR2 so i'm posting as such.

You see the most irritating thing about RR2 toons is how people try and justify it, just get off your ego trips and admit the only reason to get RR2 is to give yourself an advantage over the rest. Leveling the playing field is crap when considering i'll easily say 90% + of people in thid per day arnt over 1.4, and that being solo your not meant to take out a FG (unless they're totaly newbies and even then theres gonna have to be a lot of luck involved) in thid. Those seem to be the 2 main reasons people are trying to use to justify RR2.

Why doesnt everyone "need" to be rr2 to compete, and why dont all soloist "need" to be RR2 to counter the zerg (/shrugs), there are those that "want" the advantage RR2 can bring and i respect their opinion (dont agree but respect there opinion) they are honest and dont try and glorify it.

MKJ is still far better a player than any of you RR2, fully buffed TOA'd toons that are WTF owning everyone in thid.

In regards to buffs, in the BG's i do perfectly fine without them, maybe not against stealthers but i've long overlooked each time i get killed by stealthers. The vast majority of them are buffed so i dont even take notice.

/release and return.
 

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tbh Both Ashton and Strega rr2 toons were good to fight... and i didnt see the problem with then having a little more than some ppl. they beat me and i beat them..

PPL seem to forget that alot of the Good Players in thid for a Long and a Good time... If you cant take porting back to CK every time you get spanked dont whine of FH cuz tbh you just makes you look worst off..
 

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Umgrud said:
tbh Both Ashton and Strega rr2 toons were good to fight... and i didnt see the problem with then having a little more than some ppl. they beat me and i beat them..

PPL seem to forget that alot of the Good Players in thid for a Long and a Good time... If you cant take porting back to CK every time you get spanked dont whine of FH cuz tbh you just makes you look worst off..

if thats aimed at me i never whined about getting killed and having to run back from CK, mostly i prefer it, simply for the full HP and POWER you get back.

There you said it having that little bit of an advantage, thats what a lot of people arnt acknowledging and trying to say that they needed it or its to counter a zerg, If they had said its for that little advantage i doubt i would have posted so much.
 

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Kalidur said:
just get off your ego trips and admit the only reason to get RR2 is to give yourself an advantage over the rest.

That's what daoc is about, to improve you character. However you seem to compare rr2 to cheating when it was there for anyone to get. My savage Ovo is the char I've been most active on and has been 1L4 the entire time.
My point in the previous post was that although some guys had ip/charge etc, they wouldn't use it in a "fair fight"-the reason of which these guys come back to thid.
 

Umgrud

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tbh if it was rr10 vs rr1L4 then i can see your point
but this isnt the case its some extra point that make very little dif

and you dont see lvl50's saying nerf rr10's cuz i am only rr1L4 and i cant compeat with them..

the one thing that gets most ppl is "Runthrough and Strafing" that is for the ppl that cant take the knocks... Stand still and the game = fare again.
 

Kalidur

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Strega said:
That's what daoc is about, to improve you character. However you seem to compare rr2 to cheating when it was there for anyone to get. My savage Ovo is the char I've been most active on and has been 1L4 the entire time.

there you go to improve your character, not to level the playing field or to counter the zergs.

See you do in your own way agree with me that people got to RR2 to get that advantage and not to level the playing field or counter zergs.

It wasnt exactly open to everyone, only to the people that wished to exploit the game, not everyone maybe willing to exploit things, i personaly see exploits a way of taking the chalange out the game. Its like a game of chess, you play with an equal its a lot of fun, play with someone a lot better or a lot worse just isnt fun. Good for the ego but not as satisfying as winning a drooling match.

Talking about exploits its recently come to light that vamps have been powering up on friendly casted pets, thats an exploit and in my opinion it takes the chalange out of a vamp, would you say that this exploit is to counter the zergs or to equal the playing field because every other vamp has the ability to do the same ? or would you if you made a vamp not do it due to it meaning you could whipe the floor with the next 2-3 people you faught ?
 

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