Problem ?!

[Latuvu Kmk]

I can't go to Thidranki with my vampiir anymore, i'm lvl 24 and 1L7, and before today i could do it... So i'm wondering if it's a bug or ...

 

[Raven]

Change in the access conditions to Thidranki
As you might already know, Thidranki is one of the most busy battlegrounds in the game since it is accessible to characters from level 20 to 24. So it allows players using the /level command to begin with their new level 20 characters. The battlegrounds table in the RvR Manual specifies the elements present in each battleground as well as the access conditions and the realmranks limits in order to obtain realm points in these battlegrounds.
But we recently noted that players with characters fulfilling the level conditions for Thidranki are artificially increasing their realmrank in the Frontier Zone (with the help of higher level characters) to gain a disproportionate advantage over those who play normally in the battleground. It is not normal to have to confront characters with one or several realm skills activated in Thidranki.

Therefore, we decided to restore the access conditions to this battleground according to the realmranks. It will be the same system as with the levels, it will not be possible to access the Thidranki with a character with a realmrank higher than Rank 1 Level 4. And if the character has just been killed or is returning to his fortress after he passed Rank 1 Level 5 (just the same if he passed from level 24 to level 25), he will have to leave the battleground.

For information, it is only from Braemar (level 25-29) that you can meet characters with their realm skills activated ; from Wilton (levels 30-34) that characters with artifacts will be allowed to enter ; and from Leirvik (levels 40-44) that characters with Master Level abilities will have access to the battlegrounds.

taken from http://daoc.goa.com/en/

pwned?

 

[Jarod]

/ Daisho - Infil /Dweb - Theurg

 

[Latuvu Kmk]

Lol I guess thidranki is dead...

 

[Byob]

lol? dont play with an advantage over most ppl then

 

[Coldbeard]

Poor people who has used alot of effort to get a few realm levels over standard thid cap, now all in vaiiiiiiiiiiiiin!


doOooM doOOooOm!

 

[Staffzor]

Lol I guess thidranki is dead...

haha that is class . This must be the best the best friday news ever!

 

[Elkie]

HAHA i got pwned!!! xD o well need to reroll anyway still going to be called Elkei delete one i got now ( was 45 kills away from Master soldier:<) o wel xD

 

[Hamro]

guess i have to reroll my vamp, druid, bard and blademaster now.

first they say its working as intended when people complain and now they have changed forcing people to roll. they could just reset rps for these characters

 

[Infilly]

owned

 

[Elkie]

still waiting for the /cancelexp comman thoe ive asked em for years

 

[Ashton]

still waiting for the /cancelexp comman thoe ive asked em for years

/agree (hey elike )

they could just reset rps for these characters

/agree (hey hamro )

And if the character has just been killed or is returning to his fortress after he passed Rank 1 Level 5 (just the same if he passed from level 24 to level 25), he will have to leave the battleground.

so if you're on 349rps and get 2rps next kill, you're kicked from thid...

yeah nice 1

p.s. (hey Coldbeard )

 

[Kalidur]

I can't go to Thidranki with my vampiir anymore, i'm lvl 24 and 1L7, and before today i could do it... So i'm wondering if it's a bug or ...

If thats true i am so happy, what you wanna be leet players dont see is that thanks to your rr2 toons you've made thid less appealing to the masses when you realise that you have to be RR2 to compete, yes this is aimed directy at the "brokeninf" crew (sorry i mentioned your name but i really do think its lame for someone to abuse the mechanics in that way), but from day 1 i've been against the idea of being allowed into thid with higher specs than anyone else, yes mythic has made it possible but i really think its lame letting RR2 people into thid.


Good riddens to a bad crowd as i see it, thid should only be open to people who can get upto 1.4, why people want thid with rr2 or even rr 1.7 beats me, maybe they're too crap to play on an equal playing field.

Just my 2 cents (so to speak) u may not agree with it but thats just my opinion, thid isnt for rr2 its for rr 1.4 and no higher. To be honest i have very little respect for the people that run around rr2 in thid. wtf own people with rr 2, without a BB and i will bow to you, but when you have the advantage it just in my opinion seems like the shite little player who are too incompetent to play with the rest and has to have that little advantage.

 

[Kalidur]

you may say rr2 is nothing, but its the difference in having 0.5 parry, 0.5% shield ( and any other defence) , + 1 to all your skill, it may seem small at level 50 but it aint small at level 24. So on a closing note good riddens to you cheep cheaters.

 

[Ashton]

If thats tru...

no need to be so hostile towards those players u mention imo. if u actually took the time to speak to some of the ppl that i know of, who are RR2, u might find that they are not such a ''bad crowd'' (or any of the other little insults u throw around)

/edit: i see u toned down what u originally posted somewhat (adjusted mine accordingly)

/edit2:

So on a closing note good riddens to you cheep cheaters

get a clue

 

[Kalidur]

no need to be so hostile towards those players u mention imo. if u actually took the time to speak to some of the ppl that i know who are RR2, u might find that they are not such a ''bad crowd'' (or any of the other little insults u throw around)

/edit i see u toned down what u originally posted somewhat (adjusted mine accordingly)

I dont disagree with them people being nice, being nice and playing fair dont always go hand in hand, i just have now and from day one have always thought it was unfair for somone to gain such an advantage. Maybe u do disagree with me i would never deny you the right, but just in my opinion its unfair. Why should this person be complimented on so many kills when they were achieved by abusing the game mechanics.

I dont agree with BB's but they are still there, and at the moment mythic aint doing much about it, but they are doing something to stop people above rr 1.4 getting into thid, and for that i am grateful.

I have read many posts complimenting people on killing other people thanks to them being RR2 i never agreed with it, but mythic never did anything to stop it, now they have and my initial opinion has been confirmed that it is wrong for an RR2 player to be in thid, and for that i have the oppertunity to gloat at the people who abused the game mechanics.

Sorry for taking advantage of how the game was meant to be played, but i think i deserve it from getting killed by a duffed RR2 stealther whilst playing a palidin (plate armour + high defence u aint meant o be able to go down to stealthers, casters yes, stealthers no. (I also played many casters and tanks), I just think its about time mythic sorted that out.

Oh i didnt change much of my post, not for it to mean what i didnt initially set out for it to mean which was that its an unfair advantage having a RR2 toon in thid. Maybe things will level itself out a bit, vanish, MCL in thid, come on thats just unfair.

 

[rynnor]

Its a great move by GOA that levels the playing field very nicely - sure theres still buffed guys using mp gear etc but at least we dont have to put up with heavy ra's.

It was a bug that such folks could enter thid anyway and this is a good fix - I actually think thid could come more alive after it.

 

[Ashton]

i see u totally missed my point, so i'll repeat again...

theres no need to insult me or any of the other ppl u mention for meerly taking advantage of what the game allowed. u make some valid points(unfortunately accompanied by some kinda cheap shot), and then go on to ruin them in the next breath by calling ppl ''cheap cheaters'' when it clearly isnt the case.

 

[uron]

i dont mind myself if people are RR2 or wateva, u can all be the same rank, same as using Sced armour imo. i dont care and dont really consider it cheating, and also im not higher then 1L4.

Uron
(poisonblade, thid alt)

 

[noblok]

You can still go in Thid with more than 350 rp's. just not with a higher realm rank than 1L4 (hey Ashton ). I have more than 350 rp's on Blokkie and left and entered fine today.

I was never bothered with RR2 in Thidranki, but I'm not too bothered that it's no longer possible either. For groups this is probably a good change (no more sos), but for solo it will matter little. The only thing which annoys me about this change is that I feel sorry for the people who went through all the hassle of getting RR2.

To Kalidur: I'm sorry, but I don't agree with you on this one. There are a few people who are really clueless and get RR2, but that doesn't help them when they use their heat-piercers on my thane. People like Ashton and Elkie are pretty good players. To be honest, Brokeninfiltrator "wtf owned" me (to use your words) without buffs and even without stealth. Now bow for him .

However, if this helps making Thidranki more alive, which I doubt, I'll fully support this move .


Blokkie, Thane

 

[Kalidur]

i see u totally missed my point, so i'll repeat again...

theres no need to insult me or any of the other ppl u mention for meerly taking advantage of what the game allowed. u make some valid points(unfortunately accompanied by some kinda cheap shot), and then go on to ruin them in the next breath by calling ppl ''cheap cheaters'' when it clearly isnt the case.

I appologise for using your name but you seem to be the most infamous RR2 toon in thid.

I have read your posts, u have never done anything to condone the fact that people are abusing the game mechanics. I could have easily posted my post with nothing but insults of how crap people who play rr2 toons in thid are. and theres very little you could say to justify otherwise thanks to this patch, but i tried to be civil and point out that it has never been fair to be rr2 in thid.

In your opinion i may have a low view of people who have a RR2 toon in thid, if you can in any way justify your need to be RR2 in this i will gladly change my opinion, but until than i will have a very low opinion on people getting RR2 in thid. God mode doom anyone ?

I'm sorry but until you can clearly justify the need to be RR2 in thid apart from the ego boosting easy kills you get, its not a question of will I, its a question of can i change my stance.

I hold my opinions as do you, unfortunately for you this certain opinion is in my court so to speak, mythic have listened to us to bid good riddens to rr 1.5 and above people in thid (which still for the life of me i cannot comprehend apart from giving yourself god mode)

 

[noblok]

Not exactly on-topic:

Sorry for taking advantage of how the game was meant to be played, but i think i deserve it from getting killed by a duffed RR2 stealther whilst playing a palidin (plate armour + high defence u aint meant o be able to go down to stealthers, casters yes, stealthers no.

As a paladin you shouldn't go down (often) against a caster, use your instant taunt (and charges if you have acces to them). However, from my experience a well played assassin has a 50% chance of winning against a tank. Brokeninfiltrator once duelled me (unbuffed) and was left with 60% hp. I have also duelled a friend of mine's shadowblade a few times: he used slash against my chain and the fights were always pretty close. These debuffs and PA hurt a lot.


Blokkie, Thane

 

[Coldbeard]

hiya Broken, long time no see

as to the matter of being RR2 in Thidranki, I think anyone who are devoted enough to thidranki playing and wants to optimize his character by getting rr2 on a lvl 24 toon ( It is infact alot of work) should be able to enjoy some of the advantages this gives, I dont see this as a great balance issue as some people make it look like, at least you got an excuse for losing vs them

oh, and hi Blokkie

 

[Kalidur]

Not exactly on-topic:As a paladin you shouldn't go down (often) against a caster, use your instant taunt (and charges if you have acces to them). However, from my experience a well played assassin has a 50% chance of winning against a tank. Brokeninfiltrator once duelled me (unbuffed) and was left with 60% hp. I have also duelled a friend of mine's shadowblade a few times: he used slash against my chain and the fights were always pretty close. These debuffs and PA hurt a lot.


Blokkie, Thane

So why do they have the need to be RR2 in thid, my reaver got to rr 2.8, and my fire wiz got to RR 3 without a BB or without abusing game mechanics (in the BG's). I think if anyone has the right to moan at the people being RR2 in thid its me, i never cut the corners i played fair and anyone who ever faced me would know that when they beat me it was down to them being a better player to which i accept, but its a far better acceptance to accepting that thanks to this guy abusing the game mechanics he beat you.

I aint saying ashton/broken infil is a bad player, but my opinion on them being RR2 in thid will never chainge (its just a cheap shot), as far as i am concerned they could be prince charming they still abused the game mechanics. As an even semi inteligent player you should have forseen this patch, thid doesnt allow you to get more than 350 RP's for a reason.

Not every saint is blameless, just for one mistake doesnt necesarily make you a bad person. U live you learn.

Take my points to its extremes if you wish but my opinion on people seeing the need to be RR2 in thid will never change. /level isnt hard, /level 20 + RR2 is a concious choice, if you choose the path you must face the consequences. Its a concious choice you make giving youself that advantage over 99.9% of the player base there. +1 to all skill at level 50 aint much but at level 24 its a big difference.

 

[Hamro]

Its a great move by GOA that levels the playing field very nicely - sure theres still buffed guys using mp gear etc but at least we dont have to put up with heavy ra's.

It was a bug that such folks could enter thid anyway and this is a good fix - I actually think thid could come more alive after it.

its not a bug..they stated if was working as intended then to later change their minds leaving us with unusable characters that we have to reroll, we are only talking about 30-50 characters tops here.. i dont see why they couldnt either reset or strip all rps from these characters

 

[noblok]

Yeah, I see your point. The battlegrounds were probably supposed to scale in similarity to 'the real thing' and in that light this is a good change. You must admit though, that the language in your first post(s) was a bit offensive .

I can understand that they seem bad players to you, needing every advantage they can get, but let me assure you though, the "Brokeninfiltrator crew" are not only nice people, they play their character decent as well. They don't really need that extra realmrank. I will admit though that there are people who are RR2 and who play rather bad, but I don't consider them part of that group. I consider them part of the "wannabe-brokeninfiltrator crew" .

I still don't believe it's that big a difference, but since neither of us will be convinced it's not worth going into a discussion about it .


Blokkie, Thane
( Coldbeard)

 

[Ridje]

personaly i found rr2 not to be a problem as some of them drop'd pretty much the same as an 1l4 sc'd toon, if you just took the time to learn how to play your chara and use its strengths you would be fine, i think people moanin about rr2 are just usin it as an excuse because they cant keel

naa brokens nailz caus of his spec and his natural high spec points hes quite op in thid and the fact he knows how to play, other than him ive never really had trouble with anyone cept a merc caus there just well pure gay

hi i pop dt everyfight,anytime stun and most of alb realm, 6 relics list goes on mates XD etc

im not against nor with this new change but as blokkie said if it brings more people to thid then i guess it could be a good thing

 

[Brend]

so if you're on 349rps and get 2rps next kill, you're kicked from thid...

from what ive experienced, if your on 349 rps you only get enough rp to take u to the cap( for example you never get 4 rp for a kill if on 347 rp). Taken 5/6 chars to the cap and never managed to go over it even in OF.

ofcourse i may have just been lucky though

 

[Ashton]

Damn, alot to reply to so excuse me if the post turns into a long one with lots of quotes, but thats the best way i know of to be clear with what i want to say...

I appologise for using your name

This isn't why i objected to what u said/say, i would have said the same regardless, so its np.

I have read your posts, u have never done anything to condone the fact that people are abusing the game mechanics

Yeah, whats your point? Thats because i dont believe its wrong to obtain RR2 in thid as im sure u are aware.

I could have easily posted my post with nothing but insults of how crap people who play rr2 toons in thid are......but i tried to be civil

Maybe try reading your first posts again, especially the parts where u say:

''wanna be leet players''
''Good riddens to a bad crowd''
''maybe they're too crap to play on an equal playing field''
''seems like the shite little player who are too incompetent to play with the rest and has to have that little advantage''
''good riddens to you cheep cheaters''

I'd hate to bump into u when you're being uncivil, lol

I'm sorry but until you can clearly justify the need to be RR2 in thid apart from the ego boosting easy kills you get, its not a question of will I, its a question of can i change my stance.

Still u seem not to be understanding me. I respect other peoples opinions, and i'm certainly not trying to get you to change yours. Yes i do disagree with what u are saying but thats your opinion and im fine with that. What i wasn't fine with was the way u said it (which is the only reason i replied to you in the first place)

And regarding ''ego-boosting'' if u knew me, and still thought that then its fine, but u clearly dont know me at all, so please dont assume. Theres much more important things in life than boosting your ego over an online computer game.

...stuff about assasin vs tank...

Was gonna say somethin similar to what blokkie said also. Kalidur u seem to have alot of ideas about how the game is ''meant to be''. To say tanks are meant to beat assasins and casters are meant to beat tanks doesnt make for such a fun game does it? If that were the case with DAoC i'd save my £8 per month and have a few m8s round for a game of scissor, paper, stone. I'm sure the game was designed to give all classes a reasonable chance against each other, which Blokkie suggests is the case here

from what ive experienced, if your on 349 rps you only get enough rp to take u to the cap( for example you never get 4 rp for a kill if on 347 rp). Taken 5/6 chars to the cap and never managed to go over it even in OF.

ofcourse i may have just been lucky though

Yea i think Blokkie's sorted that one m8. I guess i was a little hasty, it seems that even if u got 10rps for a kill at 349rps (most i ever heard about was 7rps from killing a lev 26) it would only take u to 359. As he said u'll still only be 1L4 at this point and thus still be allowed into Thid.

p.s. Hi Blokkie :worthy:

p.p.s Hi Ridz

p.p.p.s Coldbeard, i spoke to Erdna the other day, he said to say hi

 

[RS|Phil]

So deserved these changes.