Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

[DaGaffer]

This says it all to me.

More than 4.5 million people took part in an EU consultation on ending clock changes, the largest-ever number taking part in such a survey by the European commission. Yet 70% of the replies came from just one country, Germany, followed by France, then Austria.

The UK had the lowest level of survey participation, with just 0.02% of the population responding.

Across the EU 84% were in favour of scrapping clock changes, but there were significant national differences. While 93% of Finns and 91% of Poles support the move, Greeks and Cypriots narrowly opposed the plans.

What exactly "does it say to you"? Because what it says to me is that UK Gov is literally happy to keep its people in the dark. It isn't the job of the EU to promote such consultations, it's the job of each member state to do so (because certain countries *cough* would complain about EU interference and money-wasting if they did), and Her Majesty's Government couldn't be arsed to do so even though it affects British citizens post-Brexit. But hey "sovereignty" right?

 

[Scouse]

This says it all to me.

More than 4.5 million people took part in an EU consultation on ending clock changes, the largest-ever number taking part in such a survey by the European commission. Yet 70% of the replies came from just one country, Germany, followed by France, then Austria.

The UK had the lowest level of survey participation, with just 0.02% of the population responding.

Across the EU 84% were in favour of scrapping clock changes, but there were significant national differences. While 93% of Finns and 91% of Poles support the move, Greeks and Cypriots narrowly opposed the plans.

1) I'd absolutely be in favour of clock changes. They're retarded.
2) I'd absolutely have taken part if it was in any way publicised. But our government doesn't seem to think that advertising to the public that they've got a direct say in EU matters would have been useful. That alone tells you an awful lot of how we perceive the EU.


Edit: Dang, hadn't read @DaGaffers post. But what he said. With some added punching racists in the face.

 

[Job]

Yes..obviously they changed the quantities for Britan..because its from the Guard and they hate England.
70% from Germany.
Only 0.02 responded from Britain.

Totally different figures, but all part of their endless agenda to lick the EUs ass.

 

[Wij]

Yes..obviously they changed the quantities for Britan..because its from the Guard and they hate England.
70% from Germany.
Only 0.02 responded from Britain.

Totally different figures, but all part of their endless agenda to lick the EUs ass.

Buh?

 

[Job]

Think about it.

 

[Gwadien]

Buh?

Omg, those letters create the word of the liberal agenda!

 

[DaGaffer]

Yes..obviously they changed the quantities for Britan..because its from the Guard and they hate England.
70% from Germany.
Only 0.02 responded from Britain.

Totally different figures, but all part of their endless agenda to lick the EUs ass.

Who's "they"? What the fuck are you talking about?

 

[Job]

Jesus..do you need help.

They put the german figure as 70% of replies of the total.

But when referring to the British votes they changed it to the percentage of people who voted out of the country..which is obviously a much lower percentage.and a completely different statistic.
That was done by the Guardian to sublimally fit their agenda.

 

[Job]

Here we fucking go..its someone elses fault..scary bogeymen.

Donald Tusk claims anti-European forces meddled in Brexit vote

 

[Gwadien]

Jesus..do you need help.

They put the german figure as 70% of replies of the total.

But when referring to the British votes they changed it to the percentage of people who voted out of the country..which is obviously a much lower percentage.and a completely different statistic.
That was done by the Guardian to sublimally fit their agenda.

So 0.02 of brits outside of the UK voted for it?

 

[DaGaffer]

Jesus..do you need help.

They put the german figure as 70% of replies of the total.

But when referring to the British votes they changed it to the percentage of people who voted out of the country..which is obviously a much lower percentage.and a completely different statistic.
That was done by the Guardian to sublimally fit their agenda.

The Guardian article you don't mention or link to in either of your earlier posts? So "they" is The Guardian, good to know, I thought my mind-reading powers were on the blink.

This says it all to me.

More than 4.5 million people took part in an EU consultation on ending clock changes, the largest-ever number taking part in such a survey by the European commission. Yet 70% of the replies came from just one country, Germany, followed by France, then Austria.

The UK had the lowest level of survey participation, with just 0.02% of the population responding.

Across the EU 84% were in favour of scrapping clock changes, but there were significant national differences. While 93% of Finns and 91% of Poles support the move, Greeks and Cypriots narrowly opposed the plans.

Yes..obviously they changed the quantities for Britan..because its from the Guard and they hate England.
70% from Germany.
Only 0.02 responded from Britain.

Totally different figures, but all part of their endless agenda to lick the EUs ass.

As for the figures jiggery-pokery, it works out at 3.84% of Germans versus 0.02% for Brits, so maybe they should have said 192 times as many Germans as Brits responded? Or maybe they should have said, approx. 13,000 Brits responded versus 3,150,000 Germans? What version of the facts would you prefer @Job? They're all shit from a UKGov perspective, no "liberal agenda" required.

 

[Job]

Well yes, but they still went for omg 70% of Germans voted fake news angle.
Which isnt true if course, but it paints that picture in many readers minds.

As Scouse pointed out, who knew you could vote?
And why such a massive percentage of German votes....it ..as I posted, says a lot about the where the core of the EU is.

In the Fatherland.

 

[Scouse]

LINK please @Job you total fucknut. I find myself not believing your interpretation of "words".

And as I (and @DaGaffer) said - our government should tell us about these votes, but doesn't. Why not?

 

[Job]

So it looks like they are going ahead with the porn filter in April.

Driving licence, passport or corner shop voucher.

I cant even..wtf.
Seriously, going to your local shop to buy a porn pass.
Everyones talking about tor and vpn, but these services arent fast enoough as it is and they are going to fall over on the day.
I guess its basically going to push huge numbers of people towards more dodgy foreign sites that havent signed up and they are even saying that there might be multiple verification methods across the industry.
Who the living fuck is going to hand over their passport to a porn site.

 

[Job]

LINK please @Job you total fucknut. I find myself not believing your interpretation of "words".

And as I (and @DaGaffer) said - our government should tell us about these votes, but doesn't. Why not?

MEPs vote to scrap twice-yearly clock change by 2021

 

[Gwadien]

Lol at your complaining that Brits didn't vote

I'm sure if the Germans reminded us you would have complained.

 

[Scouse]

Yep. As suspecteed. Fake news from @Job - if you understand basic "words" and have a better level of educational achievement than remedial woodwork it's totally clear and not at all misleading:

More than 4.5 million people took part in an EU consultation on ending clock changes, the largest-ever number taking part in such a survey by the European commission. Yet 70% of the replies came from just one country, Germany, followed by France, then Austria.

The UK had the lowest level of survey participation, with just 0.02% of the population responding.

Separate paragraph, percentage of population responding, so completely transparent and in no way underhand. (Not to mention that it's not a fucking competition - so why get het up in the first place?)

The liberal elite conspiracy to generate outrage by making the thick feel thick rolls on....

 

[Scouse]

It's also a great example of the EU trying to do what people want - 84% of respondents want the move - more of those in the north (us included) than the south.

The UK government is against it, and us, though.

Good on you EU. Well done for being a voice of democratic sanity.

 

[DaGaffer]

Well yes, but they still went for omg 70% of Germans voted fake news angle.
Which isnt true if course, but it paints that picture in many readers minds.

As Scouse pointed out, who knew you could vote?
And why such a massive percentage of German votes....it ..as I posted, says a lot about the where the core of the EU is.

In the Fatherland.

They didn't say "70% of Germans voted", who's fake newsing now? As for why Brits didn't know, I answered that. Maybe if you don't read it on Breitbart you get dyslexia or something?

What exactly "does it say to you"? Because what it says to me is that UK Gov is literally happy to keep its people in the dark. It isn't the job of the EU to promote such consultations, it's the job of each member state to do so (because certain countries *cough* would complain about EU interference and money-wasting if they did), and Her Majesty's Government couldn't be arsed to do so even though it affects British citizens post-Brexit. But hey "sovereignty" right?

The reasons why so many Germans responded was because the German (not EU) Government, ran an information campaign (probably at the individual Lande level, that's the way the Germans usually roll), and the British government didn't.

 

[Job]

I said it didnt say that, its just subtle sleight of hand to reinforce an agenda.

 

[Gwadien]

I said it didnt say that, its just subtle sleight of hand to reinforce an agenda.

People that believe that the royal family are reptiles are less crazy than you.

 

[Job]

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It's also a great example of the EU trying to do what people want - 84% of respondents want the move - more of those in the north (us included) than the south.

The UK government is against it, and us, though.

Good on you EU. Well done for being a voice of democratic sanity.

Well Id say its widely supported across the UK, but people dig deeper when they are faced with waves of propaganda.
A bit of paranoia sets in and anything from the EU becomes toxic even when its a good idea.

Which I would argue is their fault, not ours.

 

[Gwadien]

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Well Id say its widely supported across the UK, but people dig deeper when they are faced with waves of propaganda.
A bit of paranoia sets in and anything from the EU becomes toxic even when its a good idea.

Which I would argue is their fault, not ours.

Why would you bother to create propaganda over changing time zone shit?

 

[Job]

Your posts are getting increasingly whoosh.

 

[Scouse]

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Well Id say its widely supported across the UK, but people dig deeper when they are faced with waves of propaganda.
A bit of paranoia sets in and anything from the EU becomes toxic even when its a good idea.

Which I would argue is their fault, not ours.

No - you're paranoid. Nobody else round here is bothered.

And you didn't "dig deeper" (or even read the article you posted properly, as the information was in there, presented clearly) - otherwise you'd have realised that this was eminently sensible and not "toxic".

 

[Job]

Is no one actually reading my posts.

I think it is a good idea but people are viewing the EU generally as toxic.

Well half of us are.

 

[DaGaffer]

Is no one actually reading my posts.

I think it is a good idea but people are viewing the EU generally as toxic.

Well half of us are.

...even when they're not. There's your "says it all" money shot. Most anti-EU sentiment in the UK isn't remotely based on actual facts, as you've just ably demonstrated. And the terrifying thing is we now live in a world where how you feel about a thing carries more weight that what that thing actually is. No wonder remain lost.

 

[Gwadien]

...even when they're not. There's your "says it all" money shot. Most anti-EU sentiment in the UK isn't remotely based on actual facts, as you've just ably demonstrated. And the terrifying thing is we now live in a world where how you feel about a thing carries more weight that what that thing actually is. No wonder remain lost.

You mean like the people that took public money away from the poorest then got buses telling them how much they'll get post brexit?

 

[Scouse]

Yep, @Job - as @DaGaffer has said: You admit that the EU is doing good things but you're so blinded by hate that you can't see that even in your own examples.

Take a good long look at yourself Job. You're clearly running on feelings, not facts.

 

[Job]

There are ample facts to cause you to hold a bad opinion of the EU.

Obviously its all down to your perception of the harm caused, so yes how you interpret it is the key.

Bit when an entity as powerful as the EU starts to exercise that power in a way that starts to resemble and anti identity, pro corporation dictatorship.
Then yes people will be tainted on everything.
And I would add that reacting by perception is now a liberal stronghold