Please Dont ADD ffs!

[Belisar]

lol why bother making a 8man not opted random group
seriously we dont have 2002 anymore, game changed alot and with those groups you are walking rps nothing more nothing less, but that is alot different to stealther adds, cuz it lies in your hands to make a decent group or run out with bullshit setup, while stealthers will always add on you no matter what group you run. But using shit random setup with shit rog players and then complain about ppl who are smarter when it comes to making group setups + ppl who put the effort in getting top toa gear and ML´s is just bullshit deluxe, get a clue seriously

cant even be arsed to get decent template but crys when ppl who arent that lazy pwn him - hypocricy to the max rly

Hhmm seems to me you completely missed the point of Boggy's post. Your commentary is full of holes for many players and suggests you have little care for a large number of players in the game.

He does not cry when his groups meet a fully opted, fully toa'd group - he is not saying that he does.

What he is saying is that people are moaning about adding making fights unfair and many fights are unfair in the first place because a FG fighting PE will not win even with exactly the same set up and equipment - PE have RA's and experience and thatmakes a difference.

Many times unless you are in a fixed or guild group you cannot get balanced groups because the right classes are not available (least in HIb anyway). So your choice is either to go as you are and take the risk or don't run at all.

Sadly it is not as easy as saying why run in an 8 man group which is not opted for all of us. Clearly Boggy and many others of us are not as leet as you and do not have the luxury of being as leet as you.

Making opted groups does not make you smarter than someone who runs without. It may mean you are luckier, it may mean you are more choosy but it does not mean you are smarter.

Personally I would rather run with a random non-opted group of nice peeps than a plonker like you who does not give a stuff about helping people out.

 

[Brite]

again the circle of d00000000000m, dont really know why its always brought up

If FG's sees a soloer they kill it, so it doesn't add, and after all its the enemy
If a soloer sees a FG they add so it doesnt gank them, and after all its the enemy

You will NEVER have an arrangement of FGs not killing soloers, beacuse then there will always be some prick, who will fuck up the arrangement and add on fg fights or even a fg that kills solo.

Most of the problem is not with solos adding on fg fights, its zergs of these so called solo's adding on fg fights, there arnt many soloers left, most people who whine about being killed solo are running with a zerg e.g. jamiesmallicus, always and forever

If you want to solo, you will have to put up with being ganked, thats all part of being solo, no one is forcing you to be solo, if you want solo fights that badly roll a BG charecter or somthing, you get more chance of it there


I myself will most likely always add, depends if im in a good mood or who is fighting if i don't

A FG mows me all night, so be it, i know im going to end up adding on one of there fights later on and totaly destroying there chances of winning

Same with so called soloers, shitty stealth zergers and the like, they want to zerg me, i will always have my revenge


So anyway the problem isn't with the gank groups, or the soloer's, its with the zergs, and whatever you do, you cant control shitty zergers

 

[Takitothemacs]

you got a point there, but i think you also missed mine
i mean ofc can they go RvR with that equip but as they put effort in their pve templates, rvr guilds put effort in getting uber toa´d/MLs/high RR
so if pve ppl come to rvr and complain about those groups cuz they cant kill them is just hypocricy
at the end of the day everyone in daoc just cooks with water, if ppl get tired of getting owned by those opted groups there are 3 things they can do
a) get uber toa/MLs/high RR themself and give them even fights
b) get pissed and go back to pve
c) get pissed and cry like a noob

most choose b) or c) without even considering trying a) :/

you forgot option d) have another drink, get more pissed and go back to get revenge and die again... then resign yourself to adding on the fights you think that will net some RPs

 

[Brite]

its not as if the lower rank guys cant beat the higher rank guys in opted shit, have killed PE in a random group even when we had adds on us, and then another random group flawlessly

and then you recall on real life events

Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City

 

[Takitothemacs]

again the circle of d00000000000m, dont really know why its always brought up

If FG's sees a soloer they kill it, so it doesn't add, and after all its the enemy
If a soloer sees a FG they add so it doesnt gank them, and after all its the enemy

You will NEVER have an arrangement of FGs not killing soloers, beacuse then there will always be some prick, who will fuck up the arrangement and add on fg fights or even a fg that kills solo.

Most of the problem is not with solos adding on fg fights, its zergs of these so called solo's adding on fg fights, there arnt many soloers left, most people who whine about being killed solo are running with a zerg e.g. jamiesmallicus, always and forever

If you want to solo, you will have to put up with being ganked, thats all part of being solo, no one is forcing you to be solo, if you want solo fights that badly roll a BG charecter or somthing, you get more chance of it there


I myself will most likely always add, depends if im in a good mood or who is fighting if i don't

A FG mows me all night, so be it, i know im going to end up adding on one of there fights later on and totaly destroying there chances of winning

Same with so called soloers, shitty stealth zergers and the like, they want to zerg me, i will always have my revenge


So anyway the problem isn't with the gank groups, or the soloer's, its with the zergs, and whatever you do, you cant control shitty zergers

.... must resist....



.... cant help it...



I agree with Brite...



damn it.... :touch:

 

[Silverbirch]

It's kinda like saying an 8 man squad of commandos would be a fair fight against 8 cavemen with stone clubs.

Like the analogy there Peat, so I got one of my own.

I think both solo'ers and 8v8 have this attitude abit like fighter pilots in WW1. (If you ever watched the movie Aces High) It's like their own little personal duels sat high in the sky in their Sopwiths and Fokkes, mean while below them theres millions dieing in the mud and blood i.e the zerg. But if they see a few Jerry's wandering along a road they'd be quite happy to drop grenades on them no doubt

War is dirty and messy and without etiquette, you do what you need to win.

 

[daoc_xianghua]

Hhmm seems to me you completely missed the point of Boggy's post. Your commentary is full of holes for many players and suggests you have little care for a large number of players in the game.

He does not cry when his groups meet a fully opted, fully toa'd group - he is not saying that he does.

What he is saying is that people are moaning about adding making fights unfair and many fights are unfair in the first place because a FG fighting PE will not win even with exactly the same set up and equipment - PE have RA's and experience and thatmakes a difference.

Many times unless you are in a fixed or guild group you cannot get balanced groups because the right classes are not available (least in HIb anyway). So your choice is either to go as you are and take the risk or don't run at all.

Sadly it is not as easy as saying why run in an 8 man group which is not opted for all of us. Clearly Boggy and many others of us are not as leet as you and do not have the luxury of being as leet as you.

Making opted groups does not make you smarter than someone who runs without. It may mean you are luckier, it may mean you are more choosy but it does not mean you are smarter.

Personally I would rather run with a random non-opted group of nice peeps than a plonker like you who does not give a stuff about helping people out.

ok then he blames PE/mael/eclipse for playing better? interesting
expierience is not a matter of fairness, and RA´s are a result of expierience so that one dont count at all, you cant blame ppl for beeing better than u lol

well i´m in fixed guild group but we hardly dont play at all atm and prolly wont have full set group till cluster either and still if i want to rvr i can either find a group with decent classes/players or if i cant i just dont rvr or run in duo or small not opted group with ppl i like, but i dont come here and complain about evul fotm guilds killing me cuz i know that i will get owned in mini group when we meet a half-decent fg.
ow and btw what makes me leet when i try to run in well balanced groups instead of giving free rps to enemys and cry on FH after?

 

[Roadie]

the ppl who whine about adding but dont give a second thought to killing a soloer care more about having a good fight.

The adding bit it just the main way whats perceved as a good fight is ruined, most groups wont add on a 1:1 fight but will kill a soloer if they run into clip.

 

[Downanael]

Leave the soloers/duo alive and they add on next change they get for sure.

 

[Illtar]

SO you are suggesting that 8 vs 1 is a good fight?

 

[Belisar]

ok then he blames PE/mael/eclipse for playing better? interesting
expierience is not a matter of fairness, and RA´s are a result of expierience so that one dont count at all, you cant blame ppl for beeing better than u lol

well i´m in fixed guild group but we hardly dont play at all atm and prolly wont have full set group till cluster either and still if i want to rvr i can either find a group with decent classes/players or if i cant i just dont rvr or run in duo or small not opted group with ppl i like, but i dont come here and complain about evul fotm guilds killing me cuz i know that i will get owned in mini group when we meet a half-decent fg.
ow and btw what makes me leet when i try to run in well balanced groups instead of giving free rps to enemys and cry on FH after?

Not sure he is blaming then for being better - I run with him a lot and we regard them as being better but they remain a target to be shot at. If we seem them we will treat them the same as everyone else, no running no hiding and no crying.

As I said before - his comment merely reflects the point that peeps who don't like adding say they want a fair fight but diferent people have different views or different degrees of fairness.

Your previous comment indicated that people who run in opted groups are smarter. My view is that smartness has nothing to do with it - we all know what a opted group looks like (we may disagree on the odd class but in general I suspect all our views will be the same). Some of us just do not always have the choice of set up but want to run anyway because we enjoy it.

As for qq-ing here about it - I do agree if you choose to run that way then you cannot come here and moan - but he is not moaning.

 

[AngelHeal]

SO you are suggesting that 8 vs 1 is a good fight?

SO, you are suggesting that ur brains are not in ur head??

READ!

MIDGARD ALBION AND HIBERNIA ARE IN WAR!! ENEMYS!!!
they are suposed to kill eachother, no matter in what way....

If albion takes on a zerg of 600 (hey herbal xDD) and kill 1 hib, /victory for the albs and yes yes, maybe not many rps , but it aint all about the realmpoints hun.

The higher number you are, the safer you are.
There are allot of people un-toa'ed in the frontiers, you really think they don't know that they can;t handle a rr10 NS? instead they group.. so they have a chance... they rather baet up the NS with many and get few rp's then that he dies... ;x

I usually solo / or duo with peppa (sumtimes with lundqvist..) if we see a solo, we dont give shit about he beeing solo, he is a walking realmpoint bag, and a enemy.. If we don't kill him, and we get in a 2vs 2 fight... he will most likely add..

If I'am in a FG vs a FG, we look if the allied group is winning, if not.. we usually add...


we are enemy's in game we don't care what 1 guy say's about some1 adding...... i have never, but i mean NEVER saw 1 fg vs fg fight withouth seeing arrows flying into the area..

But thats daoc(WAR), live with it, or simply quit and stop bothering us with these stupid threads..



(I sometimes wonder if you guy's even know where the game story is about.)

 

[daoc_xianghua]

SO, you are suggesting that ur brains are not in ur head??

READ!

MIDGARD ALBION AND HIBERNIA ARE IN WAR!! ENEMYS!!!
they are suposed to kill eachother, no matter in what way....

If albion takes on a zerg of 600 (hey herbal xDD) and kill 1 hib, /victory for the albs and yes yes, maybe not many rps , but it aint all about the realmpoints hun.

The higher number you are, the safer you are.
There are allot of people un-toa'ed in the frontiers, you really think they don't know that they can;t handle a rr10 NS? instead they group.. so they have a chance... they rather baet up the NS with many and get few rp's then that he dies... ;x

I usually solo / or duo with peppa (sumtimes with lundqvist..) if we see a solo, we dont give shit about he beeing solo, he is a walking realmpoint bag, and a enemy.. If we don't kill him, and we get in a 2vs 2 fight... he will most likely add..

If I'am in a FG vs a FG, we look if the allied group is winning, if not.. we usually add...


we are enemy's in game we don't care what 1 guy say's about some1 adding...... i have never, but i mean NEVER saw 1 fg vs fg fight withouth seeing arrows flying into the area..

But thats daoc(WAR), live with it, or simply quit and stop bothering us with these stupid threads..



(I sometimes wonder if you guy's even know where the game story is about.)

seriously if that is your honest opinion and not just a bad try to be funny
then you are either a roleplayer or just a complete idiot (sry to all the idiots out there hope you dont feel insulted now)

FFS WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND STORY?

see it from this pov
we all play the game

we all pay for the game

zerging/adding fucks it up for a hell of alot of ppl

if your only aim in the game is to go ahead with the background story then pls go play EQ2, do us this favour there you can only annoy mobs with your retarded view of things

sry if i sound a bit rude but this bullshit you posted rly takes the piss

 

[Gahn]

ok then he blames PE/mael/eclipse for playing better? interesting
expierience is not a matter of fairness, and RA´s are a result of expierience so that one dont count at all, you cant blame ppl for beeing better than u lol

well i´m in fixed guild group but we hardly dont play at all atm and prolly wont have full set group till cluster either and still if i want to rvr i can either find a group with decent classes/players or if i cant i just dont rvr or run in duo or small not opted group with ppl i like, but i dont come here and complain about evul fotm guilds killing me cuz i know that i will get owned in mini group when we meet a half-decent fg.
ow and btw what makes me leet when i try to run in well balanced groups instead of giving free rps to enemys and cry on FH after?

Err he didn't whined m8, he was just pointing that, since he can't/won't/don't bother get a full opted group up and running but he wants to RVR anyway, he will add and give a fuck about non adding rules?
Or did i understand it wrong?
And ofc not that for opted groups an avg rr5 group adding will disrput anything.
Concerning zergs: i honestly NEVER got it what's the deal if u want to clear zergs u can do it with 2-3 opted fgs running togheter 30 mins, dealt with, every1 back with his own business.

 

[AngelHeal]

seriously if that is your honest opinion and not just a bad try to be funny
then you are either a roleplayer or just a complete idiot (sry to all the idiots out there hope you dont feel insulted now)

FFS WHO GIVES A FLYING FUCK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND STORY?

see it from this pov
we all play the game

we all pay for the game

zerging/adding fucks it up for a hell of alot of ppl

if your only aim in the game is to go ahead with the background story then pls go play EQ2, do us this favour there you can only annoy mobs with your retarded view of things

sry if i sound a bit rude but this bullshit you posted rly takes the piss

well i do... and maybe u thinks it retarded?
ILL ADD ON EVERYFIGHT unless the allied person doesnt want to..
.. ½ the forum say its retarded... but they all do it..

 

[Himse]

QQ

its realm versus realm...

says it all :< bigsoz the idea is if you see and enemy you kill it!

 

[Thadius]

QQ

its realm versus realm...

says it all :< bigsoz the idea is if you see and enemy you kill it!

Unless its Brite or Trollum then you emote spam hugs on them!

 

[Dandare]

its not as if the lower rank guys cant beat the higher rank guys in opted shit, have killed PE in a random group even when we had adds on us, and then another random group flawlessly

and then you recall on real life events

Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City
Oldham Athletic 1 - 0 Manchester City

lmao doh you just reminded me of my worsttime ever at Maine Road Huddersfield 1 Man City 10

 

[Boggy]

As for the commandos vs cavemen senario this is somewhat different as the cavemens have access to all the same things the commandos have, they just 'choose' not to utilise it. (ie. choose meaning whatever reason ('excuse') they aren't fully toa'd, running in an opted group, having a reasonable amount of rvr experience, or whatever else, yet (most often lack of dedication/addiction or real life time limits (not that even someone just playing 2-3hours a week shouldn't have been able to toa at least 1 char yet, but you know...).)

Cavemen always had access to the same equipment as commandos. The laws of physics haven't changed. This is not being facetious. My point is that what seems simple to one person may be impenetrable to another, and it doesn't necessarily mean the latter is stupid, just that he's starting from a different place.

Either way, it's plain to see that SOME people in the frontier are not opted, not ToA'd and often missing key classes from their groups. Those people have as much right to be in the frontier as everyone else and if they wanna add to try to make the fight fairer, I can't see any problem.

Regardless then back on the issue, while I understand the point I personally think it's quite different seeing as the imposed limit of members in a group is 8, no less no more, speed (without ctr anyway) only affects the members of the speeders group, a clear indication of the point that groups are not meant to be larger than 8, if someone runs with less than 8 people in their group, however, that is their own fault for not using the full space in their group - so to speak.

Extending this logic, we could say that since adding is posssible within the game mechanics, it is the way the game is meant to be played.

It would be relatively simple (conceptually) to create a "Comabt Unit" container for people, like a BG, that prevented combat with combat units of different sizes or people not in a combat unit (or siege pieces, for obvious reasons). Mythic haven't gone this route, presumably because they don't support the "no adding" style of play.

 

[Boggy]

lol why bother making a 8man not opted random group
seriously we dont have 2002 anymore, game changed alot and with those groups you are walking rps nothing more nothing less, but that is alot different to stealther adds, cuz it lies in your hands to make a decent group or run out with bullshit setup, while stealthers will always add on you no matter what group you run. But using shit random setup with shit rog players and then complain about ppl who are smarter when it comes to making group setups + ppl who put the effort in getting top toa gear and ML´s is just bullshit deluxe, get a clue seriously

cant even be arsed to get decent template but crys when ppl who arent that lazy pwn him - hypocricy to the max rly

From you perspective I run with a shit random group and am more or less walking RPs for some gank groups.

From my perspective, I value people over RPs. The realm does not naturally balance itself in terms of classes people choose to play, and therefore to opt a group you have to exclude people. I don't like to do so. I am quite happy to lose a few extra fights and see some guy have a nice afternoon of RvRing in a group instead of being solo, even though - GASP - he plays a class that doesn't fit an opted set up.

And if groups like PE and Mael DO have a problem with me taking 2 groups against them to balance the odds (I don't think they do since they've never complained and still beat us most of the time) then that is their problem for trying to artificially impose rules on the game that don't exist.

It's just a different approach to the game. You can be insulting about it if you like, but that says more about you than me.

 

[Kanim]

From you perspective I run with a shit random group and am more or less walking RPs for some gank groups.

From my perspective, I value people over RPs. The realm does not naturally balance itself in terms of classes people choose to play, and therefore to opt a group you have to exclude people. I don't like to do so. I am quite happy to lose a few extra fights and see some guy have a nice afternoon of RvRing in a group instead of being solo, even though - GASP - he plays a class that doesn't fit an opted set up.

And if groups like PE and Mael DO have a problem with me taking 2 groups against them to balance the odds (I don't think they do since they've never complained and still beat us most of the time) then that is their problem for trying to artificially impose rules on the game that don't exist.

It's just a different approach to the game. You can be insulting about it if you like, but that says more about you than me.

2fg running on stick is certainly a lot better than getting everyone in the zone into a bg and running 4-5fgs on stick, with 2fg of 'randoms' you probably stand a chance of killing the best ggs rather than just being rp fodder for them. Atleast you take people out to roam rather than camping bridges and this deserves a lot of credit imo.

 

[Ozilia]

http://www.guildwars.com

Everyone have the same armor, most have the same weapons. All characters have 100+ skills but can only bring 8 to every fight. Who wins comes down to the team that choose good skills that works good together, and TEAMPLAY. All pvp is instanced so you always fight 8vs8 (or more teams on certain maps).

I mean I love daoc, but like you say you will never have "fair" fights here.. ppl adding/zerging/big differences with toa/rr and so on. If you want "fair" fights you should play guildwars imo.

 

[rvn]

most of the "good" groups, that QQ the most about adds, roam where all the random zerg is (ie if mid has berk, alb beno, hibb surs (or whatever its called)) the random zerg usually is on the NE side of the river (this is the case on prydwen too the few times ive played, zerg is allways between berk and the beno bridge..

this is where some GG's think they can have a free zone of killing soloers, gimped random groups and whatever, and then when they have been there for 2hours, and you steamroll them because you get tired of them only hanging out at that place they qq like fuck and logg ofcourse..

in short, people that prefer fg vs fg should roam away from the zerg. (not sure common this is on pryd tho)

 

[rvn]

http://www.guildwars.com

Everyone have the same armor, most have the same weapons. All characters have 100+ skills but can only bring 8 to every fight. Who wins comes down to the team that choose good skills that works good together, and TEAMPLAY. All pvp is instanced so you always fight 8vs8 (or more teams on certain maps).

I mean I love daoc, but like you say you will never have "fair" fights here.. ppl adding/zerging/big differences with toa/rr and so on. If you want "fair" fights you should play guildwars imo.

guilwars is pretty dull, if you really want fair fights and such fps is the only way to go imo =P

 

[rvn]

oh and wtf do people expect of scouts/soloers/duoers/gimp fg's, that they run around just to be farmed for fun?, ofcourse they will add when they have been steamrolled for the 5th time in a row by a guild grp, and there is no reason to bitch about it, infact there is no reason to _ever_ bitch.


stealther adds should be rare, unless you roam in a place where they have something to fight (ie you are farming random soloers or whatever...)

 

[rvn]

lol why bother making a 8man not opted random group
seriously we dont have 2002 anymore, game changed alot and with those groups you are walking rps nothing more nothing less, but that is alot different to stealther adds, cuz it lies in your hands to make a decent group or run out with bullshit setup, while stealthers will always add on you no matter what group you run. But using shit random setup with shit rog players and then complain about ppl who are smarter when it comes to making group setups + ppl who put the effort in getting top toa gear and ML´s is just bullshit deluxe, get a clue seriously

cant even be arsed to get decent template but crys when ppl who arent that lazy pwn him - hypocricy to the max rly

in my experience, most randoms ive steamrolled they havent qq:ed to me, they have simply zerged me as this is their most effective way of killing me and my group

 

[Edlina]

Cavemen always had access to the same equipment as commandos. The laws of physics haven't changed. This is not being facetious. My point is that what seems simple to one person may be impenetrable to another, and it doesn't necessarily mean the latter is stupid, just that he's starting from a different place.

Either way, it's plain to see that SOME people in the frontier are not opted, not ToA'd and often missing key classes from their groups. Those people have as much right to be in the frontier as everyone else and if they wanna add to try to make the fight fairer, I can't see any problem.



Extending this logic, we could say that since adding is posssible within the game mechanics, it is the way the game is meant to be played.

It would be relatively simple (conceptually) to create a "Comabt Unit" container for people, like a BG, that prevented combat with combat units of different sizes or people not in a combat unit (or siege pieces, for obvious reasons). Mythic haven't gone this route, presumably because they don't support the "no adding" style of play.

Uhh, yes, I kinda said all your points in my post...

Just like I also said that the vast majority of add whines aren't pointed at the pug's but the opted ones, and that only very few ppl expect pug's to run 8vs8 vs guild groups... So you're pretty much just making the same points I did?

Oh, and no, cavemen didn't have access to the equipment commados do in the same way everyone in daoc have access to toa equipment and mls...

 

[Deepflame]

A no adding rule would be the same kind of idiot invention by the elitist RvRers like "Insta-RvR" is. It ruins the game for anyone not elitist. And it lets the hibbies steal our relics.

And at any rate, not everyone reads FH, most people would be unaware of such a rule. And atleast half of those that are will go on saying they don't. And the other half will 'forget' about the rule when it's convenient. So it's a waste of time and effort to try and promote a no-adding system.

You are better off organizing an area to FG vs FG in with the other elitists, as then you get your battle of the e-peen away from the random guys trying to kill other random guys. And also away from the Beno Bridge Defense Force.

 

[brad]

I just look forward with my next fight with teh alb or hib zerg.

Just try to count how long i survive )))))))))

Soloers for everrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!

( cba to whine anymore, maybe another day i will give it ago )

: :touch:

 

[Adianna]

It's a game, not rl war, some ppl acually like "fair play" with no adding where both parts have a chance to win.

some ppl RvR for fun, not for Arthur the mighty king of albion !! :touch:

So the RR10 inf kicking the RR3 shade is fair... The RR10 FG fully TOA'ed ganking a RR2-3 group without artis etc. is fair... The RR10 FG jumping a solo RR5 Champ is fair...

Wake up. There isn't anyone playing fair. If it would be fair, almost no one would fight against someone else.