Please Dont ADD ffs!

[Tesla Monkor]

if you were only half as expierienced in RPG games as you say you wouldnt see daoc as an RPG for even 1 sec

it has more from quake than from AD&D tbh (for example)

only difference to quake = you use swords n stuff instead of guns
and you have a higher tactical potential than in quake since you dont have dmg (guns in quake) only

what does it have from roleplaying games? ... hmm character classes...mhhh oh right ye the dices.....attributes... lots of numbers actually
if that is roleplay for u, then u you rly got something terrible wrong

You've blinded yourself to most of the game by looking at it like that. RvR is part of DAoC, sure, but not the largest part - nor does it draw the most players (shoch, horror). All three worlds, all the PvE, the backstories, quests, items, and many of the classes are all part of the 'reality' inside DAOC.

Ripping all of that away and claiming DAoC is nothing more than a mediaeval version of Quake is really sad. There is a whole lot more to the game than arpees.

Ps. Just because people aren't able to write eloquent replies doesn't mean they are wrong and you are right. (In case you hadn't noticed.)

 

[Sharkith]

if you were only half as expierienced in RPG games as you say you wouldnt see daoc as an RPG for even 1 sec

it has more from quake than from AD&D tbh (for example)

only difference to quake = you use swords n stuff instead of guns
and you have a higher tactical potential than in quake since you dont have dmg (guns in quake) only

what does it have from roleplaying games? ... hmm character classes...mhhh oh right ye the dices.....attributes... lots of numbers actually
if that is roleplay for u, then u you rly got something terrible wrong

I think you are seriously beginning to talk through your arse. Roleplaying is not always about dice and character sheets. It is something you can do at the pub with a novel even.

The game books are only themes for the interaction - they are the medium. DaoC is another medium which some can use to roleplay through. The fact that you haven't grasped the most basic thing about roleplaying indicates that you should probably avoid commenting fruther on the topic. Let me turn it around on you so I can really start to have fun.

Roleplayers call dickheads like you Munchkins. Do you know what a Munchkin is? Is it the sad wanker who sits in the corner with his freshly sharpened pencil reading the rules and claiming he is l33t and has an uber character. he argues with the GM and other players about the interpretation of the rules because the wanker belives he is there to win. He disses others for not being cool and saying things that don't fit the medium of the game.

Most roleplayers avoid Munchkins. You my friend are a munckin roleplayer the only difference is you do it in the medium of an online MMPORG....

 

[daoc_xianghua]

I do what i can to help, normally that mains taking out other realm adds, i dont go, ooo target shoot, i do try to position myself and calulate the situation, then after that if i have decided to join in its another five seconds before i can actually have any effect and thats assuming the situation hasnt changed.
i dont add for the sake of adding.

Again your just showing your ignorance, people play this game for differant reasons and in differant ways, just because their view are differant doesnt make you right or give you the right to insult people.

Whats this 'ppl like u' ? or has suddenly everyone been pigeonholed?
Now for the interesting part <grin> what can i say ive done from my time in this game????
Well the main thing is have fun, surely thats the aim of a game isnt it.
On top of that ive also organised several pubmeets and met up with a load of other players.
Run a guild and participated in numerous adventures both in game and in our forum.
Helped unite the realm and allow everyone the chance to get involved in frontier action.
Led the first successful prydwen relic raid after NF.
Got a ranger to RR6 mostly solo and unbuffed.
Run lots of raids to help our fellow ream mates.
Ripped holes in verious peoples thoughtless posts.
But ill repeat the main thing ive done is had fun, but people will get enjoyment from differant things, if you cant understand that then i pity you.

<Waves> thats all for now, have fun out there.

you seriously picked wrong game... but whatevah i shot this now since you are obviesly not old enuff to read proper yet else you would have atleast made up counter-points to mine instead of repating urself over and over with this useless RPG in a PC game attitude /puke bye

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

you seriously picked wrong game... but whatevah i shot this now since you are obviesly not old enuff to read proper yet else you would have atleast made up counter-points to mine instead of repating urself over and over with this useless RPG in a PC game attitude /puke bye

What ever
obviously
enough
repeating
yourself


sorry.. just had to lower myself to your level..

 

[Luz]

I cry when people like daoc_xianghua come along and start ranting pointless letters and words(well some were words)...

Let me ask you a few things.

1. Do you think the majority dont like adding? Why then does the majority add?
2. Do you think your way is better then everyone elses?
3. Do you think you are better then everyone else?
4. Do you think the amount of RP or your Realmrank is what shows your progress ingame?
5. For the love of good cheese and holy horses... ARE YOU SERIOUS?

 

[Quinlan]

you seriously picked wrong game... but whatevah i shot this now since you are obviesly not old enuff to read proper yet else you would have atleast made up counter-points to mine instead of repating urself over and over with this useless RPG in a PC game attitude /puke bye

You cant be serious that you dont have a clue who you are talking about..Xian maybe in the future you will be able to see beyond your own limited universe..till then

[03:56 PM] Aran_Thule: bah i have to log now, Shark have fun on the FH add thread while im gone <grin> cant beleave someone tried pulling the 'im high RR, what have you done with your time apart from zerg' line on me

 

[Dorin]

just
fucking
kill

everyone !?!

I never ever liked being zerged to fuck by alb/excal CG back in those days, but i happy farmed bucketloads of em whenever i had the chance to do so. Seemed fair to me (ofc i QQ_ed in grp chat bout being steamrolled for the 5th+ time in the heat of the moment, but the so called "fair players" doing the same were a tad bit more annoying)

If you been on both sides (solo_duo and fg) you will see there is almost zero difference between em, both cries out loud and both takes every opportunity to kill you, whenever however....

if ya want fair fights go and play chess with clock involved, you need to be smart and fast there ><

or arrange fights and shut the fuck up already, the number of idiots crying and getting pissed over being outskilled is annoying. Especially the opted grps that run around zergy areas act like that it wasnt predictable that they gonna get zerged.... oh cmon,,, keep it to grp chat / guild chat but after you are calmed down think it over, would spare FH_Space. uke:

oh well nocare, i wont give a ****... this is a game for me so i will do whatever i want (ahehoiehza xD etc)

There will be only a few expections though, as always :-O

 

[bebopbo]

ok after reading through the many replys (which started off flame free i might add \o/ ) Ive come to the conclusion...

Add or be Added!
Zerg or be Zerged!
Leech or be Leeched!

DAoC will be a better game for all!

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

Xiang has become quite quiet

 

[Killerbee]

100. (Topic hasn't got more sense than my post tbh)

 

[Zede]

if you were only half as expierienced in RPG games as you say you wouldnt see daoc as an RPG for even 1 sec

it has more from quake than from AD&D tbh (for example)

only difference to quake = you use swords n stuff instead of guns
and you have a higher tactical potential than in quake since you dont have dmg (guns in quake) only

what does it have from roleplaying games? ... hmm character classes...mhhh oh right ye the dices.....attributes... lots of numbers actually
if that is roleplay for u, then u you rly got something terrible wrong

Having played AD&D & others since the early 80s, computer RPGs since they existed, and mmorpgs since they began, I can joyfully inform you Dark Age of Camelot is a Role Playing Game, wtf are you on about ?

 

[Belisar]

where is the point in making balanced groups if the group with most adds will always win? Your attidude actually shows that you have zero respect for your enemys.

Ppl who look at daoc and see a RPG actually have no fuckin clue what RPGing is about, my guess is that 90% of you havent even played a real RPG yet, and btw i dont mean computer games.

now if we keep the RPG attitude out and see what your playstyle leads too, we clearly see that your attidude fucks the fun part for alot of ppl, maybe not for all since there are some 12 year olds playing this game too who cant compete with a mature player so they have to rely on zerg.

i cant rly get annoyed @ ppl like u, its just i think you waste so much time in your life with achieving nothing that i almost feel sry for u. ofc are high rps nothing to be proud of irl but atleast i can say i have done something myself in the time i wasted on the game. what can ppl like you say? ..

seriously m8 i would rather do something productive irl than wasting my time on a game where i achieved nothing

Sad to see you have yet again resorted to insults and un-intelligent rambling in order to make a point.

You want people to respect your play style but do not respect theirs. This is a shame because quite clearly the two styles do not mix.

What those of us who are less bothered about adding cannot do is ask you before we add. We cannot search every toon in the fight to see if you are on the list of don't add meights.

You seem to be back on this balanced groups garbage - if I am in an opted, toa'd group and I come up against Maelstrom it is not a balanced fight. Balanced means both sides have an even chance of winning and in that scenario the odds are heavily in Mael's favour. I am sure they would not stop and say oh look it is a weak group let's leave them, the same as my group would not say say oh look it's Mael lets not fight. It's a game, we meet we fight we win or we die.

Balanced fights are a matter of opinion and clearly your opinion is different from a number of other posters here.

DAOC is not a role playing game ??? Sorry to use your own words but you really do not have a clue what roleplaying is all about. You are wrong pure and simple, because DAOC can be a roleplaying game for those who want to play it that way. You are moaning about wanting people to appreciate your playstyle when clearly you have trouble appreciating that roleplaying is also a playstyle.

You comment about zergers being immature actually shows more about your maturity (or lack of it) than theirs.

What have you done for yourself in game - oohh got rps - but you also seem to have had no fun because all you can do is insult everyone else. I and a number of others play for fun, win lose or draw (can you draw in RvR ?) If all you want is rps to prove you are so good then I wish you luck, I would rather have my friends and happy memories tbh - they are worth a lot more.

You suggest that the non-adding contingent are great in number and outweigh those who are less than bothered by it. Not sure where you got that impression, cannot see many people posting to support you.

You know I actually think this is a practical joke. I really cannot believe that anyone could actually believe what you are posting to be true. I cannot believe that the arguments and insults are really meant - so I have to hand it to you - you have fooled us all.

And just in case I am wrong and you are serious (please say you are not) tbh you best go look for another game cos I reckon anyone reading this will now be going out of their way to add on any fights you are in. Insults are a sure way to lose.

 

[daoc_xianghua]

Sad to see you have yet again resorted to insults and un-intelligent rambling in order to make a point.

You want people to respect your play style but do not respect theirs. This is a shame because quite clearly the two styles do not mix.

What those of us who are less bothered about adding cannot do is ask you before we add. We cannot search every toon in the fight to see if you are on the list of don't add meights.

You seem to be back on this balanced groups garbage - if I am in an opted, toa'd group and I come up against Maelstrom it is not a balanced fight. Balanced means both sides have an even chance of winning and in that scenario the odds are heavily in Mael's favour. I am sure they would not stop and say oh look it is a weak group let's leave them, the same as my group would not say say oh look it's Mael lets not fight. It's a game, we meet we fight we win or we die.

Balanced fights are a matter of opinion and clearly your opinion is different from a number of other posters here.

DAOC is not a role playing game ??? Sorry to use your own words but you really do not have a clue what roleplaying is all about. You are wrong pure and simple, because DAOC can be a roleplaying game for those who want to play it that way. You are moaning about wanting people to appreciate your playstyle when clearly you have trouble appreciating that roleplaying is also a playstyle.

You comment about zergers being immature actually shows more about your maturity (or lack of it) than theirs.

What have you done for yourself in game - oohh got rps - but you also seem to have had no fun because all you can do is insult everyone else. I and a number of others play for fun, win lose or draw (can you draw in RvR ?) If all you want is rps to prove you are so good then I wish you luck, I would rather have my friends and happy memories tbh - they are worth a lot more.

You suggest that the non-adding contingent are great in number and outweigh those who are less than bothered by it. Not sure where you got that impression, cannot see many people posting to support you.

You know I actually think this is a practical joke. I really cannot believe that anyone could actually believe what you are posting to be true. I cannot believe that the arguments and insults are really meant - so I have to hand it to you - you have fooled us all.

And just in case I am wrong and you are serious (please say you are not) tbh you best go look for another game cos I reckon anyone reading this will now be going out of their way to add on any fights you are in. Insults are a sure way to lose.

ok nice post, some true words in it
first of all my first insult was indeed a try to poke some1 cuz i got bored of servers beeing down and sitting on my ass doing nothing

BUT

calling me ignorant kinda made me go frenzy, cuz seriously i have nothing against roleplayers basically aslong as they dont fuck up my day 24/7
i was trying to solo some with my vamp for 1 week everyday and i think i found 5 or 6 pure solo fights, rest was assasin duo´s, trio´s, zerg + the usual 1,2,3,4,5,lots archer adds, got zerged by fg´s a few times too but that i dont mind since its my own fault due wrong positioning etc

I just wanna know what is so fun to zerg a soloer with like 4+ stealthers over and over? Is it fun? Is it a challenge? seriously i just want an answer that isnt like: I´m fighting for my realm blah.

and ofc you can achieve something in game that isnt in RvR, i have great respect for great PvE leaders like Usp who has lead successfull PvE raids since ages.

what i dont like is when ppl come to RvR with this roleplay attitude, make RvR alot worse for those ppl who take RvR as the most serious part of the game(they might be fewer but they still exist) and call me ignorant at the end
Roleplaying is np if you do it at the right places =)

 

[fettoken]

If a FG fighting FG and im playing duo with someone (whic i always do, never play Fg:s) of course i add. I didnt pay for this game just to let someone else get rps. If i see someone fighting 1 vs 1 i almost never interfere, only if he / she shouts for help.

 

[Tesla Monkor]

If you see me meleeing anyone - for godsakes, DO ADD. I'll more than likely need it, and if I don't, I don't mind sharing the rps. The important part is that we rip that hib/alb to ribbons. Preferably without me dying in the process.

Help me out with my fights and I'll help you out with yours. (And yes, I completely suck at melee. We can't all be keyboardwizards with sublight reactionspeeds.

 

[Vladamir]

If you see me meleeing anyone - for godsakes, DO ADD. I'll more than likely need it, and if I don't, I don't mind sharing the rps. The important part is that we rip that hib/alb to ribbons. Preferably without me dying in the process.

Help me out with my fights and I'll help you out with yours. (And yes, I completely suck at melee. We can't all be keyboardwizards with sublight reactionspeeds.

That why Amphy started attacking me while i handed you your arse?

 

[Adianna]

win lose or draw (can you draw in RvR ?)

Yep. If all participants are dead I'd call it a draw. Besides different RP gains both then have an equivalent state.

 

[Boggy]

what i dont like is when ppl come to RvR with this roleplay attitude, make RvR alot worse for those ppl who take RvR as the most serious part of the game(they might be fewer but they still exist) and call me ignorant at the end
Roleplaying is np if you do it at the right places =)

The point that you're missing is that the world does not revolve around you. Believe it or not, there are people who log in and don't immediately ask themselves "Would some bloke I never met approve of me going and rvring"

People play the game different ways. It's a shared environment, so the constructive response is to find ways of living with it. If you can't find a way to be content in the shared world, the mature response is to find a different passtime.

The response chosen by so many, which is to try to impose arbitrary and artificial rules that suit your own preferences and constantly insult those who don't follow them shows a lack of emotional maturity (because you are essentially stamping your foot and making demands) and a certain amount of foolishness (because your attempts are clearly futile and if you couldn't have guessed that the years of not achieving your aim should have told you by now).

 

[SkarIronfist]

Help me out with my fights and I'll help you out with yours. (And yes, I completely suck at melee. We can't all be keyboardwizards with sublight reactionspeeds.

Its true Tesla needs alot of help

 

[Shike]

face one or two groups and start a fight, halfway we can either loose or win, 3 FG adds in and run us over...

Now I ask myself, was that fun? For anyone at all?

For us, no, deffo no, since we lost due to one single thing, numbers. Not because we played bad, or met enemys that was a ton better than us, numbers killed us and nothing else.

For the 1-2 groups we had a fun fight going against, we are killing off each others and someone woulda won in the end, their fun ended too. We play RVR to kill each others, but tbh, hand on the heart, what is more fun, to have a really good fight that goes on for a couple of minutes that actually requires one to use the character? or one that ends within 10seconds..

I mean, why play a druid, if you never really heal anything, since nobody get so damaged that they actually need a heal? Why play a tank if you have 30 casters along blasting that full group to bits in 10s or less? etc etc..

I do understand if random groups run in FG+ up to 2FG or so, to stand a chanse vs the good guildgroups out there, otherwise they get waporized in very short time normally and I dont cry about those that do so, dont think I ever do tbh, sure in the heat of the moment when we get jumped by 2FGs and die I say something in my /g or /gu but thats about it, life goes on..

What I dont like is when we have a good fight going vs some enemys and it is a fair fight, be it some guildgroup or FG+ randoms, aslong as its somewhat fair odds, and yet another full group or often more comes running right into it and just run us over, adding for the sake of adding and RPgreed (our enemys didnt really need help to stand a decent chanse remember) and ruin both our fun, and ultimately their own realmmates fun... sure, from a roleplaying point of view, it is right to hunt down and kill enemys, all the time, but, roleplaying is also supposed to be fun aswell, it defeats its purpose if you take the roleplaying to the maximum without ever considering the consequenses of it, namely killing the fun for others, that aint really roleplaying in my eyes, that is just pure egocentric behaviour done only for the sake of proving some sort of point, can be alot of different points but the summary is still the same nomatter how you twist it.

In AD&D for example, would it be fun to run around with a highlvl paladin, and kill lowlvlmonsters?

In DAoC, is it fun to run around and kill greycon mobs?

In DAoC, is it fun to run around and win everything, due to pure numbers and nothing but numbers? There is no challenge whatsoever in running down 1-2 FGs with a crazyass zerg tbh, anyone begging to differ is blatantly lying. There is also no challenge at all in adding on an ongoing fight with another FG or more either, odds are extremely high you will win the fight then, but why did you win? Did you win because of your good use of your character? Or did you win because you had to use a great tactical advantage and outnumber your enemy to the degree where all hope is lost for the opponent and banished their will to even go on and fight? Is that really what war is? That is in my eyes mercyless killing and not really neither honorable in a roleplaying way, or challenging for a munchkinplayer.

We get zerged tons, we qq abit, we go on.. looking for the next fight but, I personally wish people actually would at least consider to fight more fairly, I believe it is more fun for everyone in the end . I aint saying any realm is worse than any other, same goes for all. Stealther or nonstealther.

Hope at least someone understood what I really meant with this post.. those that dont, I cant say I feel sorry for you or so, I just hope you some day grow in the game and see how fun RVR actually can be too, on fair terms, when it is at its best.

/back to QQwhineCRYINGflaming-mode...

 

[daoc_xianghua]

face one or two groups and start a fight, halfway we can either loose or win, 3 FG adds in and run us over...

Now I ask myself, was that fun? For anyone at all?

For us, no, deffo no, since we lost due to one single thing, numbers. Not because we played bad, or met enemys that was a ton better than us, numbers killed us and nothing else.

For the 1-2 groups we had a fun fight going against, we are killing off each others and someone woulda won in the end, their fun ended too. We play RVR to kill each others, but tbh, hand on the heart, what is more fun, to have a really good fight that goes on for a couple of minutes that actually requires one to use the character? or one that ends within 10seconds..

I mean, why play a druid, if you never really heal anything, since nobody get so damaged that they actually need a heal? Why play a tank if you have 30 casters along blasting that full group to bits in 10s or less? etc etc..

I do understand if random groups run in FG+ up to 2FG or so, to stand a chanse vs the good guildgroups out there, otherwise they get waporized in very short time normally and I dont cry about those that do so, dont think I ever do tbh, sure in the heat of the moment when we get jumped by 2FGs and die I say something in my /g or /gu but thats about it, life goes on..

What I dont like is when we have a good fight going vs some enemys and it is a fair fight, be it some guildgroup or FG+ randoms, aslong as its somewhat fair odds, and yet another full group or often more comes running right into it and just run us over, adding for the sake of adding and RPgreed (our enemys didnt really need help to stand a decent chanse remember) and ruin both our fun, and ultimately their own realmmates fun... sure, from a roleplaying point of view, it is right to hunt down and kill enemys, all the time, but, roleplaying is also supposed to be fun aswell, it defeats its purpose if you take the roleplaying to the maximum without ever considering the consequenses of it, namely killing the fun for others, that aint really roleplaying in my eyes, that is just pure egocentric behaviour done only for the sake of proving some sort of point, can be alot of different points but the summary is still the same nomatter how you twist it.

In AD&D for example, would it be fun to run around with a highlvl paladin, and kill lowlvlmonsters?

In DAoC, is it fun to run around and kill greycon mobs?

In DAoC, is it fun to run around and win everything, due to pure numbers and nothing but numbers? There is no challenge whatsoever in running down 1-2 FGs with a crazyass zerg tbh, anyone begging to differ is blatantly lying. There is also no challenge at all in adding on an ongoing fight with another FG or more either, odds are extremely high you will win the fight then, but why did you win? Did you win because of your good use of your character? Or did you win because you had to use a great tactical advantage and outnumber your enemy to the degree where all hope is lost for the opponent and banished their will to even go on and fight? Is that really what war is? That is in my eyes mercyless killing and not really neither honorable in a roleplaying way, or challenging for a munchkinplayer.

We get zerged tons, we qq abit, we go on.. looking for the next fight but, I personally wish people actually would at least consider to fight more fairly, I believe it is more fun for everyone in the end . I aint saying any realm is worse than any other, same goes for all. Stealther or nonstealther.

Hope at least someone understood what I really meant with this post.. those that dont, I cant say I feel sorry for you or so, I just hope you some day grow in the game and see how fun RVR actually can be too, on fair terms, when it is at its best.

/back to QQwhineCRYINGflaming-mode...

damn well said

actually first reply made with brain, just sad that ppl on this forum cant read, and if they try to they turn your words as they want or just purely ignore them

anyways i´m out of this as i´ve seen its pointless to discuss this topic as some ppl just dont wanna listen, just good to see that not everyone in this game is that useless =)

 

[Ingafgrinn Macabre]

damn well said

actually first reply made with brain, just sad that ppl on this forum cant read, and if they try to they turn your words as they want or just purely ignore them

anyways i´m out of this as i´ve seen its pointless to discuss this topic as some ppl just dont wanna listen, just good to see that not everyone in this game is that useless =)

It's amazing that you are able to virtually turn every ******* reply made here into an insult...

 

[Straef]

It's amazing that you are able to virtually turn every ******* reply made here into an insult...

That's because he's the 'Oh, I didn't get it. I can't possibly be wrong, so the entire forum must be wrong instead' type :< With added retardedness

 

[bebopbo]

hmm, interesting replys (some)

"DAoC a roleplaying game"

On the box it says it is...but for me, thats as far as it goes, on a server like pryd/exc etc Roleplaying ends as soon we enter Ligen/Svas etc imo.. the only thing going through *most* players minds is "RP" not "lets defend Nged Spire from Authurs Hatchlings!" & this is why roleplay dont exist in RvR & never will unless you play on a roleplay server which afaik Euro doesnt have?

With server merge adding/zerging will be the *norm* imo, lot of guild grps about, lot of random grps who will prob end up running together from all realms (who i dont blame tbh) when im in a grp now i expect to be added on or zerged sooner or later if more enemy is near, if we dont get added on/zerged & we win the fight we had then i count us lucky. Gone are the days of being able to run in a FG prime time only to meet other FG's & nowt esle..DAoC has changed alot, Imo Mythic have also done there bit to stop fgVfg fights by adding the /rw map which shows where battles are real-time, why else would they add this feature?

For me i prefer large scale battles, infact id love it for every realm to gather a big fkin zerg everynight & we all just battle it out. Some will disagree ofc & some will agree, Plenty of times theres been scenes like this but mosty only when theres RR's & these are the times ive had most fun in DAoC & ive ran in opted/guild grps etc but the most fun for me is when theres true Large-scale battles

we all play for fun except except one persons idea of fun aint anothers & thats where the problem lies & theres no way around this in a game such as DAoC which has 3 realms competing against each other in PVP with mixed thoughts when it comes to fun.

 

[Dorin]

If you see me meleeing anyone - for godsakes, DO ADD. I'll more than likely need it, and if I don't, I don't mind sharing the rps. The important part is that we rip that hib/alb to ribbons. Preferably without me dying in the process.

Help me out with my fights and I'll help you out with yours. (And yes, I completely suck at melee. We can't all be keyboardwizards with sublight reactionspeeds.

I kill the alb first, any good?

 

[Boggy]

Shike, I do believe some people just get a kick out of killing people, whatever the odds. They are not doing it out of RP greed necessarily (though doubtless some are), but just through some kinda desire to kill.

The reason I say this is because another thing that isn't fun is when half your group chases after someone into a trap or just in a unwise situation to do so and ends up getting you whole group wiped. This happens a fair amount in random groups. It's not because it's fun, it's not through RP greed (because the route to more RPs is playing as a team), and it's not roleplaying (or very rarely). It's simply because when some people see and enemy they have no self-control.

There are also several other reasons people might add on a fight when you don't need help. The most obvious is that they don't know you don't need help. They can't see your hits and don't know what has happened in the fight so far. For all they know your enemies could be on the brink of wiping you THEN wiping them. It's safer to make sure the enemies die.

The other reason I can think of is that when you've run out 6 times and dieds in nano-seconds to the same opted group, it actually IS kinda fun to help kill them even if it's just borrowed glory from someone else's fight.

I can see how adding can spoil the fight for you, but until Mythic changes the game mechanics to support your preferred way of play, you'll be getting added on.

If Mythic added combat units into the game that were only allowed to attack and be attacked by other combat units of the same size, there would be an entirely opt-in method off add-free play. Since they haven't done that, it's really Mythic who are to blame for people adding.

 

[pip]

TBH you will never hardly ever get a fair fight. You will always have people that want to leech on everything. ( looks at the scouts)

Mainly in RVR i solo, and soloing as a warrior is preety hard, i dont have stealth or speed to run with so it isn't easy to get around.

And by the time i actually get to berk/beno after being on a boat for fives minutes i seem to die preety quickly afterwards, i might find a solo fight at the bridge or in the open but as soon as that happens, albs and hibs are like o leeeching time. Either a fg hibs or albs steam role me, or you get the sucky stealther adds who add and run away on a fight.

Me personnaly i dont add, i prefer to have fair fights, even if it isn't me fighting, just say a infil and a NS i wont leech into the fight because it sucks. you would probably get crappy amount of RP anyway and what have you achieved by leeching? nothing i say NOTHING

( side note) it would be nice if fg just decided to leave soloers alone, that goes for all realms, because when people actually try to solo in the game it is virtually impossible because everyone leeches.

And thanks for Rising force who actually do leave me alone when im soloing the most decent alb guild. /bow

Bradlex 5l1 norse warrior.

Try staying with your grp you might get 1 :touch: Instead of getting rp horney pulling guards nothing personal just good advise.

 

[MythieY]

TBH you will never hardly ever get a fair fight. You will always have people that want to leech on everything. ( looks at the scouts)

Mainly in RVR i solo, and soloing as a warrior is preety hard, i dont have stealth or speed to run with so it isn't easy to get around.

And by the time i actually get to berk/beno after being on a boat for fives minutes i seem to die preety quickly afterwards, i might find a solo fight at the bridge or in the open but as soon as that happens, albs and hibs are like o leeeching time. Either a fg hibs or albs steam role me, or you get the sucky stealther adds who add and run away on a fight.

Me personnaly i dont add, i prefer to have fair fights, even if it isn't me fighting, just say a infil and a NS i wont leech into the fight because it sucks. you would probably get crappy amount of RP anyway and what have you achieved by leeching? nothing i say NOTHING

( side note) it would be nice if fg just decided to leave soloers alone, that goes for all realms, because when people actually try to solo in the game it is virtually impossible because everyone leeches.

And thanks for Rising force who actually do leave me alone when im soloing the most decent alb guild. /bow

Bradlex 5l1 norse warrior.

tbh...u run off when ur in a grp, you pull aggro from guards all the time...your template is rubish, your spec is gimped...and your a mouthy little turnip when ever some one asks you not to run off.... now i belive that is why u cant get grps

 

[Shike]

Shike, I do believe some people just get a kick out of killing people, whatever the odds. They are not doing it out of RP greed necessarily (though doubtless some are), but just through some kinda desire to kill.

The reason I say this is because another thing that isn't fun is when half your group chases after someone into a trap or just in a unwise situation to do so and ends up getting you whole group wiped. This happens a fair amount in random groups. It's not because it's fun, it's not through RP greed (because the route to more RPs is playing as a team), and it's not roleplaying (or very rarely). It's simply because when some people see and enemy they have no self-control.

There are also several other reasons people might add on a fight when you don't need help. The most obvious is that they don't know you don't need help. They can't see your hits and don't know what has happened in the fight so far. For all they know your enemies could be on the brink of wiping you THEN wiping them. It's safer to make sure the enemies die.

The other reason I can think of is that when you've run out 6 times and dieds in nano-seconds to the same opted group, it actually IS kinda fun to help kill them even if it's just borrowed glory from someone else's fight.

I can see how adding can spoil the fight for you, but until Mythic changes the game mechanics to support your preferred way of play, you'll be getting added on.

If Mythic added combat units into the game that were only allowed to attack and be attacked by other combat units of the same size, there would be an entirely opt-in method off add-free play. Since they haven't done that, it's really Mythic who are to blame for people adding.

I love killing stuff too, trust me Im a true berzerk when it comes to fighting and I go frenzy alot but, I still respect our grpleader (the bard) if he says we aint gonna add 9/10 at least.

And I expect RVR going nuts when cluster is here, will probably be lawless mindless zergfests in some places. Will see if its fun or not though, hopefully it wont be stupid instaRVR with all grps in one area at least, should tone down adds alot I think.

 

[Sharkith]

Shike,

what you say is reasonable and makes sense and of course getting run over by a mob of mindless thugs is not exactly funny. What is wrong with what you say is that essentially roleplaying as a misnomer. Don't forget that on these forums roleplaying was used as an insult and so it has a kind of very different meaning to what it actually is. If 3-4fg's of people are roleplaying (which I very much doubt it) by running on stick and zerging everything then they are being munchkin's by only playing to win no matter what.

I tend to agree with Bebopbo if there is roleplaying in the frontier it is likely to be quite short and certainly would not really be the focus of roaming around at random with 4 fg's. So remove the roleplaying label and call it what it really is and you might reduce some of the confusion. The problem is that roaming with 4fg's is so pointless - you could take a keep with 4 fg's - why don't those zergs go off and preoccupy themselves with keep taking or something else in a different zone of the game?

The problem is I am not totally sure if that would help the situation.

Anyway at least it your post was worded in a more reasonable way.

Sharkith