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Consoles are just standardised pcs anyway arnt they. After the sony cell processors they have all been based around pc hardware.
 

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Consoles are just standardised pcs anyway arnt they. After the sony cell processors they have all been based around pc hardware.
Well, Sony had some bold claims about the PS5 - nothing on the PC currently has higher memory bandwidth than the PS5 will have, it'll be interesting to see how it turns out.
 

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Backwards-compatibility? I've heard that before :/
 

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Well, Sony had some bold claims about the PS5 - nothing on the PC currently has higher memory bandwidth than the PS5 will have, it'll be interesting to see how it turns out.
But HBM/HBM2 is technology developed for PC replacing the old GPU memory constraints of DDR this is not something Sony or anyone developed for consoles like the PS5, If I remember correctly Samsung/AMD did a lot of the work around this 3d stacking memory solution. Been about year since I saw a tech presentation on it though so maybe its changed focus.

The bottleneck will still be the SSD.

Edit: the reason it's not on PC's now is the pricing. Fabrication plants not yet scaled to produce in large supply and until they do it will be research and high end only. It is coming though.
 

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On top of HBM, he said "currently"... motherboards supporting PCIe 4.0 will be coming out in Q2 this year and 5.0 isn't far behind.
 

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But HBM/HBM2 is technology developed for PC replacing the old GPU memory constraints of DDR this is not something Sony or anyone developed for consoles like the PS5, If I remember correctly Samsung/AMD did a lot of the work around this 3d stacking memory solution. Been about year since I saw a tech presentation on it though so maybe its changed focus.

The bottleneck will still be the SSD.

Edit: the reason it's not on PC's now is the pricing. Fabrication plants not yet scaled to produce in large supply and until they do it will be research and high end only. It is coming though.
Not sure about the SSD tbh, they're meant to be making a "Custom" SSD purely to work with the PS5 hardware, I don't think that will be the bottleneck.
 

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Not sure about the SSD tbh, they're meant to be making a "Custom" SSD purely to work with the PS5 hardware, I don't think that will be the bottleneck.
Mass storage is always the slowest part of a system. Even if its designed for it. It wont be as fast as the cpu or ram
 

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All very 'meh' tbh.
 

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Backwards-compatibility? I've heard that before :/
Well it should be easier since they aren't coming from a custom processor that the PS3 had and just staying on essentially the same architecture, although there is probably more money to be made in not being compatible.

All very 'meh' tbh.
It'll never really be any thing but 'meh' since as we've all got older the leaps don't seem as impressive as they once did.
 

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It'll never really be any thing but 'meh' since as we've all got older the leaps don't seem as impressive as they once did.
Actually for me it was more about this all feeling a bit like a whole load of nothing in reaction to the Google announcement recently. It just seemed like it was all just designed to shift the conversation back to Sony.
 

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I think the Sony SSD is being really underestimated. That sort of SSD in a console genuinely lets developers have sooooo much free will when it comes to games development. Calling it and you can quote me on this later

My prediction

PS5 will be

A) Cheaper
B) Sell more than the new Xbox
C) Just a better overall console despite being the underdog in various power points

And let me tell you why

A) Lower specs, lower price - just common sense
B) This ties into A)
C) Current gen wasn't decided on power, Xbox One X was drastically more powerful than the PS4 Pro and Sony still steamrolled Xbox

And a bonus point

You can get Xbox Game pass and play all the games on your PC anyway, so why even buy an Xbox? just buy a PC and you can literally play everything on that instead of an Xbox
 

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And sony generally have the better exclusives.

with xbox exclusives mostly available on pc too.
 

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Not convinced @BloodOmen

Sony appear to be relying upon developers to "optimise for the platform" again. I'm sure that will pay dividends for first party developers but I don't see it doing much for the AAA cross platform ones.

Also, in my mind the current generation was decided when Microsoft focused too much on TV nonsense.

They also tried to DRM the hell out of everything and Sony did this to them (which I still find funny now)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA


I think Microsoft have a better shout this time, especially if I can buy titles on Steam that end up working on PC and XBox.
 

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I don't really care for any of the next gen consoles. They are still going to be expensive. I rather just build a new pc and game on that instead.
 

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Doesn't look like an X-Box controller to me, it looks like a shitty paint job on a PS4 controller
 

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Doesn't look like an X-Box controller to me, it looks like a shitty paint job on a PS4 controller
Does kind of look like a PS controller that failed to completely morph into a xbox controller.
 

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Saying that I just skipped through the event, some interesting games, the graphics look good (though streamed at 1080p).

I own both a PS4 and Xbox One X, no doubt will end up buying both again. FS.

What I would give for some new Burnout games....
 

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What I would give for some new Burnout games....
That hurts me inside. I still play Paradise once in a while for nostalgia.

I hope it has a horizontal setting. I don't want it next to my TV :|
 

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That hurts me inside. I still play Paradise once in a while for nostalgia.

I hope it has a horizontal setting. I don't want it next to my TV :|
You can lay it horizontal, already confirmed.

My favourite Burnout was Point of Impact, never laughed so much doing those crashes to earn money. I have Paradise but it is not the same.
 

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OK Boomer ;)

Thank Jesus at it being able to lay flat. Unless they release a white XBSX it'd sit in a cupboard. If both white, both sides of the TV!

Based on Ratchet and Clank I'm probably grabbing the PS5 first. Going to be an expensive year as Baldur's Gate 3 is also coming out so I need a PC refresh too.
 

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