Glottis said:Lol, what a retarded post to be honest. Of course Jox tries his best to out perform Dicer....
Claiming archers are some non stop killing machine like assasins are is just utter and compleet bollocks. Maybe at the very start of DaoC where archers overpowered. But with the introduction of self bt and numerous other stealth nerfs this has not been the case for most of the passed 2 years.
See hidden was even more retarded, and yet all the SB's felt it complemented their overpowered LA very well.
Can assasins please not bitch about archers being able to get 1k range SH for the cost of 30 something RP's, compared to 3.5k range SH at the cost of 8 rp's that the assasin community enjoyed?
If this is too much for you CS bot noobs to understand, tough.
Regards, Glottis
oh no! not that!!!emma said:The Assassin community will all but dissapear if these RA`s go live as they are currently.
TS1 is 200 2 is 500 and 3 is 1k so the rest of your post is most likely nonsense. Also on every page(well atleast 1 and 2 and now 3 aswell) of this thread it has been mentioned that its 1k range for 30 points so you might have done some more reading before opening your mouth.emma said:There will be no way of escaping a TS3 archer as an Assassin in Frontiers.
TS3 is 3k range. An assassins only means of escape Vanish 3 is only 2k range.
CjkaceBM said:ROFL I love these kind of threads.
Fact 1 - New Frontiers and it's new RA system isn't tested fully yet, so you don't have a clue what will go live.
Fact 2 - You are comparing New Frontiers to old style RVR when you don't have a clue how the terrain re-vamp will affect the fights.
Fact 3 - Many of the so-called uber l33t wtfpwning RAs will cost nearly a third of all the RPs you will ever make.
Why don't you wait and see how everything takes shape before you scream for nerfs?
emma said:There will be no way of escaping a TS3 archer as an Assassin in Frontiers.
TS3 is 3k range. An assassins only means of escape Vanish 3 is only 2k range.
All the archer has to do is pan his camera spot the Assassin and pluck him full of arrows. The assassin cant do shit cos they cant attack for 30 seconds after using Vanish.
Sure its revenge for the archers for the past 2 years where they have been slaughtered by assassins. But do two wrongs make a right. No.
The Assassin community will all but dissapear if these RA`s go live as they are currently. You can do all the QQ`n etc you want. But you`ll (mr. archer) searching around with nothing but other archers to kill.
Ohh and TS3 + Minstrel speed = Overpowered.
3000 range basically the distance of AMG BM to Just down near the start of the bowl area in emain, ie a bloody long way.
mastery of retirement 2 ?emma said:The Assassin community will all but dissapear if these RA`s go live as they are currently. You can do all the QQ`n etc you want. But you`ll (mr. archer) searching around with nothing but other archers to kill.
I agree here, I suggest wait till Frontiers is out then whine all you can . Till then, I will drool about the idea of my Dashing Defense 3 .CjkaceBM said:ROFL I love these kind of threads.
Fact 1 - New Frontiers and it's new RA system isn't tested fully yet, so you don't have a clue what will go live.
Fact 2 - You are comparing New Frontiers to old style RVR when you don't have a clue how the terrain re-vamp will affect the fights.
Fact 3 - Many of the so-called uber l33t wtfpwning RAs will cost nearly a third of all the RPs you will ever make.
Why don't you wait and see how everything takes shape before you scream for nerfs?
Aussie said:mastery of retirement 2 ?
Tootz said:Only thing that could return a scout to his former ability to actually kill things as he used to is, quite frankly, a nuclear missile RA. The ability to instantly wipe out half of emain with the touch of 1 button.
Over the years he's become a joke. Bow damage is now completely woefull (when it actually hits that is because half the time it misses, gets evaded, or blocked), melee skill and damage is crap (even when speccing into the 30's), shield is next to useless because of the dual wield bug, and the same goes for evade.
Add to this the fact he has had his ass handed to him for well over a year thanks to See Hidden, which basically made it impossible to play the game anymore as a soloer, the Scout easily qualifies as the most shafted class in the whole game. Oh and Camo is a waste of quickbar space tbh, the recast timer is a joke and just sums up the half-assed thinking that goes on over at mythic and goa.
Oh and if this is meant to be history repeating, please don't bother saying anything if the only history you know of on this subject is what has been happening in BG.
aug dexBelomar said:The original See Hidden made me stop soloing with my minstrel and killed off a lot of the fun I had with it. Now, New Frontiers is introducing new RAs that are threatening to do the same for my new main (no MotArt?!? ).
i'll believe that when i can kill assassins from 1000 units range...Amadon said:back on topic, it seems archers are however becoming godlike once again..
Glottis said:Archers will never be able to kill from 1800 range at free will.
Not sure where you got that notion from. A solo tank will just be able to block all shots, a solo wiz is supposed to die to an archer, but has a very good chance to gank the crap out of it (pet or quickcast for example).
So not sure why you fear some kind of return to more than 2 years ago, when archers where uber...
Regards, Glottis
QQ ?vintervargen said:you have NO IDEA how SH was in the hands of retarded people. (read meduza)
Jox said:
Well said Dicer.
I rather fight heat-legendary-weilding infils in rr 10+ than rr 2 snipers with perma-TS, hell even a tossers like Slotty will be a threat.