Patch Day D + 1: Evaluation?

[Belomar]

All right, we've now had the 1.60 patch live for about 24 hours and everyone has probably had time to settle in, gawk at the new icons, redo their quickbars (eek), and take their toons for a run or two in RvR. So, let's summarize how things are with this new patch, shall we? What is everyone's feelings about it?

For my own part, all I can say is that the Alb love is working really nice. We had a guild group roaming in Odin's the whole evening (after the dragon raid) last night, and it was amazing how many times we come through now when we otherwise would have lost. This is partly because of minor things like castable mana crack and the cleric heal proc, but mainly due to superb things like bolt range mezz, mezz reduction chant, 2.5 sec ice wizz PBAE, and the (all-powerful) minstrel ablative chant. Our 1.5 FGs was repeatedly getting engaged in running three-way battles the whole time, I think at one point we were able to rest only for 5 out of 30 minutes, and it was amazing to see us come through time after time instead of being ganked to bits by a horde of zerkers or chanters.

All in all, a very nice evening that give a good feeling for the new patch. In my opinion, this patch has restored the balance between the three realms, at least when it comes to organized guild RvR warfare (not sure about pickup groups nor zerging). What do you all think?

(EDIT: Yes, this is a thinly-veiled "pwned j00" post. )

 

[Tyka]

Nothing new to hibs really, but i hope the albs will split up a bit more now

 

[ardamels]

We had a dragon raid too most of the evening, hence almost no balanced grps in Odin's, however i'm happy that you are satisfied the the alb luv

 

[greenfingers]

albion : very nice patches
hib: pretty nice aswels, no big changes
mid: bout time the got nerfed !


but yes, all in all NOW the realms are even!!! though I MUST say .. hib needs some luuuve, which they will get in 1.62 (long time, I know ... Untill 1.62 I will spare as many hibs that I can!!!)

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by ardamels
We had a dragon raid too most of the evening, hence almost no balanced grps in Odin's

Hmm, the 2 FGs of NP (and friends) seemed rather balanced to me. Also, a little bird told me you Mids have some troubles killing your dragon, eh?

 

[old.anubis]

mwahahahaha
saw your lemming zerg yesterday in emain
admit it, you are still gimps

 

[ardamels]

Originally posted by Belomar
Hmm, the 2 FGs of NP (and friends) seemed rather balanced to me. Also, a little bird told me you Mids have some troubles killing your dragon, eh?

Yep it's true, we had the ppl for it and we tried the US style on the dragon but we got wiped, was atleast 2 FGs NP there for the dragon so it must've been after that you met them

 

[dakeyras]

Aye, last night was great fun and for the first time in ages felt as though we were competing on relatively equal terms.

Mezz was hardly an issue...more of a speed bump and stun was just shrugged off. Our mezzes seemed more effective, the ablatives and heal kept us up when in the past we would have been just RP fodder for the same enemies.

As Belomar stated, it helped that we were in a balanced Guild force of 1.5fg and the results could well have differed had it been a pickup group.

As for the Mids, sorry Ardamals, your conceit is starting to make you look a trifle intellectually challenged . Though there were some sundry stragglers I wouldn't call NP unbalanced.

I think what must have shocked the enemy we met the most, Hibs more than Mids, was the backfiring of their tactics.

In one example 2 gps of Hibs charged through HMG to see us running the towards them. Hibs went into the 'wee, RP cows inc! Get the pbaoe ready!' phase of their tactics and all drew into a nice tight pack Hib side of the gate ready to let their Enchanters do their stuff.

We shrug off the insta mezz, cast sorc mezz...and its Ice Wizzy time

Nicely packed Hibbies didn't know what hit em.

For Albion, Guild RvR just got a whole lot better.

And the new glow and boosted stats on my Caer Sidi Flail just makes Levi sweeter

 

[Jiggs]

i like the new glowing staff

 

[censi]

1.5 FGs

sigh

 

[bracken_woodman]

Originally posted by censi
sigh

sigh

 

[Radghast]

now that the "we only zerg because we have 2 to win" argument has been destroyed. plz plz plz...stop it...

ofc u wont, cause midgard won't so counter zerg's and omg the fun goes on forever and ever...think ill stay in crim and just watch

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by censi
sigh

At it's peak we were 1 gp of 8 and 1 of 6. For most of the evening it was 1 of 7 and 1 of 6.


Is it perhaps your ego smarting? Stuffed by Albs the whole evening so it must have been a zerg? ehh?

 

[Molten Lava]

Lvl 50 sorc

Had to work last night so I only had 30 mins to play. So far I love this patch...we had a fight 2fg albs verus 1fg LA and 1fg random hibs (and later on mids) and the fight lasted like 5, 6 or maybe 7 mins before we got zerged from behind by 3fg Mids...

Bolt-mezz = really nice....mezzed more hibs in a fight than the total number of hibs I mezzed last month

Power regen (4 as Im 44 mind) + MCL2 fixed = almost no powerproblems eventhough I was spamming mezz, debuff and DD's all over the place

Group-anti-mezz chant = Does seem to help alot, althoug the lvl 39 one is only 10 (points? procent?)

Personal-anti-mezz chant = 40 (points? procent?) does seem to help a lot....I was mezzed only once in this fight and only for a very short duration....

All in all I had only one big fight but I think RvR looked a lot more balanced now (both hibs and albs had casualties untill mids showed up and killed the last few standing)...could have been luck, but its interesting to see that the first fight after the patch tookk a good 5 mins (instead of the normal 20 seconds)

 

[old.Tzeentch]

btw, camping HMG in Odins with 2fg, getting owned by 8 of us, then your backup of 3fg more arriving != ownage.

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
btw, camping HMG in Odins with 2fg, getting owned by 8 of us, then your backup of 3fg more arriving != ownage.

???

We didn't get 'owned' once. A couple of players, incl me, had the odd death but that was it.

The only time there was more than 2 fg was when we bumped into an existing Alb vs Mid fight and instinct took over. That happens, but doesn't constitute zerging.

In reply to an earlier post. Albs will always zerg emain, as will Mids, as will Hibs. The only realm that zergs Odin's is Mids but then it is their backyard they are defending.

If you don't want to meet the 'Warder' zerg, don't go emain.

 

[Belomar]

Indeed. Our guild group did not camp HMG either, we were generally roaming in the AMG - HMG - Bledmeer Fork triangle, getting some nice fights with both Hibs and Mids. We did encounter a lot of opposition at HMG at one point, however (thus the 5 out of 30 minutes rest session). Of course, we weren't the only Albs there, so it's possible you mistake us for someone else, Tzeentch. Admittedly, last night was indeed a night of good timing, we helped out and got helped out by other Albs just in the nick of time on several occasions.

 

[-Wedge-]

They'll never believe us when we say we didnt camp HMG

True, you guys bumbed into us a few times when we where resting there, but blame some random mids (I think it was) for that... It wasnt even a good spot to rest

I myself had a horible evening almost, my group did pretty well, but honestly, just a question... Who put out a hit on me? Almost each freaking battle I died first... Oh look, a bunch of albs, ooh there he is, GET MAGMATIC...

 

[old.Tzeentch]

came to hmg about 5 times, each time there as at least 2fg albs there.. 'resting' = walking about on walls etc waiting for people to come through?

translated in hibbeh tongue = camping?

was a bit fun, until the final time we went, managed to break through, when a guild grp(s?) of albs in a yellowy kinda emblem came with some others and did their usual thing.

 

[marchegiani]

We did not camp HMG full stop. The only time we spent time at HMG was to rest. On a number of occasions we were moving from HMG and we got the call "hibs/mids" at HMG, so we instinctively headed back. Kicked ass, rested and then moved again.

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
when a guild grp(s?) of albs in a yellowy kinda emblem came with some others and did their usual thing.

That was us. And we didn't come 'with some others'. There were 2 Guild gps but some weren't wearing Guild Cloaks. I'm a Reaver FFS...I wear black!

 

[quinthar]

Originally posted by Tyka
Nothing new to hibs really, but i hope the albs will split up a bit more now

My grp of 5 did split up and then promptly got ganked by 3.5FG's hibs at AMG, so go figure...

 

[old.Tzeentch]

why rest at a milegate?

'hey guys im just gonna rest at amg emain'

like its a safe place.

 

[rure]

Tricky thing with mincer ablative is that you have to twist it with the mezzing. As soon as you starts mezzing the ablative ends. It is easy to forget that you should start ablative after mezz again. I suppose it just takes some time to learn how it works.

 

[K0nah]

yes tehalbzerg is in Odins too, there is no escape!!1 and it sux.

just need RvR to expand to HW now, u better let us know if/when u hibs/mids start getting it on up there

 

[splash0r]

Originally posted by Belomar
Hmm, the 2 FGs of NP (and friends) seemed rather balanced to me. Also, a little bird told me you Mids have some troubles killing your dragon, eh?

Was only 1 fg NP fyi that kicked ur butt

 

[old.LandShark]

Originally posted by Tyka
Nothing new to hibs really, but i hope the albs will split up a bit more now

I don't know if you'll believe me, but we honestly hope so ourselves...

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by K0nah
yes tehalbzerg is in Odins too, there is no escape!!1 and it sux.

just need RvR to expand to HW now, u better let us know if/when u hibs/mids start getting it on up there

Not seen an Alb zerg in Odins (outside of RR attempts), nor HW for that matter.

If what you are saying is that other Guilds shouldn't conduct Guild RvR then that speaks volumes.

Do FC pay more for their accounts that grants them exclusive access?

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by splash0r
Was only 1 fg NP fyi that kicked ur butt

All you seemed to do is die, /release, and return to me.

Must have been some other Albs

 

[Subbiz]

so albs gonna stop zerg now? :>