Patch Day D + 1: Evaluation?

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by dakeyras
All you seemed to do is die, /release, and return to me.

Must have been some other Albs

there where only 8 of us (7 if you count kalli afk every 2 mins ;>)


we only lost to albs when they brought a massive zerg, over 3fg....we killed 23 before we finally died.

So grats, your zerg only just, managed to kill 8 ppl...and that was because me+teh sham ran outta power, tanks used thier ip, then no more healing ;x



we still kicked your ass when you kept it as low as 2-3fg

 

[old.LandShark]

Originally posted by Subbiz
so albs gonna stop zerg now? :>

Did mids stop zerg when 1fg mids was > 1fg albs? :>

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by Subbiz
so albs gonna stop zerg now? :>

Some Albs don't zerg, quite a few in fact.

Emain will always be zergland, that will never change but hopefully Odin/HW will remain zerg free primarily because there is less chance of getting a place in a pickup group.

Emain won't change because typical groups just don't have a good range of the old toys let alone the new ones so it is strength through numbers, particularly when facing 2+ FG of higher RR.

Having said that. Shadowlords Society conducts Guild RvR in 1-2FG every nite in Odin/HW, and enjoy the fights. But if, whilst running as 2FG we get trampled by 5+ FG Mids then what do you want us to do...

In those situations 5FG+ will return to clear you out..then go our seperate ways again.

Don't zerg us and you won't be zerged back

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
there where only 8 of us (7 if you count kalli afk every 2 mins ;>)


we only lost to albs when they brought a massive zerg, over 3fg....we killed 23 before we finally died.

So grats, your zerg only just, managed to kill 8 ppl...and that was because me+teh sham ran outta power, tanks used thier ip, then no more healing ;x



we still kicked your ass when you kept it as low as 2-3fg

The most our 1.5 groups lost in fights with you was 2 dead. And 3 members were <45

Can't see how that was having our ass kicked?

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by dakeyras
The most our 1.5 groups lost in fights with you was 2 dead. And 3 members were <45

Can't see how that was having our ass kicked?

1.5 grps?


I got a screenshot here says ur lieing ;x

 

[Carlos Bananos]

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlos.bananos/daoc/dem SS zergs ;x.jpg

26 ppl on teh pic alone ;x

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlos.bananos/daoc/dem SS zergs ;x.jpg

26 ppl on teh pic alone ;x

4 players wearing SS cloaks in that pic. We were 13-15 in the Guild Group (but also weren't the only Guildies in Odin's)

As I stated earlier. On one occasion we came across NP fighting Albs and instinct took over. Don't think it was that pic though as that looks closer to the MG.

Love the comment though '5 6 groups....'

LOL Slight bending of the truth

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by dakeyras
4 players wearing SS cloaks in that pic. We were 13-15 in the Guild Group (but also weren't the only Guildies in Odin's)

As I stated earlier. On one occasion we came across NP fighting Albs and instinct took over. Don't think it was that pic though as that looks closer to the MG.

Love the comment though '5 6 groups....'

LOL Slight bending of the truth

well, think about it, count 26 ppl in the pic, 4 with SS cloaks. so say you had 13-15, thats at least (26+10 or so SS that AINT in the pic) 36 albs at one mg 36/8 is 4.5 groups, it's a close estimate from the pic alone

and you know as well as i do...i didn't get all the people there in the pic (the other 10 SS for starters)...there where more closer to hmg so 5+groups isn't an offnumber, simply 4 more ppl ontop if the SS out of the pic would amount to 5 groups.

 

[dakeyras]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
well, think about it, count 26 ppl in the pic, 4 with SS cloaks. so say you had 13-15, thats at least (26+10 or so SS that AINT in the pic) 36 albs at one mg 36/8 is 4.5 groups, it's a close estimate from the pic alone

and you know as well as i do...i didn't get all the people there in the pic (the other 10 SS for starters)...there where more closer to hmg so 5+groups isn't an offnumber, simply 4 more ppl ontop if the SS out of the pic would amount to 5 groups.

The most I saw in Odin's last night together at any one time (though not moving together) was our 1.5 gps, a gp from The Brethren and a couple of soloers.

Out of 4 fights with NP, 3 were just our 1.5 gps and 1 was with The Brethren already engaged and we joined the fight. One fight at AMG involved at least 1 other Mid group.

If others came whilst you were dead, and that pic looks to me like a number of Albs moving to the scene after the fight, we didn't hang around to see. Only rested once at a MG in the 3 hours.

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by K0nah
yes tehalbzerg is in Odins too, there is no escape!!1 and it sux.

Umm, so is this your way of calling our guild group a zerg and somehow being superior? We had 1.5 FG, I think that constitutes a reasonably-sized RvR squad.

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by Belomar
Umm, so is this your way of calling our guild group a zerg and somehow being superior? We had 1.5 FG, I think that constitutes a reasonably-sized RvR squad.

1.5g, running alongside, coincidently, 3 other grps ;x

 

[Snake.ster]

only 24 albs in the piccy fyi carlos.

 

[froler-mid]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/carlos.bananos/daoc/dem SS zergs ;x.jpg

26 ppl on teh pic alone ;x

ffs 5-6fg


^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[Trinilim]

Originally posted by Belomar
All right, we've now had the 1.60 patch live for about 24 hours and everyone has probably had time to settle in, gawk at the new icons, redo their quickbars (eek), and take their toons for a run or two in RvR. So, let's summarize how things are with this new patch, shall we? What is everyone's feelings about it?

For my own part, all I can say is that the Alb love is working really nice. We had a guild group roaming in Odin's the whole evening (after the dragon raid) last night, and it was amazing how many times we come through now when we otherwise would have lost. This is partly because of minor things like castable mana crack and the cleric heal proc, but mainly due to superb things like bolt range mezz, mezz reduction chant, 2.5 sec ice wizz PBAE, and the (all-powerful) minstrel ablative chant. Our 1.5 FGs was repeatedly getting engaged in running three-way battles the whole time, I think at one point we were able to rest only for 5 out of 30 minutes, and it was amazing to see us come through time after time instead of being ganked to bits by a horde of zerkers or chanters.

All in all, a very nice evening that give a good feeling for the new patch. In my opinion, this patch has restored the balance between the three realms, at least when it comes to organized guild RvR warfare (not sure about pickup groups nor zerging). What do you all think?

(EDIT: Yes, this is a thinly-veiled "pwned j00" post. )

I love the patch and all, and I'm sorry to burst your bubble buuut..

Any organized well-balanced alb group can demolish any hib or mid group that's even slightly unbalanced.

Just ask Irena, me and her (2, dous, double) were at mmg in emain a while back before patch. We (2 people) managed to kill a fg of disorganized unbalanced mids. Several times in fact, as they came back a couple more times.

So any alb group that's well thought-out can own in rvr, although I'm very sure the patch buffs did nothing but help a bit too

 

[hellraisermk2]

Re: Re: Patch Day D + 1: Evaluation?

Originally posted by Trinilim
I love the patch and all, and I'm sorry to burst your bubble buuut..

Any organized well-balanced alb group can demolish any hib or mid group that's even slightly unbalanced.

Just ask Irena, me and her (2, dous, double) were at mmg in emain a while back before patch. We (2 people) managed to kill a fg of disorganized unbalanced mids. Several times in fact, as they came back a couple more times.

So any alb group that's well thought-out can own in rvr, although I'm very sure the patch buffs did nothing but help a bit too

Heh, that makes a change from the "a balanced Alb group still gets pwned by a balanced hib/ mid group because we're underpowered, or realm X is overpowered" arguement of the last few months.

The changes were needed, but lets not come up with new reasons to justify/ change old whines ("we zerg to stand a chance" will now be "we zerg because so and so did," etc etc).

 

[Belomar]

Re: Re: Patch Day D + 1: Evaluation?

Originally posted by Trinilim
I love the patch and all, and I'm sorry to burst your bubble buuut..

Oh, sorry, Trinilim Bubble Burster, I forgot that you solo >>> any other alb. Albion's own Optical, the guy who spends more time crawling BW and whining than actually playing the game (and who even had to post a RR4 gratz thread to himself).

Any organized well-balanced alb group can demolish any hib or mid group that's even slightly unbalanced.

Frankly, I don't see how you burst our bubble here. Yes, it's always been possible to kill enemy FGs with a good guild group. My post was about everyone's thoughts about the new patch and the new Albion abilities.

 

[marchegiani]

NP got their asses handed to them and ok, it doesnt happen often. So just live with it.

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by marchegiani
NP got their asses handed to them and ok, it doesnt happen often. So just live with it.

NP had 1fg, u had 1.5fg at the least, so saying NP got their asses handed to em doesn't quite pan out, try killing em 1fg vs 1fg i guarentee u will have much more trouble.

 

[ab_fluid]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
1.5g, running alongside, coincidently, 3 other grps ;x

just any fyi, thats really not that good of a statement, i have lost count of the amount of times i have been zerged by 2fg RG + 2FG NP + 2fg BC at the same time, if u hear of smth like "VGN at amg 2fg" on /as u get ur ass their as fast as possible, which imo is what happens a lot on alb /as too conserning NP

 

[ztyx]

I just love my new bracers
The rest.. yeah whatever lol

 

[ab_fluid]

BTW....Magmatic, u get targetted first as u are the most deadly mage in alb atm, is good too see a alb pbaoer played well. I'll be on u as soon as i see u evry fight tho :>

//Aluvian

 

[splash0r]

Originally posted by dakeyras
The most our 1.5 groups lost in fights with you was 2 dead. And 3 members were <45

Can't see how that was having our ass kicked?

lol get real....

 

[splash0r]

Originally posted by marchegiani
NP got their asses handed to them and ok, it doesnt happen often. So just live with it.

bloody likely ^^

 

[splash0r]

You can sa whatever you want and dream all you want of ur imagenary skillz good for you but we got zerged plain and simple and it was 4 5 grps so dont lie about it and make up sad excuses
and yes we got pwned but we still kicked ur ass for more than you did ours

 

[Carlos Bananos]

Originally posted by splash0r
You can sa whatever you want and dream all you want of ur imagenary skillz good for you but we got zerged plain and simple and it was 4 5 grps so dont lie about it and make up sad excuses
and yes we got pwned but we still kicked ur ass for more than you did ours

we also killed teh zerg a few times ^

1fg vs 3fg ;x

 

[old.BJ|Bored]

i walked over 2fg LA c 2fg NP and soloed all 4g!


then i woke up

 

[Belomar]

The evening ended in us returning to ATK after no more enemies turned up to fight us. So whichever Albs you guys pwned, it wasn't us.

 

[heath]

I was in the 2nd Shadowlords group last night and only died once...as they have all said before...we were 1.5 fg and came to the aid of other groups when needed. If that is a zerg then we should all rethink our playing and tactics and just sit down when we see 1fg vs 1fg...don't want to get whined at for helping our realm now do we !!! (O; And if you check my sig..i was one of the low chars in the guild that was there, lvl 44...And as for IP..i only got that after the whole night was over and i returned to camelot to finally get it. So, basically from my point of view..i had a damn good night..killed more than i normally do...and returned knowing that this time NP got got walked over more than usual.
If this is guild RvR...you are gonna see a lot more of me walking over over NP bodies face down in the dirt. And i am gonna take screenies of them all...print them off and paper my toilet wall with them....:kissit:

 

[marchegiani]

NP, your dummies are in the corner.

Im sure if i could be arsed lookin there would be a quote sayin that it takes 3fg's of albs to kill 1 fg of mids, from a NP member, but alas, u got killed, no, Owned, time after time, and i dont care what u say, it was 1.5 V 1.5.

Tonight was a different matter. SS had barely 1fg whereas i counted 1, maybe 1.5fg's of NP and maybe another 1fg of non NP and u tore us all a new arsehole so fair play to ya. At least im gracious in defeat and can say "well done mids". Lets all put this behind us and meet up for a swift half in the local odins alehouse, where we can exchange stories and chat up the barmaidens, except u mids wont get anywhere with em cos your all ugly as f00k and have faces like a slapt arse.

 

[splash0r]

Originally posted by marchegiani
NP, your dummies are in the corner.

Im sure if i could be arsed lookin there would be a quote sayin that it takes 3fg's of albs to kill 1 fg of mids, from a NP member, but alas, u got killed, no, Owned, time after time, and i dont care what u say, it was 1.5 V 1.5.

Tonight was a different matter. SS had barely 1fg whereas i counted 1, maybe 1.5fg's of NP and maybe another 1fg of non NP and u tore us all a new arsehole so fair play to ya. At least im gracious in defeat and can say "well done mids". Lets all put this behind us and meet up for a swift half in the local odins alehouse, where we can exchange stories and chat up the barmaidens, except u mids wont get anywhere with em cos your all ugly as f00k and have faces like a slapt arse.

Ur an alb riiit? i rest my case....