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[Dook_Pug]

I find it really amusing that you guys get so worked up over buffbots.

Lots of generalisations in this post too which really don't hold water.

If the problem is really as bad as you guys swear it is something will be done. If not, bye. /wave

Anyway, have fun whining. I'm off to be '1337' and 'ub3r' with my bot now.

Heh.

 

[0pin]

Maedhros :
I respect your opinions, but you keep comin with the same argument over and over again
Yes a nightshade is good when we get enough RA's and yes we can beat most classes unbuffed.....but clearly the whole buffbot thing is getting to you bigtime and makeing you mad or else you wouldnt post so much about it....as i said before mythic is not gonna do anything about it so you can either keep getting pissed about it and eventually quit in frustration (and you been close to quitting according to your posts on ohter boards ) or you can start playing and have fun again by accepting buffs as a part of this game.
Yeah buffbots suck and wish mythic would do anything about it but they are not and im gonna do what needed to keep my fun ingame.
Tho me and revminster had a really fun fight unbuffed against a skald and artemiso last night.

On another note some of you guys seem to put way to much into it, you play like its the last thing you will ever do and its not like bein honorable in a game will get you a job later on. And have you guys noticed that hardly anyone who uses a bot have time to post on these boards ? Its my experince that its the people who keep talking about buffbots that are the addicted ones, we ohters just wanna have fun.

 

[klavrynd]

Its my experince that its the people who keep talking about buffbots that are the addicted ones, we ohters just wanna have fun.

and that makes you a better person?

buffbots ruin the game, and therefor my fun, period

 

[0pin]

Originally posted by klavrynd


and that makes you a better person?

buffbots ruin the game, and therefor my fun, period

No it does not make me a better person it was my defence for you people calling people who use buffbot's for leet nolife people, and i tried to explain that in my experince its the ohter way around....you guys can discuss buffbots as much as you want mythic are not gonna ban them, and in the meantime we are gonna have fun and you people are gonna be pissed of all the time telling everyone how useing buffs takes no skill....bleh :/

How about you guys started doing something you like instead of complaining about a subject all the time that you can be sure is in no way gonna be fixed....

 

[old.Patrick-S]

it might get fixed.. depends if mythic cares more about buffbot subscriptions or new players and the game.. imo for a game to be really sucessful theyd have to care about the game and how good it is over getting more money... and its the addicted players who dont approve of paying extra money irl simply to enhance your character? whatever and no im not saying all buffbot users are 'leet no life people' as i know nothing about them irl and im sure they are nice people etc and i dont hate everyone who uses a buffbot.. BUT using a buffbot does mean your at least trying to be 'leet' otherwise why the hell would you use one? for fun? if i get a solo kill scouting for my group and im buffed i dont find it fun as i know i had an unfair advantage and yes buffbots are pissing me off because its a lame and immature thing to do which adds nothing to the game just ruins it for others imho
edit: also next patch is fixing it a bit if only on assasins even if only indirectly... thank goodness evading 5 styled swings in a row just sucks

 

[0pin]

Hey maed, as i said i like your arguments, but they questions you just asked have allready been answered...Yes a few people started useing a buffbot becuase they wanted to be better but if you ask most people useing a buffbot now its becuase its allready available to them either trough a friend who quit and they got their account or like my case where my gf allso has an account, why do i use a buffbot ? ok ill tell you again...i been going to the frontier for some time now and the amount of buffed up people is amazeing but instead of complaining about it i make it available to myself...not to be leet but to have fun again, instead of wasteing my time complaining.

And the evade nerf is not gonna hurt buffbot users as they can save the realm points you have to put into dodger to get evade at 50%

And no mythic is not gonna change buffbot rules, infact they just made it so that you can run 2 accounts from same computer....

Yes buffbots screw up balance 1vs1 and i wish it wasnt possible to have buffbots, but it is, and im not gonna spend the little spare time i have complaining about getting "owned" all the time...
And maed i do like you alot, you have a nice humour and a funny guy allways happy ingame, but why do you people spend so much time and energy on something negative when this is supposed to be something you do to have fun ?

A very good friend of mine ingame once said something to me when i got really pissed about immature players : its a game its a game its a game its a game...it actually helps

 

[hrodelbert]

Originally posted by nemesisgm


Nope Bubble, I'm not a malmo Kobbie, I made hardly any xp in malmo, I soloed most of my xp post lvl40 in spind.

And Yes Hrod its been far to long since we had a good fight... cause you've always got a 50 man LoE zerg following you around

D.

hehe we both know i don't go round in more than 2fg's where ever i can help it... but then again i'd have to be solo really for you to attack... i'll do some solo excal runs then this week i guess

 

[old.willowywicca]

Solution to buffbots:
Roll more champions!!

Champion == instant buffbot neutralisation. It takes all of 0.325 seconds to cast all 3 champ debuffs, which effectively remove all but the af buffs (which seem to have minimal effect) that buffbots provide their users...

 

[hrodelbert]

Originally posted by old.willowywicca
Solution to buffbots:
Roll more champions!!

Champion == instant buffbot neutralisation. It takes all of 0.325 seconds to cast all 3 champ debuffs, which effectively remove all but the af buffs (which seem to have minimal effect) that buffbots provide their users...

the mgs should cleanse people of all buffs from external sources
might stop PK camping too

 

[Artemls]

Originally posted by 0pin
Maedhros :
Its my experince that its the people who keep talking about buffbots that are the addicted ones, we ohters just wanna have fun.

Got to laugh about this comment. Think alot of players try to have fun but people using buffbot ruin some of it. Guess you think aimbot are ok also if you play a FPS game.

 

[old.willowywicca]

Originally posted by hrodelbert


the mgs should cleanse people of all buffs from external sources
might stop PK camping too

hmm actually, why not make everyone within the guard perimeter of pks get teleported back to their homeland autmatically every 10 minutes.. of course this whould make the homelanders (ie hibs since everyone rvrs in emain ) still able to keep their buffbots.. the beginnings of a solution tho maybe?

 

[Falcon]

I tried going to emain without my buff bot the other day. Jumped a 1.6mill or so rp buffbotted scout, was kicking the hell outta him then along game some 1mill rp pally and a buff botted 2.3mill inf too. Needless to say I died, but if I'd used my buff bot I could've dropped one for definite, maybe even 2 of them before dying myself. I only have 700k rps so I fail to see why I'd be called unskilled for using a buffbot when I could've dropped upto two and definetely one much higher RR buffbotted players with the 3 beating on me?

Also quite disturbed by the amount of people here claiming they despite and would never touch buffs from a buffbot when in fact I know full well they've either a) Taken buffs from my buffbot, b) Had a thousand buffs fly of them when they die and when there's been little else around, i.e. camping APK Odin's, not seen any Albs for hours, Inf comes out, I kill, buffs fly off. If you're gonna post about hating buffbots at least admit you use one or a friends despite hating them.

I wouldn't mind just returning to try again and again and not give up either Blaien but not all of us can just slap a medal on and go afk for 5mins waiting for a port. A perilous 10 - 15min run from Ligen to AMG is slightly more tedious.

Fact is it's nigh on impossible to get a group as a ranger in Hib, and Alb/Mid stealthers never travel alone, either in zergs or in stealth groups of 2 - 8 and more often than not, fully buffed (Always in fact if in a group of 3/4+, guess this is down to the fact that at least 1 in 3/4 Infs/SBs owns a buffbot). If I'm going to survive any chance against zergfils/buffils I'm left with little choice and can still have fun myself. If enemy stealthers want me to lose my buffs they have to a) Lose theirs and b) Learn to solo not gank.

 

[0pin]

Originally posted by Artemls


Got to laugh about this comment. Think alot of players try to have fun but people using buffbot ruin some of it. Guess you think aimbot are ok also if you play a FPS game.

Hey artemis im not trying to to be unpolite here, but if you read my entire post you will find out that i dont think its ok and i dont like the way its evolved but my point was that im not gonna sit down and cry over it but try to make the best of it....and if i played a game where i was very dissatisfied about something i knew never would change i would move on instead of complain day in and day out and be mad all day long...
Played this game since day 1 i like it very much and buffbots is not gonna ruin it for me so i use my old main to help out...

As for Aimbot, daoc is the only game i ever played and will be the only one i ever play so have no idea what you talk about...

 

[kain_pravus]

Yeah buff bots ruin alot of the fun, I've been hitting the american dev forums ... alot of us want some kind of range added (make it a huge range) .

With mythic making it so you can run multiple instances of the game on one pc pretty much shows there gr££dy idiots not too concerned about the state of the game aslong as they can squeese maximum revenue from people.

But this is a MMORPG, the player base dictates future developments of the game... which is why people have to right to state their opions against buff bots (I'm fed up with people telling others to shut up).

all I can say tho is ok state your opions here... if you want to make changes to the game, head over to ...

http://vnboards.ign.com/board.asp?brd=5176 (dev forum)

http://vnboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=41260448&replies=270 (offical buff bots thread)

 

[Falcon]

The question is, how long a range do you make them, like, long enough for all the Infs camping AMG to keep their buffs from PK? Or long enough to use a buff bot to defend a keep? It's a tough one but as long as any solution that's created doesn't mean people have the buff benefit from their PK compared to the defending realm running all the way from their BK (Which timed buffs would allow - attackers would be allowed buff bots, defenders not essentially) then I'd be happy to support it.

 

[Spinky]

Originally posted by old.Emma


thats prolly because SB`s are one of 10 classes available in mid that actually not gimped..

Hunter/Thane/Warrior are gimped classes for RvR.

thanes have low hp and there primary offense there spells are on a timer :/ unless they use mjollnir (mezz breaker elite)

I neglected to mention there were 116 Level 50 Thanes also, just one less than the shadowblade population

 

[old.Patrick-S]

ok xest after your post yes i used your buffbot once when we went to kill purple kelegur but i can accept pve buffbots but rvr ones do really really annoy me lol and also i think twice ever ive been buffed by a buffbot/retired druid on 2nd account when im in a group without a druid and i didnt feel good for it im just being honest i have cancelled buffs i get given at ligen .. once yesterday and again today ok final thing as ive repeated myself a million times .. however you excuse it or say why using a buffbot is selfish and noone can say otherwise if they think about it

 

[0pin]

Yes useing a bot is selfish, but all i want you to see is that (and you should know this as a shade) 99% of all infils and sb's we kill in emain drops shitloads of buffs, and its to a point where its no fun anymore. Now we are left with 2 choices, we can whine our asses of to mythic (which is allready a lost case) or we can give in and start playing buffed...i chose number 2.
I like what kain_pravus
is doing and im gonna go over there tomorrow and help /bump and voice my opinin...but until mythic is forced to look at it im gonna have fun aswell.

 

[Dook_Pug]

I agree, using a bot is selfish. However, I only play this game for my own enjoyment and quite frankly couldn't care less whether someone else enjoys getting ganked by my 'leet skillz' (ha).

I enjoy being buffed to the gills and I will continue to be buffed to the gills until it's no longer possible.

 

[old.Iunliten]

You forgot:" I also drive a porsche to extend my penis", dook.

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by old.Iunliten
You forgot:" I also drive a porsche to extend my penis", dook.

Well no, I didn't forget that because it doesn't apply to me.

Ofcourse, if that's what you want to believe to feel a little better about yourself then by all means, believe it.

 

[Vim]

Yeah i mean, my Cave Shammy is such a buffbot

 

[old.Patrick-S]

i wasnt talking about all shamans/druids/clerics even ones with 50 augmentation/nurture/enhancment wouldnt bother me if they buff the people in their group and PLAY their character not sit in a pk

 

[agraucred]

Originally posted by old.Emma
because by doing that the dedicated buffbot accounts will get closed there for mythic will loose money. NO! company wants to loose money even if it means ignoring there customers, which from previous experiance mythic are good at.

i have to disagree with this, mainly because of the ability (in 1.60?) to have the game running twice on the same comp, opening up buff bots for anyone who can afford another account (not much really). but take this into consideration. 75% of a servers players get a second account for a buff bot, the server goes above its capacity and is full at peak times, and often none peak. players get pissed off that they cant play there main character because of players running the game twice, people quit (at the same time Mythic/Goa will HAVE to open up new servers simply because the current ones are full), the game gets a bad rep... hmmm, Legend of Mir? if mythic dont give buffs a range/duration/group members only any time soon they are going to loose some serious cash, more so than just second accounts being closed!

 

[old.Enigma]

I think we should all go and make a push on Kains thread. Kain as its your message can you post another thread to advertise where people can support it?

 

[Gallak]

thought the multiple instances thing was for the same account on different servers?

 

[agraucred]

apparently not, trying to log in an account thats in game produces an "account logged in" message, but for a second account the game apparently loads up fine in a second window. so one other thought... spies?! i see people whining on BW forums about realm spies in the not so distant future. relic raids will never be successful again!

 

[case-rigantis]

my 2p buffbots suck for rvr...anyone who uses them is just lame and a pathetic waste of space

the only argument people com e up with is

"everyone else uses em so whay shouldn`t I?"

do 2 wronges make a right?

just say no to buffbots the more who say no the more it`ll spread..your only cheating yourself of the fun and excitment of beating an equal opponent

course you`ll always have the l33t kiddies who think it`s great just owning everyone but well thats something they`ll need to com` to terms with once they discover real life

 

[Dook_Pug]

Originally posted by case-rigantis
my 2p buffbots suck for rvr...anyone who uses them is just lame and a pathetic waste of space

the only argument people com e up with is

"everyone else uses em so whay shouldn`t I?"

do 2 wronges make a right?

just say no to buffbots the more who say no the more it`ll spread..your only cheating yourself of the fun and excitment of beating an equal opponent

course you`ll always have the l33t kiddies who think it`s great just owning everyone but well thats something they`ll need to com` to terms with once they discover real life

Your ignorance (and the ignorance of alot of people in this post) is astounding.

I don't think buffbots are wrong, I own a buffbot. I do so to make the game more enjoyable and playable FOR ME.

That's my argument. I don't care if anyone else uses a buffbot.

I'm not '1337'. I don't want to be '1337'. I want to have fun.

You talk about real life? Wake up little boy. If you think everyone IRL is on equal terms; they're not. People seek advantages to make their lifes easier and more enjoyable, it's no different in DAoC.

Try again.

 

[-mk-]

Originally posted by Dook_Pug


Your ignorance (and the ignorance of alot of people in this post) is astounding.

I don't think buffbots are wrong, I own a buffbot. I do so to make the game more enjoyable and playable FOR ME.

you say you only care about your own fun and blame other people for their ignorance?

Try again i say