Ezteq said:kids beware..... i work in the place that makes plane parts
nuff said
sounds like bollocks to me mate. Many many people die every day on the roads, its rare anyone (excluding military personnel in service) dies in the air or on the ground (thwack). Its also safest in terms of the number of safe journies:number of fatal journies.Pippic said:flying is only the safest form of travel if u count the accident per mile/km ratio.
Job said:Flying is the safest form of travel for miles travelled
i.e. how many people die per million miles.
Scary thing thing is that in a million miles of motorcycle travel, your chance of dying is 50%.
Ctuchik said:so in live/death ratio on car crashes versus plane crashes. then the cars have a better live ratio...
Chilly said:sounds like bollocks to me mate. Many many people die every day on the roads, its rare anyone (excluding military personnel in service) dies in the air or on the ground (thwack). Its also safest in terms of the number of safe journies:number of fatal journies.
Job said:Flying is the safest form of transport by statistic.Correct.
Job said:When you are at 30,000 ft in an Aeroplane the ONLY way for you to survive the flight is for EVERY control surface to work 100% to get you down.complete bolx mate. Planes have been landed with virtually no control surfaces active. This can be achieved by varying thrust of each engine or both. Won't go into specifics as it would take too long. But believe me it has been done and pilots are trained how to do it. To even get to the stage of no control surfaces you would have to loose dual redundant hydralic systems. The only time this has happened in a modern aircraft was when the aircraft lost all electrical power. Even then all modern aircraft have backup instruments (Altimeter/Compass etc) that require no power to function. Added to that there is usually a RAT (RAM Air Turbine) which drops on loss of power. This is a small generator that can provide enough power for emergency use. Aircraft are tested for these conditions.
Also aviation grade fuel does not catch fire that easily. You have to mix it with air to ignite it. It's quite the same as petrol.
The reason the Aircraft crashed at Sioux was a rather unlucky heavy crosswind. The pilots had done a bloody good job up to that point. The safty report, which I read at the time, stated that they over corrected and lost control. Still they managed to line up and get down to the airfield without control surfaces. Hence my comment still stands. It is possible and has been done.Job said:'Also aviation grade fuel does not catch fire that easily. You have to mix it with air to ignite it. It's quite the same as petrol.'
You mean oxygen, well you know when the plane crashes and the fuel spills out, I think you'll find a slight 'exposure to air' going on there.
And as for landing without control surfaces, tell that to the passengers of the American flight that crash landed at Sioux airport after the tail engine exploded and cut through the triple back up hydraulics, which were running through the same goddam conduit. They lost the rudder and rear aerilons and guess what, they tried engine thrust for control, but hit the ground at 250 mph and cartwheeled on fire 3X down the runway.
Flying is so safe it's ridiculous, one year in America there wasn't a single plane crash, over a million take off and landings, quite incredible safety record.