[Official] Clustering Thread

[Ashnor]

Voted yes, I hope rvr will get alot better at least than what its like on pryd now.
Only think I find really bad is 1 english server, will probally cause alot of problems to the new players.. I know how many times I have deleted chars to move realm and I had 2 servers to switch between.

 

[Ibilic]

Voted Yes.

there are so few groups on both pryd and excal, and it gets booring fast fighting the same people night after night .

And i dont see why not both casual and more hardcore players would enjoy clustering. Set grps get more other set grps to fight, and casual players get larger zergs to hide in, win - win ?

Also it would be alot easier / more fun for new people starting daoc if they actually have someone to play with at lower lvls

 

[Elkie]

Voted yes but concerned bout lag issues tbh

 

[Overdriven]

Voted yes...

1) Larger 'warfare'
2) Want revenge on some friends on Alb/Excal

 

[Osri]

Said yesh cause gib more guild grps to fight with. And screw teh pve, its shit anyways in this game.

 

[Xxcalibur]

votes yes


.I want some action at NO prime time in prydwen . totally dead for Non stealthers classes atm
.I want loads of GG roaming around in different zones , not only brynja.

If u vote NO , You vote for keep roleplaying during all day except a few hours on week.

 

[Ailish]

Voted no

I already have enough trouble affording the scrolls and bits that I want as a casual player and that's on Pryd where prices are lower. I don't see prices dropping because there is more availability I see prices rising because person A sees the item they have to sell on person B's CM for a hefty price and raises their price to meet it...

 

[Elendar]

Voted yes, know a lot of friends who would come back for clustering, would make exping a little easier for new players with more around, and would make rvr much better, allow roaming rvr and fights away from bridges to pick up a lot
server pops on both are much too low
bounty points can't be sustained on alb or mid pryd, and quite likely on excal
but mostly to make the game much more fun instead of searching for ages to find a good fight

 

[Cadiva]

Voted no because I think limiting anyone to only one realm is a really bad idea and certainly wouldn't attract me to come and play DAoC.

Also, I don't think clustering is the correct solution to the problem of not enough people on the English language servers in the first place.

Advertise the game more and you'd stand a far better chance of getting more people playing.

It's bad enough at the moment that if someone on the English language servers wants to play all three realms they have to have at least two accounts or go play on a server where they may not know the language.

 

[Xxcalibur]

Voted no

I already have enough trouble affording the scrolls and bits that I want as a casual player and that's on Pryd where prices are lower. I don't see prices dropping because there is more availability I see prices rising because person A sees the item they have to sell on person B's CM for a hefty price and raises their price to meet it...

if u have problems with scrolls u should now 2 things :

1. next patch : more chance to get scrolls ( example : u have chance to get mad tales in ALL the mobs in typhons reach)
2. With clustering capital cities u will be able to trade scrolls with players of pryd/ excal

 

[Gilth]

ok had enough of this sheat really.... give cluster or not and stop biatching around omfg i am really tired... 2 polls and now another is inc I guess...


regards,
runsya-hib/pryd
siktfil-alb/exc

 

[Shanaia]

the zerg will surely spread out over more zone's/keeps.

dream on

 

[Vireb]

voted yes, and i too know lots of people who will come back with clustering

 

[Thadius]

Voted no

I already have enough trouble affording the scrolls and bits that I want as a casual player and that's on Pryd where prices are lower. I don't see prices dropping because there is more availability I see prices rising because person A sees the item they have to sell on person B's CM for a hefty price and raises their price to meet it...

The reason I voted no too

 

[Shanaia]

if u have problems with scrolls u should now 2 things :

1. next patch : more chance to get scrolls ( example : u have chance to get mad tales in ALL the mobs in typhons reach)
2. With clustering capital cities u will be able to trade scrolls with players of pryd/ excal

so you vote yes but you still don't have a clue what it really means do you?

Clustering just NF still means that you can travel to all the zones on both servers ... so with your Pryd/hib char you can go visit Excal/hib housing zone.

 

[Sardine]

You'll find that lots of people have renewed thier accounts/or talking about renewing for clustering, if it doesnt go ahead alot of people will go and play the sims instead

 

[Xxcalibur]

so you vote yes but you still don't have a clue what it really means do you?

Clustering just NF still means that you can travel to all the zones on both servers ... so with your Pryd/hib char you can go visit Excal/hib housing zone.

more ppl to trade i mean :O is the same lol

 

[bigchief]

voted Yes

Alot of people will come back with clustering and with so many people in frontiers hopefully action will be spread over more than one zone.

In OF if emain was zerged you could go odins/hw and have fun, some of the lower rr groups even played there to avoid insta death to the rr10's.

In NF everyone goes to the same 2 places and just camp. To get more action elsewhere we need more people.

Also having more people for some of the pve elements such as ML raids will be a bonus as higher chances of success (especially on the currently smaller pryd raids) and more raids as more people ;o

 

[Sparda]

No here.... while clusting would be good i dont see why the brits should only get the choice of 1 realm to play on. Its 1/3 of the game for the same fee....

If at the reacent E3 expo mythic/GoA said they were gunna release a new MMO but stated the brittish only get to play 1/3 of the game.... it would never see the light of day.

 

[DavidH]

Also having more people for some of the pve elements such as ML raids will be a bonus as higher chances of success (especially on the currently smaller pryd raids) and more raids as more people ;o

Thats also one of the main factors for why I voted yes. We really need more people so we can get more raids. The way it looks now on pryd is pretty crap. If you miss a raid nowadays, you're pretty much screwed for up to several weeks, even months on stuff like ML4, ML9 that requires a quite decent zerg.

 

[Ctuchik]

i voted no. and the only reason i did so was because i like to reroll to diffrent realms on excal while still having my main on mid/pryd.

and IMO, if clustering WILL happen. then i wanna see a option to transfer my account to US (not gonna happend tho). why? because thats where i will be re-rolling when/if we get clustering here. i refuse to accept that someone else will tell me where i can and cant play (without deleting every toon on my account) more then they already done as we cant have chars on all 3 realms at the same time on one account (and no i dont count camlann as thats a pretty worthless argument in this case) . sure i suppose i could roll on a german or a french server. but as english is my only secondary language thats pretty fking pointless.


this is THE worst idea ever!

make us able to reroll on other realms without having to delete the whole account and im all for clustering. but never as it stands now.



and just a question to all u ppl that "needs" more ppl to rvr with/against. if thats what u want, then why go post all those "anti-zerg" whines on the rvr boards? because clustering WILL bring zerging back to what it was in old emain at its worst.


its just way to many downsides compared to the one single possitive point Requiel pointed out.

 

[MaditioN]

votes yes, 250 ppl as you say req is like 2 zergs and 2-3 full groups roaming, my idea of fun aint fighting same groups for 5-6hours, its fighting SEVERAL groups, and for that we need cluster, and if no cluster, LOTS of ppl will cancel subs(including myself) and then it will drop even more, and the feature is dead.

 

[Shanaia]

ML9 that requires a quite decent zerg.

I was on all those ml9 raids and we had more then enough people ... but some people didn't listen to instructions because they knew better and fucked things up for the others ... we'll fail again with 300 people if we don't learn how to work together and listen to raidleaders.

 

[sneakies]

I also voted yes.

The prydwen pop is forever in a state of flux between omgoose primetime of 800! to rar, 500 ppl primetime, yey.

So i'd quite like to have that uber population that i personally hope will bring alot of activity into other areas of the game (not just RVR! I'm thinking more along the lines for raids and such).

I think the main concern many people have though is the Artifact situation. Some smart ass (who should be sat in a dark corner for a weekend to contemplate what they did wrong) thought it was a good idea to:

a) make artifact encounters either
i) not drop the arti every kill
ii) have a respawn rate of in excess of half a day (real time)

I think the respawn should (and could) be fixed to have a maximum respawn time of 6 hours (thus creating a greater frequency with which people can get an artifact without spending a whole day sat their twiddling their thumbs and slowly ebbing towards the padded wall state on mentality). This would ofcourse go hand in hand _without_ a drop rate nerf.


//edit:

Also with the clustering of servers i would assume Excal/Pryd GM's would then become merged and active on *one* server, allowing myself to be lured into the false sense that when something goes wrong... a GM can be alerted a little quicker than 3hrs later.

 

[Osri]

Make own server for those pve freakz who roll new 50 char every week imo

 

[robbe]

atm on prydwen theres like only one or two grps worth fighting.. some purple hibs and maybe some other hib grp... give more hardcore rvr grps :x

if more elite guilds on same server we can leave zerg zone and fights vs each other in empty zone

 

[[NO]Subedai]

voted yes because I would like to chain grapple certain tanks on mid/exc

hmm..


anyway ye give cluster :d

 

[Twin]

well seems like GOA dont want to cluster, or maybe they really not sure about do it or not as seems cant go back after done, if is the second reason then dont see the point of keep asking when seems a huge mayority of people want cluster done.


Abous why YES to cluster, well there is lot of stuff i think why it should happend;

RvR;

- will give more groups avaiables around, and with luck not only GG but some random ones where to join your "group toons" that you usually cant play as cant commiment to a GG all the days.

- with luck will make lots of more places where to go as a stealther and not only 1 simple bridge full of stealth zerg, ok now maybe get into 4 bridges full of stealth zerg , still always better to can go to different places.

- with the incoming path, seems towers can be destroyed that just means that zergs will be a bit harder to keep up, as will dont have a undestructible site where to hide for ever, and without an increase in the population, i just looking like non usually group classes (animists, valewalkers, gimped bb, etc etc) that some poeple enjoy playing in rvr will not be able to even go to rvr.

- LOTS of poepel just return back just to prepare their toons or get used to them again looking forward the cluster, another LOTS returned back from wow becuase of the same, if cluster dont happend will make them all go away from daoc again for sure, and will be lots of more peopel going from daoc if cluster dont happend than if it does for sure.


NON RvR;

- Lots of raids goign around, not only toa but with luck some galladoria raids etc.

- more peopel to maybe try and up a new toon or a lvl20 one by old way and not only pling them

- Lots of more items around in merchant and with luck with a not huge increase in the price and well i would say more surely lots of them lower in prices.
Prydwen situation atm is just very bad, people only look about the numbers lately and the ones in NF, and they dont realise that mostly of them are there waiting for the "RvR Clustering", yes as mostly of them likes to rvr.... but then if you look more carefully into the realm you will see that is dead, you only need to go to merchant and see like NONE galladoria stuff around, you can see like NONE full respec stone being sold, and if there is any will be just 1 at 20plats! rofl.... and you say excalibut will up prices? i thikn peopel need to check their eyes..... in prydwen the prices is already more expensive that excalibur in i would say mostly of things...... in excalibur you can find lots of respec at 10-15p where in hib there is just none where to buy one... and if there is any for 20p...... scrolls there is lot of expensive ones in prydwen that in excalibur are cheaper etc etc etc.


About communitys well.... we are in 2005 think, we arent anymore in medieval times, of course i know they community are different and maybe we will not like some of the people of the other realm, still every server will keep their own alliance channels (seems like in cluster you cant join into any of the other server guilds so you cant join to any of the other server alliance), and still well..... if in the humanity history peopel would of not done things becuase of fear, we will be still here waiting to discover america..... i prefer to try out cluster willing to things improve in the game and then see things goes bad.... that just keep here looking becuase of the fear of the other community and never know how things would of gone with the cluster.



Well i voted yes, if things goes bad of course i will feel bad still i feel like we need to try it out as think we will win more that we can lose.


Laterrr

 

[Litmus]

voted yes.

Atm the prime time populations may be around those numbers your quoted. How ever if you decide not to add clustering i can tell you now... expect those numbers to fall quicker then a comet from outta space, i know i and many other will cancel if that is the case.

the only reason my account is active atm is only in the hope that clustering arrives.

 

[Seanpaul]

Voted no. Large scale battles even on prydwen are unplayable for quite a handful of people including myself, clustering would make it a lot worse and cause many to leave the game, left WoW for this reason and playing only 30mins of MxO frustrated me enough.
EDIT: also i prefer small grouped combat which is almost dead cuz of the speed of death caused by casters due to ToA, this'll be the final nail unless i roll a stealther and just leech everything.