[Official] Clustering Thread

[Awarkle]

voted no because i got a heretic on albion prydwen and a shaman on midgard excalibur.

I enjoy both realms being separate as when i tire of one realm i can go to the other.

As long as they stick in a 15 min limit on logging in i wont mind but tbh rvr seemed fine from when i logged in.

I still cant see why we couldnt cluster with a french or german server but i understand the clients are actually different. Which is a shame

 

[rampant]

Voted NO - Server population is still healthy on both servers - I want to be able to play on multiple realms - to try other chars when i want to - not have to wait an hour to swap.

I would only vote yes if they introduced a server where i could play on any realm - NOT PVP like camlann tho.

 

[Tesla Monkor]

Also with the clustering of servers i would assume Excal/Pryd GM's would then become merged and active on *one* server, allowing myself to be lured into the false sense that when something goes wrong... a GM can be alerted a little quicker than 3hrs later.

That isn't the case at the moment. The 'one gm per server' thing has been ditched months ago. GMs are looking after all the servers at once, now.

 

[Minau]

Voted NO - Server population is still healthy on both servers - I want to be able to play on multiple realms - to try other chars when i want to - not have to wait an hour to swap.

I acually think the 1 hour thingie can be healthy, give u time to go do
sumting else, eat, go out in the sun, call ur friends, whatever.

and a big NO NO on the "healthy servers" thingie, wich servers do u play ? Oo

 

[robbe]

voted yes.

Atm the prime time populations may be around those numbers your quoted. How ever if you decide not to add clustering i can tell you now... expect those numbers to fall quicker then a comet from outta space, i know i and many other will cancel if that is the case.

the only reason my account is active atm is only in the hope that clustering arrives.

Yep, set grp rvr on prydwen will be gone if/when no cluster promises :x

 

[sneakies]

voted no because i got a heretic on albion prydwen and a shaman on midgard excalibur.

I enjoy both realms being separate as when i tire of one realm i can go to the other.

As long as they stick in a 15 min limit on logging in i wont mind but tbh rvr seemed fine from when i logged in.

I still cant see why we couldnt cluster with a french or german server but i understand the clients are actually different. Which is a shame

Didn't know you'd done the dirty and deleted ur ani again warky

Come back before its tooo late!

 

[Gungo]

Voted yes

 

[Elrandhir]

well my though is that clustering is needed, or will be as an game gets older pop will decrease.

Some says it is ok atm, well maby it is somewhat, but still it will get worse, and on some espects it have never been as bad as it is atm, as can be expected though, as Daoc aint that young on the market anylonger.

So yes is my vote in this matter, and from my experience.

Daoc will probably never gain all to many new players again, if they don´t make a followup, or some other drastic thing, that would make some old players quit instead, or probably would ;P

 

[elisera]

Voted no again as I don't think things have got bad enough yet to warrant it. In my opinion people who think the dynamics of RVR will change with the fights being more spread out etc are fooling themselves. Groups will still go to the same places they always have in NF, now there will just be more of them.

Then there is the matter of the prices on CM's. The prices for alot of things on Excal are still ridiculously high as a lot of people have pointed out long before now, it is inevitable that if the servers are clustered Prydwens prices will raise to match them. Greed is the same no matter which server you play on so why would you sell something for only 5P on Pryd when it is for sale for 12P on Excal?

I also worry about the potential new players who won't want to play on one realm only. It's ok saying they will never know what they are missing but how many people can honestly say they would have stuck with this game as long as they have without the opportunity to at least try the other realms. Our guild have already lost a few good friends who just started playing to the US servers as they hated the thought of being so limited when they are paying the same subs fees as everyone else.

I have always tended to stick to one realm and server but I have rolled and rerolled on the other quite a few times as the notion takes me but I know I certainly can't afford another account just to be able to play on the other server occasionally if clustering happens...

Thats just my opinion though

 

[Sugah]

Voted no because excalibur will pretty much kill off prydwen and theres no need both servers are active enough.

 

[Nored]

Voted no - I rather keep Prydwen and Excalibur as they are:

They are both active enough, so no reason for more people on a clustered server
CM prices are high already, I rather keep them at this level, then having them even higher.
And I like to Prydwen Community much more then the Excalibur Community (yes, Indeed, I said: Let those excal foks stay on their own server (this don't mean all ppl who are playing on Excal, but it is true that Prydwen community is much better)

Greetings,

Nored

 

[balkeriz]

First of all the (small) realm Hibs arent small anymore. They are more active than any other realm in RvR and they are atleast as many online as the mids so why i votet "Yes" is because maybe we can have some ballance agani adn trow that redicules and stupid idea of underpopulation away and take them as a god damn realm as all other ffs. We are all needed to be trade equally and not give some stupid realm some bonus pts because they arent to many online. Itys thair problem and i see a possible opertonaty in that if we remove underpopulation we can get some moral back to this Unballanced game as it is...........

 

[chretien]

Voted no.
The main reason that people are saying they are voting yes is because there will be more guild uber groups running. RvR is not and never has been about uber groups. The percentage of the population that plays this way is tiny compared to the vast mass of the rest of us who will lose out as a result of clustering.

 

[Shafu]

I voted yes for clustering.

The main reason is to get more soloers/small groups in the frontier and/or spread out the action. Ideally, this could be fixed by adding some infrastruture to NF, but that's never going to happen, so the only way to bring more life to the frontier is to add more people. Hopefully this will overpopulate the Dock keeps so much that people will spread out and use the remaining 94% of the frontier (on a regular basis).

 

[Downanael]

Yes x 5


That should flush the "char rollers out"

 

[Sandariel]

I'd vote no if I could (But I can't since I got a german OS and whenever I try to vote I can only vote for german servers, even if I change the language options and the location etc to UK =/ )

Anyway, asking this question here is kinda dull, since like 80% of the people posting here are rvr active fg gank group people and about 20% of them are casual gamers (yes, that's a guess but the numbers should be roughly like that, prolly even less casual gamers ) This way you'll miss all those Joe Average's on the server who never post on FH (And you'd be surprised, there's a lot of them)

Playing on prydwen since release I think clustering will really mess up Prydwens economy, making it even worse to get the arties I want as a casual gamer. Might be selfish, but I'm just as selfish as the gank group people here

Why cluster now? You can always cluster later, but you cannot go back once clustering happened. The servers Mythic merged had a LOT less population than prydwen has at the moment. Why does everyone want insta-clustering?

I really don't like the thought of having to decide on 2 realms now. I'll never be able to play midgard if I chose to play hib on excal now, which kinda sucks. Well, being german I at least got the option to start over on a german server, but I'd really prefer not to. If clustering goes live though I guess I'd either quit the game completely or reroll on german servers (which I, as I already said wouldn't enjoy doing, the whole game just sounds... wrong in german, don't enjoy it at all).

RvR is fine at the moment imo. If there's no RvR happening on excal at 2 pm on a thursday and no RvR happening on Prydwen at 2 pm on a thursday, you really think there will be loads of active FG RvR once they're clustered? Que?

Whatever, since I can't vote anyway and most people here are FG Gank Group RvR people feel free to tear this post apart and flame me to hell and back, I'll do as I always did in this game: I'll just adapt and face the consequences. And if that means rerolling on Lyonesse or something then... be it. =(

I just feel sorry for the poor newbies who only speak english and don't have that choice and who'll be forced to stick to one realm forever. Guess in the long term this would hurt population even more than no clustering, since the influx of new players will be even less than it is at the moment.

If I was a newbie and I'd know I can only play on one realm in EU I'd just order the US version instead of limiting my gaming experience on EU.

Just my 2 cents etc.

 

[Xxcalibur]

Voted no.
The main reason that people are saying they are voting yes is because there will be more guild uber groups running. RvR is not and never has been about uber groups. The percentage of the population that plays this way is tiny compared to the vast mass of the rest of us who will lose out as a result of clustering.

if u think like u said u must be a loser irl

 

[Box4m]

Voted NO - Server population is still healthy on both servers - I want to be able to play on multiple realms - to try other chars when i want to - not have to wait an hour to swap.

I would only vote yes if they introduced a server where i could play on any realm - NOT PVP like camlann tho.

makes me sad irl lols

 

[Rami]

Voted yes, some days on prydwen are ok for RvR.
Other days it's just sad

 

[raid]

as a mostly rvr player i voted yes even though the pve zone changes and 1hour timer are really really bad thing (except for more mlraids ofc)... i find it hard to believe its impossible to fix it somehow.

 

[Jjuraa]

youd have to be insane to vote no for clustering, if you come from prydwen. do you not understand? most of pryds regular GGs atm are only here because theyre anticipating cluster, soon as it goes, the GGs go.

and whats the bet that as soon as GOA say no cluster, and the population takes a nosedive, you very same people who voted no start crying "ffs mythic look at population, why arent we clustered you never do anything right".

 

[pjuppe]

voted yes. the last cpl of days i played there was only the (unmoving) zerg to fight

also think there will be lots of ppl dropping if the clusters do not come.

 

[Downanael]

Wonder how much normal players will be hated if clustering dont happen because no won. Also cant believe how the "new players cant play 3 realms waa waa" works as there is no new players,i cant even remember seeing one for last year

I vote with my cash atleast.

 

[Edlina]

Voted yes

Basically only intersted in RvR myself, PvE is just something that needs to be done with, and the faster the better.

The fun of this game (any online game) for me is to play against other players because playing against players means there's an infinite amount of actions your enemy can take. The randomness of fighting new people, new groups and every fight being different in one way or the other is what makes a game continuously fun and avoids the repetition of playing against computer mobs who always act the same - scripted - way (more or less).

Repetition gets boring which is why I find PvE extremely boring and RvR very fun, but lately (ever since NF basically) Prydwen RvR has been boring as well. NF changed the game, for better or for worse (imo worse but nvm that) and the new RvR zones are bigger and considerably more spread out when it comes to action in them, that is why we need clustering because after NF and the slow (massive with the launch of WoW) decrease of players playing RvR combined with the vastness of the zones (which if our servers get clustered can become considerably more active meaning there's a much better chance for everyone - zergs, fgvsfg ppl, 'randoms' & soloers - to find the rvr they crave) made RvR and thus (for me) daoc boring.

Give clustering! It's better to prevent a disaster (dead server(s) = loads of ppl will have left and when clustering finally happens it'll be too late) before it happens, that try to remedy the consequences of the disaster, after it happens.


Economy (which won't be too much of a shock, just prepare by making your items considerably more expensive (for prydwen players) and the inflation will barely be felt as you'll get lots of money for your items) is a side issue and I really could care less. Same goes for the different realms thing (what fun is it playing on all 3 realms if you can't do what's fun (RvR) on either). And quite frankly when it comes to new players I bet that most doesn't even make it to 50, and this could give them more of a chance to do that, it's not as if they'll miss being able to play on 2 realms as before they're gonna be 50 etc and feel a desire to try a new realm, as the way it is atm, they'll be bored to death with the lack of players to lvl with, the lack of being able to rvr and so on.

Give clustering! (the playerbase would, as others have mentioned see a considerable drop of active RvR'ers if it's announced that we won't get clustering)

As for saying that it's mainly the 'hardcore' RvR'ers (probably the ppl that spend the most time on the game as well) that visit FH, while that may be true (I reckon that it's not as unbalanced as you might presume based on the amounts of posts by those RvR'ers) then quite frankly clustering isn't gonna ruin non hardcore RvR'ers experience, more the contrary (gives a greater possibily for different kinds of RvR), and considering this is mainly a RvR issue I reckon it's sorta fair the ppl spending most time on RvR gets heard more than those who don't.

Personally I'll reactivate if we get clustering, but won't if we don't.

 

[vintervargen]

Voted yes - rather beeing zerged then never finding enemies to fight.

 

[Mnexxiz]

Voted no. Hib/Pryd ever since I started playing this game.
If it would be only RvR (and thus only one zone where to meet other server) it would be acceptable to me - after all more enemies the better.
But I don't want to get used to an even more increased level of abuse and grief and greed - after running a lot of raids this is at the moment the real reason why I think to leave.
I fear that clustering Prydwen with Excalibur will only add oil to the fire already raging.

I would like to see something to be done about the Midgard population. Apart from the game mechanics for which Mythic is responsible and GOA can't do a thing I think that the current boni on Prydwen are only helping to reduce the Mid population further and further.
Midgard should get a bonus for being an underpopulated realm too as they take substantially less realm points home week after week after week.

 

[Gahn]

Voted yes and i may come back in case finally Goa takes a decision about it, altho i'm very scared of the possible server lag with a FULL server (say 2000-2200 pop prime time).
Tbh i don't play tons of alts so np higher prices, givf ppl to fight in RvR.

 

[Ixnay]

This is the exact WRONG reason to vote yes...

Don't you see that voting no now doesn't mean that the servers won't be clustered ever? If what you say happens in deed happens surely the servers will be clustered. The whole idea behind clustering was to revive dead servers. Not to merge 2 living servers because they "might" die in the near future.

Prydwen and Excal are alive and well ... clustering wasn't designed for the situation the servers are in atm.

I voted no because I think it is shortsighted and simply not necesary yet.

Thats how I feel to be perfectly honest.

 

[Gamah]

if u think like u said u must be a loser irl

Yea HE'S obviously the loser here , Requiel said don't post if you don't have anything constructive to say..but as ususal your a 14yr old kid who can't listen to instructions.

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

I voted yes

I rather have something to fight insted of running around and only finding the same 1/2 set fgs all night or haveing to camp a bridge to kill random small grps who is running out, is borring over a longer period.

Give clustering and some more action