"Nuclear Emergency"

rynnor

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Hah sucker - you clearly didnt realise that Walt Patterson has spent over 30 years campaigning against nuclear power and is hyping the risk for his own purposes.

Edit - he was appointed Friends of the Earths first energy campaigner in 1972.
 

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Relax guys, this is your standard earthquake turns japan into post apocalyptic wasteland.
Next we get a meltdown of society, biker gangs, kids with freaky psychic powers and culminating in a new big bang.

Alternatively, it's a secret plot to develop tentacle demons.
 

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Oh, btw, it's just been reported by some beeb journalists that they've been stopped over 60km away from the plant, rather than the "official" 10.

I may link the BBC but you see to use as many braincells relaying it as they use reporting it, the 10KM is the evacuation range from the plant. The fact they've stopped a bunch of more people piling up in to an even larger area is nothing more than being smart and keeping a control on busy/dangerous area between that and the 10KM evacuation area.

You know a few of you are spouting shit like the media and seem to be hoping like them you get it right, in reality until it is officially announced you know nothing more than the DM.
 

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Sooo, read from a Finnish news site that the reactor protection shingading isn't damaged and the radiation is going down(accordig to japanese report).

No boom then, hefty buggers those plants.
 

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Nuclear power stations cannot cause a nuclear explosion. A conventional explosion, yes, but never nuclear.
 

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Nuclear power stations cannot cause a nuclear explosion. A conventional explosion, yes, but never nuclear.
Not directly, but they can provide the material for a nuclear bomb.
Pedantry, I know. :)
 

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Saw this posted on another forum:

Oh, I didn't spot this edit earlier and now I see your anti-nuclear agenda, which I don't have a problem with, as I am no fan of nuclear power.

However, I would be very careful in holding up this situation as an example of nuclear power not being safe, for many reasons not least the fact that this was a fairly old plant, nearing the end of its life, which appears to have survived the 5th or 6th (depending on sources) largest earthquake ever recorded since records began over 100 years ago.
 

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So...is it D0000m or is it safety measures doing what they are designed to do?
 

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Seems to be a catastrophe averted by good procedures and design...kind of what you would expect at a modern nuclear power station. A 40 year old power station can withstand one of the biggest quakes recorded and a tsunami and still be cooled safely. Just goes to show how safe nuclear power is when properly looked after!

Still, it's always funny to see people get swallowed up in the BBC fuelled scaremongering. Looking forward to the next pandemic of bird cold.
 

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So. No comment on the explosions/injuries/nuclear leaks/risk of meltdown at the Jap plant then Ctuchik?

Shit happens? :)

No but seriously, yes it's about as bad as it can get over there but it still isn't changing my standpoint. I much rather pay for semi-dirty electricity then have none at all because i couldn't pay for it.
 

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CNN? LOL! I've said enough. They are the jokers of news reporting.
 

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The article written there is actually pretty decent imho.
 

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Apart from inflammatory language like "racing".
 

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Yeah, ofcourse. It's american. The use words like war, race, etc a little different/more frequent.

Anyways, this would be a better source then?
 

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Yeah, ofcourse. It's american. The use words like war, race, etc a little different/more frequent.

Anyways, this would be a better source then?
I'd even consider them with a pinch of salt.
They'll play it down in public while working feverishly behind the scenes. Much like a swan is all graceful above the water, but the legs are swimming like mad underneath.

And the worst reporting (sorry to anyone employed by them) would have to be Fox News. NHK are playing it down, Reuters are trying to remain impartial but leaning towards sensationalism, Al-Jazeera are pretty level headed but the numbers don't agree with other agencies. The stand out one is Xinhua (Chinese national news)... their headline was "Japanese gov't confirms no blast occurs at troubled Fukushima reactor", putting a slant on the headline while reporting the facts in the article.


Anyone else notice the story about a family of 5 in the West Bank murdered in their house? I don't blame you if you missed it because it's well buried on BBC. It's #1 headline on Xinhua.
 

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Back. The classical music was rather excellent. As was my uncle, who was "the best in his row" ;)

So. What's the situation?

Erm. Not good. - Probable meltdown at two nuclear reactors. Casualties. The possibility of 160 locals being exposed to radiation. Japanese government preparing to distribute iodine tablets. Pumping seawater and boric acid into two of the reactors. Fears of a second explosion and "reports" of the Japanese ambassador to the US acknowledging if there is a complete and uncontrollable meltdown there's a risk of radiation exposure to the US west coast.

(I'll acknowledge that last one's a bit fanciful, and bound to be jumped on by people who have suddenly started demanding peer-reviewed levels of evidence to posts on a forum, but I saw the report so meh).

But still. Nothing to see here eh? :rolleyes:

Oh it may not happen. It's "a storm over nothing". I'm apparently using "exceptional circumstances" to justify an anti-nuclear stance.

Well yes. I am. Because "exceptional circumstances" is exactly where the nuclear issue has it's problems. Exceptional circumstances, whilst exceptional, do happen. And it simply isn't worth the risk.



BTW - Tom. Would you accept there've been "leaks" yet?

And rynnor, I'm not feeling the least bit silly.



Edit: An appearance by Godzilla would be kinda cool tho.
 

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We have a fuck load of experts on this forum like, it baffles me sometimes.
 

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Japanese government preparing to distribute iodine tablets.

Thats a standard pre-cautionary action if you have any fears of the possibility of a leak - flooding the body with iodine helps prevent the uptake of the extremely dangerous radioactive isotope of Iodine.

I stayed on Portland last summer and on the wall of our cottage was the details of what to do in case of a radioactive leak. Seems the harbour is being used to decommision various old nuclear subs.

If an alert sounds your meant to stay inside, close all windows and turn off the central heating (stops it sucking in the air) and wait for them to turn up with the Iodine tablets - needless to say this didnt occur during my stay :)
 

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Didn't really have that much to say about my post then eh rynnor?

Still not feeling silly :)
 

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I'm going to comment when the facts are known. Until then everything is speculation.

You need to get a grip Scouse. Nuclear power stations are perfectly safe. Go work on an oil rig if you don't agree.
 

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