Now that most of the whiners have left, the cluster seems pretty much alive and kicki

[Phule_Gubben]

And Manisch, please release another keyboardmovie, your first was lots of fun to watch, I still havent seen a worse player, that merc from US is a distant second compared to u

I use arrows to move around aswell, and yes I'm a noob. But you knew that already you old fartknocker

 

[noaim]

I use arrows to move around aswell, and yes I'm a noob. But you knew that already you old fartknocker

You dont make posts about how bad others/good u are though.

How are u btw? Hope ur weather is as good as it is here in Egypt...hihi

 

[[NO]Subedai]

You dont make posts about how bad others/good u are though.

How are u btw? Hope ur weather is as good as it is here in Egypt...hihi

I used arrows to move around also, bad habits dont break, was awful, had strafe as QW and arrows as well arrows.

anyway! What ur doing in Egypt u old gay!! even hotter place than spain!

 

[swords]

Thats why I called you Noobedai ^^

 

[[NO]Subedai]

Thats why I called you Noobedai ^^

call me prodai!

well i kinda stopped it when i played bard, with tanks u can kinda get away with it, but with any caster or support i guess its impossible. much more use of mouse.

 

[Phule_Gubben]

You dont make posts about how bad others/good u are though.

How are u btw? Hope ur weather is as good as it is here in Egypt...hihi

W00t are you still in egypt u bastard...

Weather is as expected, no snow, windy and some rain.

I'm great btw, our daughter is growing each day, she's 3.5 months now.

When are you coming back to cold Sweden??

 

[Bikkus]

Engage brain then post. Unless the limit of your thinking is the little bunch of pixels you see on your screen. The average zerger doesn't know one group from the next. We don't know if that fight in front of us is between 2 groups of like minded people simply out for their fair fights or 2 random groups of people. In fact, if they are in front of us then the assumption is that they can't be looking for "fair" fights else they wouldn't be loitering round the f*cking zerg. I'd say that's pretty bloody obvious. So once again, contrary to your own little egotistical view of the world, we aren't doing it to piss you off or because we are selfish. We are just playing the game as we do, as we've always done. Now if you were smart you wouldn't be f*cking around on the edge of the zerg in the first place - you'd be in Agramon. But that would require you to engage your brain - something which you've regularly demonstrated over the years isn't your strong point. Actually, why DO you regularly hang round the edge of the zergs? Was that something to do with the rps you mentioned?

Incidentally, to a hardcore roleplayer how people talked and what clothes they wore WOULD affect their enjoyment. But again you'd need to follow the logic and walk around in someone else's shoes to understand it the implication of that. Which brings me neatly back to something which isn't your strong point.

:worthy: Repped :worthy:

Well said!

 

[Bikkus]

If you think server decline is a fact due to one factor, like full groups yelling "dont add", then I am sorry to announce that you are one very naive and ignorant person.QUOTE]

Wow some people just see what they want to see... I said the Elitest attitude was ONE of the reasons that DAoC Europe is loosing its player base, not the only reason. The decline of DAOC is due to many reasons but that is for a different thread I'm sure.

 

[charmangle]

bah lag induced double post!:/

 

[charmangle]

Wow some people just see what they want to see... I said the Elitest attitude was ONE of the reasons that DAoC Europe is loosing its player base, not the only reason. The decline of DAOC is due to many reasons but that is for a different thread I'm sure.

Hmm...one thing though...how come the absolute majority of the leaving players (the last year anyway) are the so called "elitist crew"?

Are they leaving because people are yelling at them not to add or do you think there might be another reason ?

In my mind you are just plain wrong...those who care enough about rvr arguments to leave over them are those elitist people you are talking about. The rest of the player base that just enjoy a good zerging as a compliment to the exploration of the world it self (pve), mostly dont care that much what people whine about, and wouldnt even consider leaving over such a thing.

What makes people leave at this time is the lack of respect for eachothers way of having fun.

And a general decline in the game ofc, not to mention the really bad decitions by GoA latly.

/Charmangle

 

[Bracken]

Hmm...one thing though...how come the absolute majority of the leaving players (the last year anyway) are the so called "elitist crew"?

Not sure about that - think it's very mixed the type of people that aren't playing this server atm. A lot of fg'ers left, we know that because they've posted, but many "zergers" have left aswell, most of whom haven't posted on FH. There are a range of reasons why people have left/aren't playing this server and examples can be given on both sides of the fence.

 

[charmangle]

Not sure about that - think it's very mixed the type of people that aren't playing this server atm. A lot of fg'ers left, we know that because they've posted, but many "zergers" have left aswell, most of whom haven't posted on FH. There are a range of reasons why people have left/aren't playing this server and examples can be given on both sides of the fence.

I agree!
But I still think the "elitist crew" are a majority that leave for the rvr bickering situation. In my mind its a very small minority of the zergers that actually read boards or care to much about "elitist morons" yelling stuff at them when they hit something.

(atleast thats the case in the guild Im GM over...most of our members play to have fun, they see it from a roleplaying perspective (the war thingie). Ofc they get annoyed when someone whines at them for adding etc, then they usually come to me, and my comment is: You play the game as you want, but dont activly seek out to make the game unbarable for others. And since 100% of the whines comes from people at bridges thats hardly the case!

And checking our alliance, our guild has probably been the most PvE/roleplaying oriented. And the guild is still going strong today, while most of the other guilds (mainly rvr guilds) in our alliance have left or quit. (Maelstrom, Bulle af Fetstryk, House of Smek, etc etc)
Of the 60-100 logged on prime times in the alliance we have lost all but about 10-15. And almost all who have left have been the fg vs fg crew players!:/

Why they have left is another story ofc, the reasons are many, but it seems like the "elitist crews" are those that are least attached to the server. While the Roleplayers and PvEers can handle the odd whine etc...

/Charmangle

ps. What is starting to reck even our most devoted players though are the latest decitions by GoA!:/ Weve lost 3-4 olad and devoted players over that...and thats really really bad... ds

 

[Dard]

Abusive stuff .

Nice to see you full of Christmas cheer still

 

[Kagato]

Whilst Muy could of replied alot more diplomatically, I think his still rather valid point might be lost in his (drunken?) expletives.

The RvR community on excal/pry cluster and most definetly the Fh RvR forum for excal/pry would be a whole lot happier and pleasent if the disgruntled people that have supposedly quit the cluster would stop trying to rub salt into old wounds they opened back here by dragging this old subject up still.

Theres two sides to the arguements, those sides will never, ever, ever agree nor can either side ever be proven to be right or wrong because its ALL matter of opinion and we have all stated our opinions more then enough already.

Its time to put it behind us and get on with enjoying the RvR that we have chosen on our cluster of choice and stop baiting on forums that are no longer relivent to us, and that goes to all clusters.

 

[swords]

*checks to see thread title* Maybe its me, but the title is very flame baity
Bit like putting up a sign saying ''all bikers are wankers'' and then complaining when bikers take turn up and take offence

 

[Eleasias]

They are ruining your fun because they are playing the game as they always have done while you have made the game into something "more". The fact YOU decided to make this game into something more than it was than when you first bought it is YOUR choice. Therefore if you regard someone doing something they've been doing for the last 5 years as ruining your fun then the problem is with YOU, not them. Like I said before, it's the classic attitude of the emotionally challenged egocentric.

Incidentally, if a bunch of people suddenly decided that their "fun" was to talk in Old English and wear bright green would they have the right to bitch at anyone who ruined their fun by talking "normally" to them and wearing black? Your argument is based on exactly the same logic - you've made your own playstyle and anyone who doesn't go along with it is a "retard".

So here's the bottom line. We are not going to stop how we play because you, and those like you, are emotionally incapable of accepting being "added on". We don't care if we are crap at this computer game - it doesn't matter to us one jot. However, it obviously matters to you as you spend a great deal of your time coming to these boards to tell us (remember this is the server that you made a big song and dance about leaving). You are clearly someone who gives this computer game far too much importance. Let's face it man, you're really just a f*cking nerd hiding behind his pc making himself feel better by dishing out the shit with anonymity

No its not like that, more like if there was a place with a sign on it and it said old english and green clothes preferred and you went there with black clothes and talked normally, the others couldnt do anything but look at you with disdain. Also dont mix all the grps together, we made no "dance & song" about leaving, one day we decided to go, didnt tell anybody and started exping, this was before the TT thing too.

As for the last comment, yeah, so what? I'm a part time nerd, just like everyone who plays this game.

And what are you doing, calling people nerds and dishing out shit with anonymity too? Quite the internet tough guy hypocrit you are.

I always thought you were somewhat intelligent but you just drag yourself lower with every post you make.

 

[SoulFly]

 

[Fahdlan]

owned

 

[Sparklehorse]

I used arrows to move around also, bad habits dont break, was awful, had strafe as QW and arrows as well arrows.

anyway! What ur doing in Egypt u old gay!! even hotter place than spain!

People move around with things other than the Cursor keys O_O ?

Hehe i use the Arrows to move and all my qbars are done by clicking icons with the mouse cursor, this could be why i get pwned a bit in melee by strafers but i could never understand how someone can play with keyboard tbh, i tried it once and it was a nightmare :/

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

If you move with keys only for 9 realm ranks straight and switch keyboard / mouse configuration totally after a longer break from DAoC the panning and movement ends up fucked and if you record it everyone can share those strange movement moments .

Think I wrote it in the original movie thread but since Graewen is a dumb fuck he has no reading comprehension.

 

[Phule_Gubben]

If you move with keys only for 9 realm ranks straight and switch keyboard / mouse configuration totally after a longer break from DAoC the panning and movement ends up fucked and if you record it everyone can share those strange movement moments .

Think I wrote it in the original movie thread but since Graewen is a dumb fuck he has no reading comprehension.

Who's Graewen?

 

[Septina]

If you move with keys only for 9 realm ranks straight and switch keyboard / mouse configuration totally after a longer break from DAoC the panning and movement ends up fucked and if you record it everyone can share those strange movement moments .

Think I wrote it in the original movie thread but since Graewen is a dumb fuck he has no reading comprehension.

Dont know if i'd make a movie straight after changing keyboard/mouse setup knowing it would look kinda odd. And if i did i'd be aware that people on this forum will comment on it. Only thing that really matters is that the group you play in do good no matter if you use keyboard or mouse to turn. Obviously you must be doing something right otherwise you'd lose pretty much every fight you have.

 

[noaim]

Dont know if i'd make a movie straight after changing keyboard/mouse setup knowing it would look kinda odd. And if i did i'd be aware that people on this forum will comment on it. Only thing that really matters is that the group you play in do good no matter if you use keyboard or mouse to turn. Obviously you must be doing something right otherwise you'd lose pretty much every fight you have.

Yes, he came back when all good grps left.

And for Manisch, I wasnt only talking about movement, tbh I didnt think it was possible to get that little done without moc as a caster.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Yes, he came back when all good grps left.

And for Manisch, I wasnt only talking about movement, tbh I didnt think it was possible to get that little done without moc as a caster.

Well, you are entitled to your opinion about my skills, I don't give a fuck .

 

[Marc]

fucking hell Elesias, how old are you? Get a life, you sad, little man

 

[Eleasias]

fucking hell Elesias, how old are you? Get a life, you sad, little man

yea i was waiting for you to join in with something very original atleast get the name right mate

 

[Raven]

The server population fell for all sorts of reasons, toa, NF, general boredom etc etc, but it seemed to level out. however the latest crash is down to people not letting others play in peace so most of the so called "elitist" people (if you actually speak to these people most are actually nice guys irl too, i suspect they pay their own subs, but not sure) left for other servers, the population on excal/pryd is now so low is tragic and is pretty unsustainable. i suspect this is having a knock on effect with ml rushes, dragon raids, arti raids and such which means there is less going on in the realms, making it harder for people to get toons rvr ready, making more people bored and thus playing less or quitting.
Its funny when people start saying "yeah was a great zerg v zerg fight" at that keep/tower/bridge whatever and it turns out it was 2-3fg vs 2-3fg, that's not a zerg thats just 2fg on stick, you are fooling yourselves if you think things are ok. i dont know anyone from the 50 odd people that we took to US with us that want to come back to excal/pryd and i suspect its the same for the Avalon leavers. There is no place for us on excal/pryd so we have moved on.

GOA needed to do something about the alarm clock raids, they showed that they were willing to interfere with the game by banning TT members for something that wasn't against the CoC so why the hell couldn't they do something about the AC'ers? they used the SOTG excuse to deal with TT which was a joke tbh, they (TT) made a stand against the lame tactics employed by certain people who have openly said they couldn't give a fuck about fair play they just wanted to piss everyone off (grief play) surely AC'ing every couple of weeks is against the SOTG? what with Arthur and all that stuff, knights, honour and whatnot.

anyway ranting a bit now, in conclusion the so called elitists couldn't give a flying fuck about the situation on excal/pryd now, we are having fun elsewhere. the zergers can sit happy that they are winning at daoc (on this cluster) and watch the enemy flee back into pve or WoW.

 

[pip]

The stuff about the AC'ers i agree with but the stuff about exc & pry being dead i don't agree with that still lots of fun to be had

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

And because you don't give a fuck and have fun elsewhere you come back daily to remind all the "idiots" left how bad the situation is? Hmm... hmm...

 

[Raven]

i guess that depends on what you find fun, if you think 8 people sitting semi afk on a bridge waiting for a soloer to come by every 20 minutes and ganking them fun then sure, it must be a blast.