Now that most of the whiners have left, the cluster seems pretty much alive and kicki

[Kinag]

rofl not on purpose, thats a good 1.
ohh and adding down solo ppl wont get ur relics back either...

No, but it will bring peace to Lamhotatata or whatever the glowing elf's name is.

 

[Tallen]

as i said above most solo ppl @ crau seem to respect solo enemys, just seems most hibs however just wanna get some rps 4 teh realm m8s !!!
(r ofc some lameass BD grps and alb grps lameing there aswell but that abit more rare than the hibs standing @ guards waiting to add on ppl)

Crau is probably the worst solo spot in the game. If you solo in the busiest area, expect to get zerged once in a while, nothing new, been that way for years. 99% of soloers know this and only ever go there if there is no-one around the usual solo areas.

As for respecting 1v1 fights...well....if you don´t respect others rights to play as they see fit, why should they respect your opinions? I solo and often get "adds", if I get away alive mores the better, if not, what the hell. This is not a solo players game, never has been, never will be. The odds are always stacked against you, that is what most soloers understand and why there is a serious challenge to play solo in a realm-orientated game.

 

[Shamealot]

Crau is probably the worst solo spot in the game. If you solo in the busiest area, expect to get zerged once in a while, nothing new, been that way for years. 99% of soloers know this and only ever go there if there is no-one around the usual solo areas.

As for respecting 1v1 fights...well....if you don´t respect others rights to play as they see fit, why should they respect your opinions? I solo and often get "adds", if I get away alive mores the better, if not, what the hell. This is not a solo players game, never has been, never will be. The odds are always stacked against you, that is what most soloers understand and why there is a serious challenge to play solo in a realm-orientated game.

Now thats an opinion i can respect! well said m8!

 

[trycorn]

Crau is probably the worst solo spot in the game. If you solo in the busiest area, expect to get zerged once in a while, nothing new, been that way for years. 99% of soloers know this and only ever go there if there is no-one around the usual solo areas.

crau has allways been the best solo place, cos crau is by far the most quite "port keep" in nf...

As for respecting 1v1 fights...well....if you don´t respect others rights to play as they see fit, why should they respect your opinions?

dude atleast read what i have posted before posting nonesenss, i posted that i respect everybodys playstyle, BUT if some1 wanna add about albs zerging they better clean up their own act first tbh...

I solo and often get "adds", if I get away alive mores the better, if not, what the hell. This is not a solo players game, never has been, never will be. The odds are always stacked against you, that is what most soloers understand and why there is a serious challenge to play solo in a realm-orientated game.

the game is what u make of it, and i agree its a challenge fighting several opponents but its just gay when a FG have to steamroll some1 haveing a good fight and enjoying themselfs, atleast waiting until the fight is over...

 

[trycorn]

Ah I know who you are. I have been playing on my ranger as of late, and the " fellow solor be it mid/alb/hib " sums what has been happening around Crau.

btw whats the name of ur ranger ?? since u dont have it in ur sig while the rest of ur chars in there...

 

[Belgerath]

btw whats the name of ur ranger ?? since u dont have it in ur sig while the rest of ur chars in there...

I can not speak for Ashgen but my little ranger Merri gets duoed on sight by ryu shadowlost etc and 2bh i really dont care if much higher rr chars do that 2 me but i does mean when im on my bard, aka Belgerath if i see them fighting on the bridge they are on my KOS list.

If some others get caught in the crossfire then they know in future if im running a group not 2 be seen with 2bh is pretty easy when u got stealth.

But also if we see Magon etc camping or 2/3 bd's under the bridge i will also go out of my way to kill them simply cause they ruin the solo fun, my group only kills whats in front of it if no pops on us then we just dash on through to the boat, then no soloer gets hurt

I really dont care 1 way or the other if thats what you see, but that IS what happens, btw Merry xmas

 

[Turalyon]

The alb zerg really sux if u wanna have a great fg vs fg u must to be long time roaming and then when u are figthing u surely will be added...and they´ll say u that: "near towers or keeps all figths can be added".

We are tired of this but we´ll try to keep alive our fg at nigths...while we´ll check the classic again...

 

[Eleasias]

As for respecting 1v1 fights...well....if you don´t respect others rights to play as they see fit, why should they respect your opinions?

I understand everyone has the right to play as they like but never will I respect the playstyle or the player. It's a bullshit excuse though "you dont respect me for adding so I'll keep on adding"? Respect has to be earned and you dont get respected before you start acting like you deserve some.

Respecting an adder is like respecting someone purposely going out and trying to ruin other people's fun, like I said somewhere before its funny how it all turned around from "hey he didnt kill me while im on low hp, he must be nice guy" to "fucking elitist cock wanting fair fights lol what a prick, bet he has no life and must be ugly and fat also" and "what a loser he cant fight me 1v1, always runs away and gets help/zergs people down" to "HEY ITS A NICE GUY IRL WHO HAS A SUPERMODEL WIFE, GREAT JOB AND 2000000€ MONTH INCOME"

However how would respecting an adder help anyone? He wouldnt stop adding anyway? Say "hey good job helping me but can you not do it next time" will mean he will add in the future anyway, seen it happen countless times. Flaming him will do no good either. Or just saying "gw" will mean he thinks you're ok with him ruining your fights or sarcastic. Best way is ofc that these 2 types of players stay away from each other and now you have your dead server.

Not like I care anymore anyway because Avalon is simply much better with this, fg's go one place, zergs go another. Sometimes they collide though and the zergers get their share of dislike, maybe not in public but definately in private

Most players are shit players and wouldnt ever manage to kill anything 1v1/8v8 so they hide behind excuses, you can pick which one you want best suited for the situation. Better template / higher rr / he only plays daoc does nothing else. etc etc so they zerg up to gain rp's. Oh wait I thought it was the ELITISTS who do 8vs8 / 1vs1 who wanted the rp's most? Oo. People can claim they play for fun but zerging 40vs8 is not FUN for anyone and thats a fucking fact, you do it for the rp's. And here it all makes a full circle, you are the guy who only looks at his rp bar and doesnt care about anyone else, even gong on when it gets mind numbingly boring to zerg, just to get rp's. Disgusting hypocrisy.

PS. you all suck.

 

[Raven]

very well put

 

[Calo]

Most players are shit players and wouldnt ever manage to kill anything 1v1/8v8 so they hide behind excuses, you can pick which one you want best suited for the situation. Better template / higher rr / he only plays daoc does nothing else. etc etc so they zerg up to gain rp's. Oh wait I thought it was the ELITISTS who do 8vs8 / 1vs1 who wanted the rp's most? Oo. People can claim they play for fun but zerging 40vs8 is not FUN for anyone and thats a fucking fact, you do it for the rp's. And here it all makes a full circle, you are the guy who only looks at his rp bar and doesnt care about anyone else, even gong on when it gets mind numbingly boring to zerg, just to get rp's. Disgusting hypocrisy.

PS. you all suck.

Right.. Most players are shit because you say so? I mean with your knowledge of a total of 1% of the total playerbase, you must be right!

Pretty funny you guys are still here. Real life must be so boring you actually spend time on a forumboard where you don't even play calling other players retards and noobs.

And you call that facts? Perhaps learn what facts are before making random assumptions.
Let the ppl just have their fun.

And before you gonna start calling me unskilled and noob.. really , I don't care what some random i-netwarrior thinks of me

Whatever floats your boat

 

[Golena]

Respect has to be earned and you dont get respected before you start acting like you deserve some.

Translated:

If you sit down and give me 30k rp's then maybe just maybe i'll run past you once without insta gibbing you. Until i've got my 30k rp quota off you you can go to hell!
I've asked this before and all the l33t twits like you instantly ran off quietly. Why should someone you've steamrolled the last 5 times you saw them because you didn't know them "respect" your fight. Because your better than them? How about you start earning some respect from the randoms you constantly roll before YOU start acting like you deserve any.

People call you elitist pricks for a reason, and you've pretty much just demonstrated why. Cheers.

 

[thergador]

Not like I care anymore anyway because Avalon is simply much better with this, fg's go one place, zergs go another. Sometimes they collide though and the zergers get their share of dislike, maybe not in public but definately in private

why oh why even post here, go play on avalon forum then some might give a flying f"£k what you have to say. you left excal server as you have said u think we suck, so why not leave excal forum too is is that you wanna suck are donkeh balls

heres a grip plz take it and give your self a good shake

ps not caring about the server would mean that you dont have an oppinion about it but you clearly do, not sure what that say about you but hey just move on?

pps you voted I ran with a FG and we need more enemy groups each day we are out (how many groups needed?).
may be you should have voted
The server is dead as it is, I'm not intersted in helping out to fix the situation, am elsewhere.
or
I have no opinion.

 

[Eleasias]

Translated:

If you sit down and give me 30k rp's then maybe just maybe i'll run past you once without insta gibbing you. Until i've got my 30k rp quota off you you can go to hell!
I've asked this before and all the l33t twits like you instantly ran off quietly. Why should someone you've steamrolled the last 5 times you saw them because you didn't know them "respect" your fight. Because your better than them? How about you start earning some respect from the randoms you constantly roll before YOU start acting like you deserve any.

People call you elitist pricks for a reason, and you've pretty much just demonstrated why. Cheers.

Uh what? Where excactly did you pull that shit from?! roflers. If you knew anything about me or OG on cluster you'd know that we were the fairest grp there ever was when it comes to sparing soloers etc. We gave EVERYONE the benefit of the doubt, maybe not Horner but thats about it. Everyone got their fair chance and we only killed ppl that we had learned were proper cocks. Oh and btw dont you see the dilemma here yourself? You say it's all fair when you zerg someone and adding is fair game, then why dont you respect someone who does it to you? If he zergs you down, he's just playing the game the same way you are, ie. respecting the playstyle, even embracing it! If you zerg down someone who doesnt like the playstyle then you arent respecting him. You lose THE RESPECT WAR!

When you see a 8vs8 taking place, just sit/stand at the edge of it and do nothing, making sure they see you not adding. Thats instant respect gained and if its a 'real' grp they'll spare you not only this time but a long time into the future, if you dont go and add on them in the next fight.


And yes I post here because I feel like it, I've been registered from the ~day FH DAoC section was opened and I keep on posting aslong as I feel like it, just because I dont play UK cluster at this very moment doesnt mean I'm gonna stop posting. And yes if 20 grps signed up for a certain day to play on cluster we'd definately try to make a cluster grp on that day too. And yes there's a difference between having an opinion and caring, I can think someone is a **** but still not care about them.

And when it comes to judging most people yeah I can say with a 100% certainity from years of experience that most players suck.

 

[Valgyr]

Even tho Frs puts it a bit harsh he is right, cause the "eletist pricks" as the rest puts it doesnt go out of there way destroying others game play mabye in there own opinion the zergers doesnt either but there is absolutely 0 fun in getting beat simply cause u are fewer in numbers.

Does any1 remember the months just before excal was clustered when albs had all 6 relics never in my daoc time have i found it so useless to log on, i couldnt move anywhere in the frontier without getting insta killed by 8-100 times the numbers and im sure alot of fellow hibs felt the same as there were very few online. Its about the same these days albs has WAY more players and outnumber everything in sight how can any1 besides the rp greedy noskillers find it fun?

 

[Valgyr]

And running in the FG v FG zone often nets ALOT less rps then running in the zerg so cause u play for 8v8 fights hardly makes u rp horny

 

[OohhoO]

...there is absolutely 0 fun in getting beat simply cause u are fewer in numbers...

...there is absolutely 0 fun in getting beat simply cause u are lower in realmrank...

 

[Vodkafairy]

...there is absolutely 0 fun in getting beat simply cause u are lower in realmrank...

realmrank doesn't have a very significant impact, teamwork and playstyle outweighs it by far.

 

[Raven]

...there is absolutely 0 fun in getting beat simply cause u are lower in realmrank...

realm rank means nothing, just look at the ebay army, they are free RPs

 

[Tallen]

I understand everyone has the right to play as they like but never will I respect the playstyle or the player. It's a bullshit excuse though "you dont respect me for adding so I'll keep on adding"? Respect has to be earned and you dont get respected before you start acting like you deserve some.

Respecting an adder is like respecting someone purposely going out and trying to ruin other people's fun, like I said somewhere before its funny how it all turned around from "hey he didnt kill me while im on low hp, he must be nice guy" to "fucking elitist cock wanting fair fights lol what a prick, bet he has no life and must be ugly and fat also" and "what a loser he cant fight me 1v1, always runs away and gets help/zergs people down" to "HEY ITS A NICE GUY IRL WHO HAS A SUPERMODEL WIFE, GREAT JOB AND 2000000€ MONTH INCOME"

However how would respecting an adder help anyone? He wouldnt stop adding anyway? Say "hey good job helping me but can you not do it next time" will mean he will add in the future anyway, seen it happen countless times. Flaming him will do no good either. Or just saying "gw" will mean he thinks you're ok with him ruining your fights or sarcastic. Best way is ofc that these 2 types of players stay away from each other and now you have your dead server.

Not like I care anymore anyway because Avalon is simply much better with this, fg's go one place, zergs go another. Sometimes they collide though and the zergers get their share of dislike, maybe not in public but definately in private

Most players are shit players and wouldnt ever manage to kill anything 1v1/8v8 so they hide behind excuses, you can pick which one you want best suited for the situation. Better template / higher rr / he only plays daoc does nothing else. etc etc so they zerg up to gain rp's. Oh wait I thought it was the ELITISTS who do 8vs8 / 1vs1 who wanted the rp's most? Oo. People can claim they play for fun but zerging 40vs8 is not FUN for anyone and thats a fucking fact, you do it for the rp's. And here it all makes a full circle, you are the guy who only looks at his rp bar and doesnt care about anyone else, even gong on when it gets mind numbingly boring to zerg, just to get rp's. Disgusting hypocrisy.

PS. you all suck.

You are right in what you say and I would agree with most of it, but the use of the word respect you have taken out of context. I never said you should respect their playstyle, but you have to respect their right to choose how they want to play the game.

DAoC is essentially a RvR game, not 1v1 or 8v8. There is no rule that states you must let soloers finish their fights becuase this is not a duelling game, it's a war.

You have your opinion on how the game should be played, I have mine, other people have theirs. You may not like how they play and you are well within your rights to hold no respect for their actions, but you have to respect their right to choose how to play, or you CANNOT expect them to respect yours. The door does not only swing one-way.

This for me is essentially the problem. I may not like players who add and zerg, but i equally hold no love for players who whinge or try and impose their made-up rules on others. However, i do respect their right to choose. So I play the way I choose to play (which is solo, non-add, non-zerg when I can avoid it), but respect others rights to chose how they play unless they are bug abusing or cheating. I may not like it, but if i try and take away their freewill to choose how to play, I am no better than they are.

 

[OohhoO]

realmrank doesn't have a very significant impact, teamwork and playstyle outweighs it by far.

yah yah but there was so much brainless wijn in this thread I felt this irresistable compulsion to add some of my own

 

[Vodkafairy]

yah yah but there was so much brainless wijn in this thread I felt this irresistable compulsion to add some of my own

fair enough.

 

[Bracken]

someone purposely going out and trying to ruin other people's fun.

Yes because that's why people add. It has nothing to do with the fact that they have simply played the game the same way since day one and didn't jump on the "competitive" bandwagon. No, they do it just to ruin your fun.

And this is the single biggest reason why so many "fg'ers" are viewed as spoiled kids throwing their toys out of the pram when they don't get their own way - it's the classic attitude of the emotionally challenged egocentric to always view other people's actions as being purposely designed to some way or other impact on them personally. The possibility that it might be your own mentality which is the problem just doesn't get a look in.

Not like I care anymore

Despite your protests to the contrary you clearly still do.

Sometimes they collide though and the zergers get their share of dislike, maybe not in public but definately in private

You lot never learn do you?

Most players are shit players and wouldnt ever manage to kill anything 1v1/8v8 so they hide behind excuses

The average bloke doesn't need excuses. It's a computer game. The difference between the stereotypical "fg'er" and the average "zerger" is that the zerger doesn't care if they or anyone else is good or shit at this game. Why? Because it really doesn't matter. To listen to many of you you'd think it was a matter of life or death as to who r0x. Which neatly brings it back to the point about emotionally challenged egocentrics...

 

[Phule_Gubben]

You are right in what you say and I would agree with most of it, but the use of the word respect you have taken out of context. I never said you should respect their playstyle, but you have to respect their right to choose how they want to play the game.

DAoC is essentially a RvR game, not 1v1 or 8v8. There is no rule that states you must let soloers finish their fights becuase this is not a duelling game, it's a war.

You have your opinion on how the game should be played, I have mine, other people have theirs. You may not like how they play and you are well within your rights to hold no respect for their actions, but you have to respect their right to choose how to play, or you CANNOT expect them to respect yours. The door does not only swing one-way.

This for me is essentially the problem. I may not like players who add and zerg, but i equally hold no love for players who whinge or try and impose their made-up rules on others. However, i do respect their right to choose. So I play the way I choose to play (which is solo, non-add, non-zerg when I can avoid it), but respect others rights to chose how they play unless they are bug abusing or cheating. I may not like it, but if i try and take away their freewill to choose how to play, I am no better than they are.

Very nice post indeed.

Have a rep!

 

[Starwind]

Leaping to your death so that I dont get the deathblow


Should that be classed as Grief-play ?

Oh well , guess I'll have to settle for the rps

Battlemaster or not ... still free rps huh ?

Yours truly

What has been cut out of the screen shot?

Are you wearing rogs?

I know ... its a picture of you mother.. im right aint i.

Btw for you noobs who dont know, a pic of your mother on Darkage is like go faster stripes on a Ford Capri.

And why we are on topic of griefing and what is conciderd as Rammel in the trade, can you please explain why on earth would you jump up and down on my corpes until rez timer wears out, what kind of sad act does that.

If you are a kid Horner, you are forgiven, but if you are of mature nature then you want a swift kick in the bollox, or as they say in French " Le kung-Fu bon round house de Testicle ".

 

[Maddam Mim]

You are right in what you say and I would agree with most of it, but the use of the word respect you have taken out of context. I never said you should respect their playstyle, but you have to respect their right to choose how they want to play the game.

DAoC is essentially a RvR game, not 1v1 or 8v8. There is no rule that states you must let soloers finish their fights becuase this is not a duelling game, it's a war.

You have your opinion on how the game should be played, I have mine, other people have theirs. You may not like how they play and you are well within your rights to hold no respect for their actions, but you have to respect their right to choose how to play, or you CANNOT expect them to respect yours. The door does not only swing one-way.

This for me is essentially the problem. I may not like players who add and zerg, but i equally hold no love for players who whinge or try and impose their made-up rules on others. However, i do respect their right to choose. So I play the way I choose to play (which is solo, non-add, non-zerg when I can avoid it), but respect others rights to chose how they play unless they are bug abusing or cheating. I may not like it, but if i try and take away their freewill to choose how to play, I am no better than they are.

Agreed, well said m8!

 

[xxManiacxx]

still the same whine I see. Only in less numbers

 

[Bluesky]

or as they say in French " Le kung-Fu bon round house de Testicle ".

I Wont massage Horner's ego anymore but that comment made me laugh out loud :worthy:

 

[Kinag]

Yes because that's why people add. It has nothing to do with the fact that they have simply played the game the same way since day one and didn't jump on the "competitive" bandwagon. No, they do it just to ruin your fun.

And this is the single biggest reason why so many "fg'ers" are viewed as spoiled kids throwing their toys out of the pram when they don't get their own way - it's the classic attitude of the emotionally challenged egocentric to always view other people's actions as being purposely designed to some way or other impact on them personally. The possibility that it might be your own mentality which is the problem just doesn't get a look in.




Despite your protests to the contrary you clearly still do.



You lot never learn do you?



The average bloke doesn't need excuses. It's a computer game. The difference between the stereotypical "fg'er" and the average "zerger" is that the zerger doesn't care if they or anyone else is good or shit at this game. Why? Because it really doesn't matter. To listen to many of you you'd think it was a matter of life or death as to who r0x. Which neatly brings it back to the point about emotionally challenged egocentrics...

That attitude of yours make me sick, and you shouldn't be allowed to go around spew that kind of bullshit about "Emotionally challenged Egocentrics".

What makes you so much better when you're sitting on a forum trying to degrade those who have fun in a different way than you?

 

[Blow]

I still enjoy playing on the english server, and i proberly will stop playing if this server will
be merged with a frenc or german server and being forced to read one of those language. Ppl telling they
went to avalon cause albs got 2 relics from hibs (atm its 1), but if i look on Avalon i see that the mids
have all the relics, wonder if those ppl that left to avalon cause of the relics albs have on excal, are
going to another server, where the relics are not touched.

 

[pip]

Roll on merge then