Not helping realmmates is getting to silly imo

[Marcus75]

In my opinion the ones that dont want adds should have to make macros to yell that out...its they who want the game to be something its not.

If they dont bother about that then they shouldnt expect people to stay back when they fight, especially not when they fight in the zergy areas or near camped bridges.

 

[Spetsnaz]

1) well if u fighting in zergy area u should expect to be added/zerged etc

2) even if u not in zergy area u still should expect the same

3) its just a game

 

[Fyric]

first and foremost, the game is what you make out of it.

we've been given chars, areas etc, but how we use the areas is very much to our own preference, deliberately causing someone else grief by 'helping' him even though you know he does not want is not really helping is it?

Someone wise once said you can't help the people that doesn't want the help, get it?, just remember who got bitchy by your adding, and don't add the next time you see him fighting, even if he does yell for help, if he then writes you the reply is quite handy having .

Generally i leave all fg vs fg, or solo vs solo/duo vs duo etc alone, as long as the odds are even i won't interfere, however.. if i see a solo realmmate being attacked by a duo or trio i'll jump right in, if the solo guy have problems with that i'll ignore him till i stop playing

 

[Flimgoblin]

Whine about not adding should result in a ban tbh.

if he'd mentioned names and flamed about it he might have got a warning.

Subtle difference to the usual add whine.

/y is a good thing to type though not too hard and fair play the guy asked if you needed a hand.

Personally if I see a realm mate getting walloped I'll help - unless they've asked me not to beforehand.

 

[Succi]

So theyre meant to message every realm member in the zone to tell them beforehand not to add on their fights ? im not quite getting the practicality of that reasoning heh

 

[LordjOX]

What has this fucking game evolved into.

 

[censi]

its evolved into less of an add fest than it was at the beginnning tbh.

like u didnt whine when u get added on when daoc came out. everyone added on everything, it was fucking war, none of this respect stuff we had now.

but that was like the first 6months months of rvr on the server. when the discovery of pbaoe xp group was like a major thing, and if u had a glowy weapon u were highly leet!

 

[Elrandhir]

I usually see if help is needed and then Il help, nothing more to say about that, it isent that hard to see if it's an 1 vs 1 fair fight or not.

I wont ask, I will help because he could be dead already if you ask, and hes to answer, well usually it goes fast "Do you want help?, ops you'r already dead =P".

He will be able to tell me afterwards if I missjudged it and then Il know to that he dosent want help again, simple as that.

 

[ebenezer]

its evolved into less of an add fest than it was at the beginnning tbh.

like u didnt whine when u get added on when daoc came out. everyone added on everything, it was fucking war, none of this respect stuff we had now.

but that was like the first 6months months of rvr on the server. when the discovery of pbaoe xp group was like a major thing, and if u had a glowy weapon u were highly leet!

and funnely enough though i love solo fights i would rather the game was like it was back then. Not this divided strange comunity we have today...so much egoism and dung tbh. People only played it then, didnt think so much. was goo tbh..
over and out..

 

[constantinos]

but think of this i (rr8 warrior) was fighting an rr10 pala (dont remember name) and we used all we got i mean battler/malice/ip/purge/mls due to shields we were fighting like 5 mins there and was so exciting.. the fight was close to end both on 20-30% hp and suddently a great realmate hunter pops and start heating with arrows i stopped run to him told him to stop so we can end the fight, he stopped and i let the pala rest some b4 we continue due to the dmg he got from the arrows and while we about to start again... sb pops and pa+cd kill him.. how i felt? i was fighting a good enemy for like 5 mins and i was doing well i used all i have and best part i was having fun but.. i dont know the end.. i won? i lost? maybe u dont care but i wanted to win this fight and now i dont know the end of it :S

 

[Octo]

Its an RvR game. Just add as much as u want to; youre actually intended to add beeing of same realm and all. /ignore is there for a reason. If ppl want to duel without chance of getting add I would recommend that they agree something over irc or change game. I like a good duel meself, and as a tip to you others - DF is nice for solo/small group fights nowadays - get highcon mobs thrown in for the challenge too.

 

[Elrandhir]

but think of this i (rr8 warrior) was fighting an rr10 pala (dont remember name) and we used all we got i mean battler/malice/ip/purge/mls due to shields we were fighting like 5 mins there and was so exciting.. the fight was close to end both on 20-30% hp and suddently a great realmate hunter pops and start heating with arrows i stopped run to him told him to stop so we can end the fight, he stopped and i let the pala rest some b4 we continue due to the dmg he got from the arrows and while we about to start again... sb pops and pa+cd kill him.. how i felt? i was fighting a good enemy for like 5 mins and i was doing well i used all i have and best part i was having fun but.. i dont know the end.. i won? i lost? maybe u dont care but i wanted to win this fight and now i dont know the end of it :S

Well not much to think about as this is clearly and wouldent be hard to see a ongoing 1 vs 1 like that, but if you aint sure, or belive it aint a 1 vs 1 I think you should always help you'r realmmate, not even sure why I keep posting a it seems so obvious, I understand that some get pissed at realm mates leaveing them to die.

Well however I will always help anyone in need of it (Not those I see dueling, it's rather easy to spot if it's a duel so bb Alb/mid if not)

 

[Elitestoner]

anyone who demands help from a 1v1 shouldnt get it. thats the point of 1v1 :/ id never help kill someone who was in a 1v1 fight tbh.

 

[Javai]

I hear Street Fighter is a great 1 vs 1 game

 

[Aran Thule]

anyone who demands help from a 1v1 shouldnt get it. thats the point of 1v1 :/ id never help kill someone who was in a 1v1 fight tbh.

Ah but whats a fair 1v1 fight given the vast differance in classes, equipment and experiance.
And whats wrong with asking for help?
Your assuming that both sides wanted the fight, often that is not the case, i know i generally dont ask permission before shooting someone.

 

[ebenezer]

But i just gotta say something that i thought about when reading posts about adding etc yet again.
People in this comunity is so funny sometimes. About what is duddenly accepted and wahts not...there is no reason nor rhyme to it. For example, if someone exps in rvr zone, the usual and very predictable response is: hahah...someone got owned...or someone exped in an rvr zone!! etc etc...and most agrees upon this.
Its very tedious and boring to set up ur group and start exping etc..you have to begin all over etc and start it up again when you get killed.
But suddenly when you enter frontier for a 1vs 1 fight that some people search for, then your entitled to this solo fight without anything happening to you. LOL....anyone see the hypocrysi in that???
Its a bit funny tbh. Its the same fecking thing actually....anything goes in a zone were people can do whatever they want. I think its lame and get angry when i get killed while exping there, but yes...as prolly all agree upon its expected and you deal with it. Why not in rvr in zone:???
over and out..[/QUOTE]

 

[crispy]

Just now a guy ask me "Help?" and have no chance to answer before im dead..again

make this macro and spam it if youre in trouble:

/macro ADD /yell HELP ME M8S!!! IM IN TROUBLE

Problem solved

 

[Brohanith]

Ah but whats a fair 1v1 fight given the vast differance in classes, equipment and experiance.
And whats wrong with asking for help?
Your assuming that both sides wanted the fight, often that is not the case, i know i generally dont ask permission before shooting someone.

So you're telling me, that if some1 wonders into the frontier alone, he OFTEN doesn't want a 1v1 fight?

Why on earth is he there then? He enjoys getting zerged or leech off the zerg? If you wonder solo into the frontier, you better be rdy for a 1v1.

On the adding part. Try showing a little respect now and then. It makes you a better man/woman

 

[living]

Just add and call it a day. I do. If they whine at me theyll either not get a reply, get ignored or reported for verbal abuse.

There are the ppl I let fight out solo tho if I find them at unusal places (trying to avoid ppl for a 1v1), but those who take out a 1v1 on a bridge and expect a addfree fight are rather idiotic.

 

[Config]

In zergs aka. irvr, on bridges, towers, keeps, path between zerg places, then people who wants to solo realy must have a screw loose to think others wont add. In other places, leave them alone if they deserves it. This is my motto and i will allways play after it.

80% of people typing in this forum talks bollocks about the honour and none adding policy when they are infact doing the same thing they whine about time to time. Seen it so many times... but here is however a small amount of players who lives up to what they are saying and they imo deserves to have their fair fights.

Don't be bitter, play and have fun or quit the game and get a life.

 

[Elrandhir]

So you're telling me, that if some1 wonders into the frontier alone, he OFTEN doesn't want a 1v1 fight?

Why on earth is he there then? He enjoys getting zerged or leech off the zerg? If you wonder solo into the frontier, you better be rdy for a 1v1.

On the adding part. Try showing a little respect now and then. It makes you a better man/woman

heh funny post tbh, so narrow sighted =P
cba to make another long post because people just read what they want and skip the others.

 

[Infanity]

Well even tho ive played since start ive always been mediocre to decent at best in rvr but almost always enjoyed it, but nowdays things are getting really silly as ppl are so affraid to help/join a soloer like me when fighting and will rather see me die then help out
Just now a guy ask me "Help?" and have no chance to answer before im dead..again

Ive not playe daoc much lately but logged in last night for a run in Emain and it was decent fun with a caster, today i playe both with my hunter and my sb and i see probubly 10 fights in high traffic areas where ppl just stand in a grp watching other ppl fight, almost takeing turns fighting.

And vorst part is that ever time i help (or add as many like to call it) i just wait to get a rude remark of ppl getting angry.

Cant really see why ppl get mad when u help them kill an realm enemy but love when u heal em after when they running away trying to escape....isent it all about "manageing by your self" ?

Well i know ppl play diffrent ways depending on what they think is fun, but atm the "NO add" rule has surely taken hold of ppl and i really really hope its the majority that DO want it like that, because IF its just a loud few ppl that intimidate others then its really sad IMO!

Yes i am upset and yes maybe it is me that is in minority....maybe time to quit once and far all.

If you actually "solo" and you were fighting someone else "solo" you would probably whine like a bitch if the "solo" enemy got help from another "solo" enemy. Then you would whine like a bitch in your "solo" whine thread! :|

If you like to solo dont expect help, Im happy to watch an alb die in a 1v1, You have the people who like to roleplay and kill and help etc, Thats up to them and there own play style.

 

[BigE]

An "add" to one person could be seen as Realm Vs Realm to another

play as you wish....

 

[xxManiacxx]

If you don´t want to fight solo don´t go out in the frontier solo. Problem solved.

 

[liloe]

I just think that people should stop thinking they're the most important thing in universe, to start with. I play with my account, I pay with the money I earn and I play the way I want, as long as it's within the marges of the CoC and EULA. Neither of them states that I have to attack an enemy and neither states that I'm not allowed to kill an enemy.

It's foolish to believe, that whining at another person for acting like they did will do anything else than provoking anger. Sure, some people wish to have a nice 1on1 and are kinda pissed when they get adds. It's perfectly understandable, but it's not a reason to get upset.

Some people play this game to win in an equal numbering fight, to see who's the better when it come to a 1on1 and such. Other people play for the roleplaying aspect, if a friend is in danger, he will get help. Both are perfectly valid reasons to play, so every whine is more or less void.

I guess nobody minds if you whine a bit in your local /gu, cause people know you there, but if the first thing I hear from another players is: "you retard, why didn't you help", then it's kinda over for me.

 

[Chronictank]

People who say just add and /ignore when they say they didnt want help, what a cheap excuse to leech a few rp.

If you simply ask them if they want help, and they /y or pm you back saying help then everyone is happy.
I personally dont see what is so complicated in that

 

[Calo]

I just think that people should stop thinking they're the most important thing in universe, to start with. I play with my account, I pay with the money I earn and I play the way I want, as long as it's within the marges of the CoC and EULA. Neither of them states that I have to attack an enemy and neither states that I'm not allowed to kill an enemy.

It's foolish to believe, that whining at another person for acting like they did will do anything else than provoking anger. Sure, some people wish to have a nice 1on1 and are kinda pissed when they get adds. It's perfectly understandable, but it's not a reason to get upset.

Some people play this game to win in an equal numbering fight, to see who's the better when it come to a 1on1 and such. Other people play for the roleplaying aspect, if a friend is in danger, he will get help. Both are perfectly valid reasons to play, so every whine is more or less void.

I guess nobody minds if you whine a bit in your local /gu, cause people know you there, but if the first thing I hear from another players is: "you retard, why didn't you help", then it's kinda over for me.

smart guy!

 

[Marcus75]

So theyre meant to message every realm member in the zone to tell them beforehand not to add on their fights ? im not quite getting the practicality of that reasoning heh

Erm no? But since there isnt anyone rules about solo fights in this game then those that want only those should make the effort to get them and not demand of others to not add by default...its the other way around.

 

[Calo]

more like guy, but thx =)

P.S. 10mins timer, you can still edit =)

I never said smart girl! :touch:

 

[Chronictank]

Erm no? But since there isnt anyone rules about solo fights in this game then those that want only those should make the effort to get them and not demand of others to not add by default...its the other way around.

that makes no sence at all,
you should make a effort to add by default?
that way noone will ever "not add" because by they time someone notices another stealther for example popping its too late

Thats like saying shoot someone first then ask if they were the enemy