Not helping realmmates is getting to silly imo

[Salvion]

Well even tho ive played since start ive always been mediocre to decent at best in rvr but almost always enjoyed it, but nowdays things are getting really silly as ppl are so affraid to help/join a soloer like me when fighting and will rather see me die then help out

Just now a guy ask me "Help?" and have no chance to answer before im dead..again

Ive not playe daoc much lately but logged in last night for a run in Emain and it was decent fun with a caster, today i playe both with my hunter and my sb and i see probubly 10 fights in high traffic areas where ppl just stand in a grp watching other ppl fight, almost takeing turns fighting.

And vorst part is that ever time i help (or add as many like to call it) i just wait to get a rude remark of ppl getting angry.

Cant really see why ppl get mad when u help them kill an realm enemy but love when u heal em after when they running away trying to escape....isent it all about "manageing by your self" ?

Well i know ppl play diffrent ways depending on what they think is fun, but atm the "NO add" rule has surely taken hold of ppl and i really really hope its the majority that DO want it like that, because IF its just a loud few ppl that intimidate others then its really sad IMO!

Yes i am upset and yes maybe it is me that is in minority....maybe time to quit once and far all.

 

[auroria]

i prefer that people dont add on my fights because i find em more challenging, of course if im alone against 3 or so i dont mind

 

[Puppet]

Perhaps its time to talk to the other 99.9% of the (Midgard-)population if you think like this

 

[Straef]

I'll help if asked, and I'll leave the fight alone when that's not the case. I feel a lot of people do so, and it's the best way (imo), as you won't ruin a fight when the person you're trying to help doesn't need/want your help, and you can always join in if the person messages you or /yells.

 

[Marchus]

if some1 asks help from me, sometimes I invite the guy, put guard and intercept to him/her, then kill the hib/mid, so it looks fair to every1

 

[Elrandhir]

If I don't know that they want 1 vs 1 or that I see it's a fair 1 vs 1, then Il help the hib, if I get sh*t for this I can take that tbh, better then letting a hib die to me.

I think it's crap t let an attacked hib die if he don't add on everything in sight tha some do.

Still it's hard becuse you could end up being yelled at for adding if you help, but then I think the one yelling for wanting to help is scuse the bad language a shithead neways, one thing if you add over and over even after someone has asked you to not do so.

I can get abit annoyed if someone do add if I get a nice 1 vs 1, but I will still never go ffs adding n00b like some might, and as I have said in other posts if they do so Il just laugh at them and probably add again just because I don't respect them for doing so.

 

[Biohazarddk]

I wont add unless it's mid vs. more than 1 enemy, and i find it very annoying when i'm having a nice fight 1v1 and some1 adds on me,, even if i die, i appreciate that i had a fair chance to beat the enemy.. Yesterday i was fighting a rr9 stealther alb, and we had a pretty nice duel even thoug i'm only rr3 (sb), but when the rr9 is on 1% and i'm on around 5%, an alb infil decides to PA me (name: Mees) and that is lame tbh.. I wouldnt mind him killing me AFTER the duel.... Thats just my opinion and so be it ..

 

[ebenezer]

i know what ur saying and i would preferr to have rvr like it was in beginning when it was more spontaneuos.I love having a solo fight but i dont mind if anyone add on me tbh, would never be angry for anyone doing so, but ofc i would be happy if someone let me finnish as well like you say the standing a round is silly sometimes and it makes you feel more like ur atending a tournament instead of a rvr zone
But unfortunatly after all the discussions people have gotten a bit paranoid and rather ask if someone needs help since they are not sure if its a whiner or just a person that enjoys solo fights...or rather just a guy that needs help.
I do the same most of times...i ask if the person needs help if i dont know who it is..if its a friend that i know want my help i will help out, especially if i dont know they guy they are fighting. A friend is a friend and no silly in game respect would make me leave that
Anyhow...you can add on me anytime...and if you need help and im close just hit slash Y and il be there in a wiff
over and out..

 

[Andrilyn]

Depends on my mood and if I am grouped or not as then it's the groupleaders decicion but stealthers are 100% add for me.
If someone PMs me with anykind of abuse regarding the "add", wether it was intentional or not, I will make sure I'll "add" extra much next time I see the person
But in general lines it all depends on who I am "adding" and who I am playing with.

 

[illu]

Well even tho ive played since start ive always been mediocre to decent at best in rvr but almost always enjoyed it, but nowdays things are getting really silly as ppl are so affraid to help/join a soloer like me when fighting and will rather see me die then help out

Just now a guy ask me "Help?" and have no chance to answer before im dead..again

Ive not playe daoc much lately but logged in last night for a run in Emain and it was decent fun with a caster, today i playe both with my hunter and my sb and i see probubly 10 fights in high traffic areas where ppl just stand in a grp watching other ppl fight, almost takeing turns fighting.

And vorst part is that ever time i help (or add as many like to call it) i just wait to get a rude remark of ppl getting angry.

Cant really see why ppl get mad when u help them kill an realm enemy but love when u heal em after when they running away trying to escape....isent it all about "manageing by your self" ?

Well i know ppl play diffrent ways depending on what they think is fun, but atm the "NO add" rule has surely taken hold of ppl and i really really hope its the majority that DO want it like that, because IF its just a loud few ppl that intimidate others then its really sad IMO!

Yes i am upset and yes maybe it is me that is in minority....maybe time to quit once and far all.

I had a small arguement with a guildee about the same thing the other day. He was running out on a lowbie hunter and getting destroyed left right and centre, but most fights were 1on1, so I was torn whether to help or not :/ In the end I let him die (to much abuse), but explained to him that if he wants to fight in RvR, until he is strong enough to hold his own, he'll have to find a similar RR lowbie player and go out and try and kill people.
It came down to the fact that if I helped, I would be "steamrolling" the enemy, which some people would think is a good thing, but the way I play, I only look for "fair-ish" fights, whether its me against 1,2,3+ all depending on class and RR of enemy.
So if I see a fight where a realm mate is fighting 1on1, I'll let him slog it out with the theory of - if you are not strong enough to solo, duo until you are.
If I see a soloer being set upon by 2 or more enemy, I'll take into account who is fighting who, and then help maybe if the fight is very unbalanced (like last night, Mincer Melodist with warguard? and Winged Helm type of thing was duoing with an Infil steamrolling everyone. I tried helping another SB kill them a few times, but Mincer+Infil duo is so OP we lost every time :/).

Anyway, I think it all boils down to if you can't stand the heat in the kitchen, get out until you can (bring another chef along), and then when you are strong enough, you can be a born-again soloer(TM) and then you can worry about fighting the hordes of alb scouts and the mass of melee rangers out there.

Oli - Illu

 

[noaim]

Whine about not adding should result in a ban tbh.

 

[Takhasis]

If u add - u get moaned at.
If u don't add - u get moaned at.

a real win win situation :/

 

[Elrandhir]

I wont add unless it's mid vs. more than 1 enemy, and i find it very annoying when i'm having a nice fight 1v1 and some1 adds on me,, even if i die, i appreciate that i had a fair chance to beat the enemy.. Yesterday i was fighting a rr9 stealther alb, and we had a pretty nice duel even thoug i'm only rr3 (sb), but when the rr9 is on 1% and i'm on around 5%, an alb infil decides to PA me (name: Mees) and that is lame tbh.. I wouldnt mind him killing me AFTER the duel.... Thats just my opinion and so be it ..

Yeah, this is just sad though tbh.

 

[Elrandhir]

If u add - u get moaned at.
If u don't add - u get moaned at.

a real win win situation :/

Well it's only a bad add if you know you'r just leeching RP's tbh, if you do think you'r realm mate needs help I don't think it is bad, and I wouldent be angry at anyone for that, I only get abit annoyed if a duel and someone runs like mad just to get a final nuke(or whatever) on you or the one you duel.

 

[Bracken]

Just now a guy ask me "Help?" and have no chance to answer before im dead..again.

Can't really blame the guy if he's done the decent thing which is to ask if you need help first and he gets no reply. He's just making sure before joining in (not everyone wants help) and it only takes a moment to type /y

 

[Azathrim]

The thing is, if the opponent gets steamrolled too often he'll either 1) not return 2) return with a bigger zerg.

In which case we just end up with zerg vs. zerg or noone there. And that's when it turns boring.

Take forinstance the DC area, which ended up being zerged over due to the adding and zerging ranger/nightshade and stunning/shrooming Bridge Defenders.

 

[Equador]

It's simple - Add. If you get whine, /ignore.

 

[grimlin]

Well even tho ive played since start ive always been mediocre to decent at best in rvr but almost always enjoyed it, but nowdays things are getting really silly as ppl are so affraid to help/join a soloer like me when fighting and will rather see me die then help out

Just now a guy ask me "Help?" and have no chance to answer before im dead..again

Ive not playe daoc much lately but logged in last night for a run in Emain and it was decent fun with a caster, today i playe both with my hunter and my sb and i see probubly 10 fights in high traffic areas where ppl just stand in a grp watching other ppl fight, almost takeing turns fighting.

And vorst part is that ever time i help (or add as many like to call it) i just wait to get a rude remark of ppl getting angry.

Cant really see why ppl get mad when u help them kill an realm enemy but love when u heal em after when they running away trying to escape....isent it all about "manageing by your self" ?

Well i know ppl play diffrent ways depending on what they think is fun, but atm the "NO add" rule has surely taken hold of ppl and i really really hope its the majority that DO want it like that, because IF its just a loud few ppl that intimidate others then its really sad IMO!

Yes i am upset and yes maybe it is me that is in minority....maybe time to quit once and far all.

ZOMG! someone moaning about him getting moaned at about adding

 

[Fyric]

the way i see it you aren't helping your mate when youre adding, you're helping yourself, if the guy does /y and i have no idea who hes fighting ill happily add, but apart from that ill just walk away and let them have their fight

 

[Eregion]

Whine about not adding should result in a ban tbh.

Well said for being a skåning.

 

[censi]

the guy you help is actually loosing out. Sometimes in daoc you get like a pummelling but if you dig real deep and get some RNG love you can turn it around. When this happens and you like survive say a fight that looked hopeless and ot point, it kind of drives you to improve. I mean if you keep asking people to add your gonna not learn if you can turn it around by "diggin deep"....

dunno thats one view.

on the other hand you could argue adding (or saving a realm mate as its known in postive tongue) is like a pretty commen thing in daoc.

Cant recal too many times where I have wanted someone to add and they have not. Like its pretty obvious if u need an add because your getting walloped by multiple opponents.

 

[Elrandhir]

All dosent want a 1 on 1 fight censi and there is also many just getting Farmed by higher RR's (I have seen this much at areas there you can get some nice 1 vs 1 fights also)

I will help if I see a fight hib vs mid or alb, unless I know he wants 1 on 1, and either the one I helped is happy otherwise he can tell me that he dosent want help.

And I usually don't help if I see a nice duel, only if it seems unfair, hib running from mid or alb, or someone popping on a hib mate.

I will only let those I know add on fair fights die, the others I will aid if I see it's needed.

If I see someone going for someone that dosent seem to want a 1 vs 1, then he will get me on him aswell if Im around!

Bleh, that got repetetive :<

 

[censi]

if u dont like 1v1 daoc is the game for you!

come on dude.

the screen aint all like blurry white around the edges and just as your getting pwned a FG of 8 angels sweeps in and stunns you opponent while insta healing you to allow you to systamically demonlish the evil invader.

theres a few peeps (not many) that will just watch like a realm mate die, not meaning any disrespect, but they have kind of a mind set that says they aint interested in effecting the outcome of like a "resonably" fair fight (replace reasonably with a lot of other adjectives, maybe fight free from external influence is better). what constitutes a reasonably fair fight we could debait for months.

I mean when im out on me brehon NS, I am activly hunting anthing in the area I know is high RR, cuz thats like what its all about. finding the best thats out there and having a crack at it, get pwned, dust down, try again, get pwned, dust down try again, yey I got him! etc. thats the spirit u should have not like "im getting pwned elp1111!"

dunno imo anyway.

 

[Dorimor1]

If you choose to add, then add. Just /ignore the whine and laugh because people care so much about pixel realm points.

 

[Fyric]

no, people don't care, thats why you shouldn't add..

Thats kinda the entire point, people arent complaining you're taking away their rps, people are complaining because you're ruining the fight for them.

 

[Aran Thule]

no win situation really, best solution i find is if you dont know if they want help.

/y Yell if you need help!
then a simple /y indicates if you want assistance or not, and the opponent will understand that you joined in because you were asked.

Either way whatever the situation it does not excuse bad language or insults.

 

[Raven]

Whine about not adding should result in a ban tbh.

sadly i agree :/ for consistencies sake

 

[xxManiacxx]

Why don´t u just group up instead of running solo....

 

[xxManiacxx]

Whine about not adding should result in a ban tbh.

Same rules should apply in both add whine and non-add whine.

We will see if the mods think the same.

 

[Farbaute2]

only thing im annoyed at is people who send angry messages or call people abusive stuff in game. i mostly just use the /ignore command. sure i know that some play drunk or angry, but thats not an excuse.