Nice One Hibs -.-
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Shike
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Calo said:
and if your way of playing the game would be considered fun, perhaps there would be more than 850 ppl online right now? Thats totals online on the cluster right now, closing in on primetime.
If the bridgecampingbrigades etc has nothing at all to zerg down since nobody ever come anymore, who will they kill? Each others? Face it, that bridgecampingbrigade aint going anywhere, since they are lazy ppl who just cant be arsed to even take a boat that take 5min tops, they cant be arsed to even look for ppl to group with and make a proper group with, they cant be arsed to do fucking anything at all but stand there like complete and utter idiots waiting for someone to pop so they can kill it. THAT attitude is what is killing the RvR on cluster more than anything. Not people who proactively try to create groups that roam and RvR instead of sitting on their fat asses all day long in hopes for some lousy rotten RPs. What do this bridgecampingbrigades do during iRvR then? Yes, if its in alb for example, albs camp.. their own fucking bridge ffs. IF they are strong enough (as in, 3-4FGs totals with pugroglings) they move towards the other keep, if lucky, they find a group to splatter allover the place on the way. Some random stealthers will add into the great epic fight aswell and make some holy RPs too. Good for them, what then follows is an endless repeating of the scenario above. I'm sure it is very very fun, it actually even sounds quite challenging!. What the other side does during this is, they do the very exact same thing usually, pugroglings gather up somewhere, if its in alb they really like that tower near the villa, there some casters will camp and add on anything that doesnt belong to their realm, if too many they will run back to their own tower and hide inthere until its safe to roam around ~1500 units away from the tower, some random stealthers will ofc also roam this tiny space and add on everything in their quest for the holy RP's and thats good for them. IF they manage to put up a proper force with proper pugroglings they might even reach the bridge! VICTORY! Then CTB will follow for a while and thats also very fun and challenging actually. (CTB is ofc Capture The Bridge). Random stealthers will pop in that area aswell and leech off for their Holy RP's ofc and thats damn good for them. Sometimes some narrowminded people looking for a fight will end up in the middle of this mess and somehow, the group of pugroglings will attack the narrowminded stupid damned people that dare come into their territory and the narrowminded people usually end up quite dead, sometimes its a quite close fight 8vs40 and if those narrowminded people are narrowminded enough! VICTORY!, The pugroglings mutter overpowered and whine about bainshees and other stupid overpowered things and after alittle while, the pugroglings go on in their quest for the holy RP's and the scenario just keeps on rolling on.
I MEAN, WHO THE FUCK WOULDNT CONSIDER THIS EXCELLENT FORM OF RVR TO BE FUCKING FUN!? EVEN HILARIOUS AND EXTREMELY CHALLENGING!? It brings people together so they can chitchat, it brings people together so they together, as one, can pursuit their chase for the holy RP's and together become stronger and wiser.
Ya, iRvR rox meights.. it truly does. FGrvr is for pussies and narrowminded people, bridgecampingbrigades rules and set a good example of how to play the game imo. True challenge and a really fun game. Running back and forth, with no tactics, no proper setup, buffbots as healing. And btw, why the fuck do people roll like.. clerics and shit? Other than to use as DIbots?!, its lame to play a groupchar for the better of the realm and to actually make more difference than an elite caster that can pwn and make good Holy RP's in a zerg.
(ok ok, I know im overdoing it a tad here but.. look around, is things so very different from what I describe? Really? Population have dropped to silly low amounts, the guildgroups are running away like if cluster was clouded in plague, solostealthers just leave the arena completely not to return, soloplayers overall does the same, what is left is a few hardheaded guildgroups and some setgroups, trying to have some fun while possible.)
Make groups for gods sake, join guilds and make them stronger, roll supportclasses instead of that cool laiftapper that has the whole package, you as an individual do not matter at all, not to your realm and not to anyone else, sure you may think its fun to run around leeching with a zerg but cmon, who are you gonna leech off when every single roamer has left the building? Do like CM and pve guards all day long? Seriosly, you lot have to see the problem here. If you feel you cannot compete with one FG vs a welltrimmed killingmachine, bring 2 ffs. Just get that fat ass moving away from a fucking bridge at least. Im damn sure any GG rather fight 2FGs with lower experienced players rather than head to a bridge to get zerged to bits by 40 casters camping a bridge. Start somewhere at least.
Most of you casuals out there will probably just think im grumpy etc but I dont really care, if even just one of you lot out there understand wtf im saying, then im happy. Cluster is heading in a very very bad direction atm and I think people should and at least try to make a change for the better and do something.
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In my opinion AC'ing is kinda disrespectful to ur fellow gamers, since at the end of the day we're all in it to have fun and compete against others.
As far as i can tell the only thing these two AC raids have achieved is annoyed everyone in one way
- Annoyed hib (and mid) when CM(Alb) AC'd the first time, then alb got annoyed when hibs AC'd them.
- So the only thing that happens now is the bitter leftovers of angry realms whilst nothing has changed
- Im getting flashbacks of studying the world war and trench warfare, 9,000 Alliance soldiers died and 12,000 German soldiers died to gain absolutely no ground whatsoever.
- I hope im not being unreasonable when i say perhaps some form of agreement could be reached between the realms to leave it as is now and not take part in any more AC raids
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
im not currently playing, and although my loyalty lies in hibernia i do have chars in mid and alb.
and although i seem to be looking through rose tinted spectacles at the moment since im in a loving mood, it cant take too much effort from everyone to have a little decency and i speak to all three realms as every realm has been at fault one time or another for this.
just my two cents
What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow man
As far as i can tell the only thing these two AC raids have achieved is annoyed everyone in one way
- Annoyed hib (and mid) when CM(Alb) AC'd the first time, then alb got annoyed when hibs AC'd them.
- So the only thing that happens now is the bitter leftovers of angry realms whilst nothing has changed
- Im getting flashbacks of studying the world war and trench warfare, 9,000 Alliance soldiers died and 12,000 German soldiers died to gain absolutely no ground whatsoever.
- I hope im not being unreasonable when i say perhaps some form of agreement could be reached between the realms to leave it as is now and not take part in any more AC raids
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you
im not currently playing, and although my loyalty lies in hibernia i do have chars in mid and alb.
and although i seem to be looking through rose tinted spectacles at the moment since im in a loving mood, it cant take too much effort from everyone to have a little decency and i speak to all three realms as every realm has been at fault one time or another for this.
just my two cents
What is hateful to you, do not to your fellow man
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Kinag said:I dislike AC raids as much as the next guy (or the one after that), though it's fun to notice how many hypocrits there actually are
I remember Icebreaker whining like a maniac when the group of albs did it, but now when hibs are doing it it's totally ok
Shame on the albs who ac'ed the relics in the first place, but shame on hibs as well, though I could see it coming after the last three(?) MRE's which "failed" at getting the relic back.
Where do i say its ok? It's not ok! Even some of my Guild Members were there! The Pimps! But i make sure it wont happen again!
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Shike said:A very long written text..
wth, where did you find all this time?
I surely agree with you that adding and zerging and camping destroy's this cluster.
I just wanted to point out that some ppl actually do like irvr. AKA the ppl who log on, play 1-2hours and just play it. Mostly they don't add or zerg, they just grp up, kill stuff, will add once in a while(like everyone does, may it be accidently or not) and mostly, they die alot, but they don't care.
And these are normal ppl,friendly ppl, fun ppl. nothing wrong with that.
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Gear said:
to the casual observer, there is no difference.
3 realms,
war,
you are either a friend or a foe,
it is very simple really.
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Shike said:
hell, you overwhelm me at 2.30 o clock in the morning.
i`m sury you have something usefull to say, but it is too much test for me at the moment to comprehend/reply... yes i am drunk.
Can i gt back to you on this subject tomoz oO ?
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Shike said:and if your way of playing the game would be considered fun, perhaps there would be more than 850 ppl online right now? Thats totals online on the cluster right now, closing in on primetime.
Do you have anything more than an oppinion that this would be the `fault` of the people with a different play style than yours ?
Who is to say that it is not YOUR playing style that drives people away from the server / game ?
Ever thought about the option that it is the set groups (maybe 10% of the population) that might destroy the game for the casual players (70+% of the population) and it`s the `leet` who drive the casuals away from the server ?
>>they cant be arsed to even look for ppl to group with and make a proper group with,
once again, who says that making a `proper` group is the standard to which all should comply ? i make my groups based upon having a minumun survivabily (some healing) and include as much of the people i like who want to participate in rvr, not nesc 8 in number (can be more, can be less)
>>they cant be arsed to do fucking anything at all but stand there like complete and utter idiots waiting for someone to pop so they can kill it.
have you considered the option it is the set groups who destroyed every other option for these people, except to get killed like a chicken once they leave the safety of the bridge / tower / keep area ?
>>THAT attitude is what is killing the RvR on cluster more than anything. Not people who proactively try to create groups that roam and RvR instead of sitting on their fat asses all day long in hopes for some lousy rotten RPs.
according to me it is the mentallity of the set fg`s who expect everyone to roam and run as 8 people fg (who they can ofcourse beat without to much trouble) who destroy the server tbh. Also their constant whining over any fight that ain`t 8 vs 8 (in which they have a huge advantage) and as unballanced as it might come (set high rr fg vs pug in rogs is NOT a fair fight).
This Vocal minority of set fg runners makes me wanne puke tbh.
>>What do this bridgecampingbrigades do during iRvR then? Yes, if its in alb for example, albs camp.. their own fucking bridge ffs. IF they are strong enough (as in, 3-4FGs totals with pugroglings) they move towards the other keep, if lucky, they find a group to splatter allover the place on the way. Some random stealthers will add into the great epic fight aswell and make some holy RPs too. Good for them, what then follows is an endless repeating of the scenario above. I'm sure it is very very fun, it actually even sounds quite challenging!. What the other side does during this is, they do the very exact same thing usually, pugroglings gather up somewhere, if its in alb they really like that tower near the villa, there some casters will camp and add on anything that doesnt belong to their realm, if too many they will run back to their own tower and hide inthere until its safe to roam around ~1500 units away from the tower, some random stealthers will ofc also roam this tiny space and add on everything in their quest for the holy RP's and thats good for them. IF they manage to put up a proper force with proper pugroglings they might even reach the bridge! VICTORY! Then CTB will follow for a while and thats also very fun and challenging actually. (CTB is ofc Capture The Bridge). Random stealthers will pop in that area aswell and leech off for their Holy RP's ofc and thats damn good for them. Sometimes some narrowminded people looking for a fight will end up in the middle of this mess and somehow, the group of pugroglings will attack the narrowminded stupid damned people that dare come into their territory and the narrowminded people usually end up quite dead, sometimes its a quite close fight 8vs40 and if those narrowminded people are narrowminded enough! VICTORY!, The pugroglings mutter overpowered and whine about bainshees and other stupid overpowered things and after alittle while, the pugroglings go on in their quest for the holy RP's and the scenario just keeps on rolling on.
a very one sided and limited view at best if i might say.
>>I MEAN, WHO THE FUCK WOULDNT CONSIDER THIS EXCELLENT FORM OF RVR TO BE FUCKING FUN!? EVEN HILARIOUS AND EXTREMELY CHALLENGING!? It brings people together so they can chitchat, it brings people together so they together, as one, can pursuit their chase for the holy RP's and together become stronger and wiser.
who are you to say that`s wrong and what the `only` good way is ?
>>Ya, iRvR rox meights.. it truly does. FGrvr is for pussies and narrowminded people, bridgecampingbrigades rules and set a good example of how to play the game imo. True challenge and a really fun game. Running back and forth, with no tactics, no proper setup, buffbots as healing.
And i consider the set fg on TS with their `i am hollier than thou` attitude the most desctructive thing to the overal game experience for the MAJORITY of players. People who try to maximize EVERY paramater/advantage possible (coms, gear, RR, ml`s, classes in the group, ...) against their opponent to create a totally unfair fight (even if 8 vs 8) and feel the need to insult you at every whim if you use the one paramater (numbers) to EVEN the score are just sick.
>> And btw, why the fuck do people roll like.. clerics and shit? Other than to use as DIbots?!, its lame to play a groupchar for the better of the realm and to actually make more difference than an elite caster that can pwn and make good Holy RP's in a zerg.
because everyoby wants to be a god, not a servant in his own mind.
>>(ok ok, I know im overdoing it a tad here but.. look around, is things so very different from what I describe? Really?
it`s a view
>Population have dropped to silly low amounts,
i can see 100 reasons for that, your view is one that doesn`t feature high on my list.
>the guildgroups are running away like if cluster was clouded in plague,
maybe after they driven of 70% of the casual players with their unforgiving playstyle ?
>> what is left is a few hardheaded guildgroups and some setgroups, trying to have some fun while possible.)
i could interpret this as a sign you actually agree with me on my points.
>Make groups for gods sake, join guilds and make them stronger, roll supportclasses instead of that cool laiftapper that has the whole package, you as an individual do not matter at all, not to your realm and not to anyone else, sure you may think its fun to run around leeching with a zerg but cmon, who are you gonna leech off when every single roamer has left the building?
I hope that when the last of the `i am holier than thou` brigade has left the building, the casuals might start playing again
>>If you feel you cannot compete with one FG vs a welltrimmed killingmachine, bring 2 ffs.
that has always been my moto
>> Just get that fat ass moving away from a fucking bridge at least. Im damn sure any GG rather fight 2FGs with lower experienced players rather than head to a bridge to get zerged to bits by 40 casters camping a bridge. Start somewhere at least.
as a set fg player, you have the choise to try different things and still succeed. as a casual player there are few things one can do that are not mandatory suicide.
>>Most of you casuals out there will probably just think im grumpy etc but I dont really care, if even just one of you lot out there understand wtf im saying, then im happy.
a) few casuals actually know about the existence of FH, so you are preaching to the wrong people here.
b) i think i understand most of your points, i just happen not to agree on a lot of them.
i kinda strongly dislike the hyper competitive nature of the set fg`s and i like the `easy going` attitude that exists in the groups i run with.
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Muylaetrix,
with due respect your reply makes little or no sense. You might at least try to construct a counter argument rather than just object point for point. All you have done is disagree without really providing an alternative picture. If you have a point you ought to make it maybe then things can move on a bit.
I like Shike's post it is passionate and uncompromising all we got from you is the equivalent of a damp squib. So show people a bit of respect and sit down and tell us how you see it. I cannot see how you can back any of your counter claims right now.
regards
Sharkith
with due respect your reply makes little or no sense. You might at least try to construct a counter argument rather than just object point for point. All you have done is disagree without really providing an alternative picture. If you have a point you ought to make it maybe then things can move on a bit.
I like Shike's post it is passionate and uncompromising all we got from you is the equivalent of a damp squib. So show people a bit of respect and sit down and tell us how you see it. I cannot see how you can back any of your counter claims right now.
regards
Sharkith
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Muylaetrix said:
Set groups run in Agramon, non set groups try to roam in other areas (we did run as 8 man group in HW a bit yday), but only finds droves of Albs running around a bridge on stick.
It's an easy route ofc, but what's the fun tbh? I can't see it.
Yday night was a perfect example of how some of the Bridge Crew could have put up some roaming groups and have some fun testing some group play instead of f8 loltapping everything moving while it's di bot was healing from inside a tower bridge.
Muylaetrix said:
Nowadays every1 and his dog got a somewhat Toaed template so this excuse of rogshit running around clueless it's rather old.
Not all ppl who runs around wanting to give fair fights are high rr long standing groups ya know, like not all soloers who run around wanting to have fair fights jumps every rr2 on sight.
Muylaetrix said:
Just as the Vocal minority of ppl rr10 defending zerging shit makes me wanna puke so?
Muylaetrix said:
Because if u apply some logic u'll find that having a balanced fight, even if it goes the wrong way, is more satisfying that randomly nuke some1 for 30 rps -.-
Muylaetrix said:
As was said many times in the past, an high rr set group can deal (maybe some win and some lose) against 10-15 ppl, but not against 40 ppl cause of the above statement, every1 nowadays got his MLs shit, Toa templates and what not.
Muylaetrix said:
U do talk about narrow minded point of views? Lol.
Muylaetrix said:i can see 100 reasons for that, your view is one that doesn`t feature high on my list.
maybe after they driven of 70% of the casual players with their unforgiving playstyle ?
I hope that when the last of the `i am holier than thou` brigade has left the building, the casuals might start playing again
that has always been my moto
Bollocks after the last ppl who actually think that their "enemies" are rl ppl and try to have a respectful play style has left the building, all is left is the Bridge Brigade hugging each other at their respective bridges cause once u start to think that it's the only way of play u won't change it
Muylaetrix said:
Packing a bridge can be mandatory suicide as well when there's no1 else left paying a visit there ya know? It's called suicide out of boredom.
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Sharkith said:with due respect your reply makes little or no sense.
damn, and i take all this time to write such a reply
>>All you have done is disagree without really providing an alternative picture. If you have a point you ought to make it maybe then things can move on a bit.
ok, i`ll try to make a shortened version of it.
As far as i am concernedd, everyone can play the game the way they like, as long as they :
a) stay polite.
b) stop the constant whining over the fact that people will violate other peoples PERSONAL code.
c) Don`t do anything against the rules given by GOA and MYTHIC.
that`s mandatory imho.
having you own `code` is not wrong, but forcing other people to play according to it is selfish and absurd imho.
>>I like Shike's post it is passionate and uncompromising ...
a very nice post indeed, well writen, wel constructed, well voiced, but conflicting with my view and unrealistic imho...
>>all we got from you is the equivalent of a damp squib.
if only i knew what a squib was :/
>>So show people a bit of respect and sit down and tell us how you see it.
I think most people will agree, even from the strict solo and set fg scene, there are a lot worse people out there than me when it comes to showing people respect.
>>I cannot see how you can back any of your counter claims right now.
just like the post i replied to, it contains views, not facts. no way to back views are they are personal by default. this counts for me, the post i replied to, and you.
i have no claim whatsoever to say my view is THE view. i am just trying to present a different view.
I feel the confrontational attitudes are fuelling the problem.
Can I give an example.
Bard leading pick up group of 7ish in rvr.
They are roaming, they are somewhere off the beaten track, ie, not in casting distance of iRVR/DC bridge.
Ahead are two players in what seems to be a clear 1v1. One is a hib.
Bard says in group chat, 'leave'.
Group stays stuck to bard, they are running past.
Hib apparently expects group to steamroller his fight and yells at them not to. His exact words are. (Well, I'll use asterisks rather than exact words because I don't say that sort of thing.) "**** off back to Agramon you ****s."
Group is now past the 1v1 they have left untouched.
Bard is offended.
Bard circles.
Bard says in group chat, 'kill'.
Group kills alb/mid
End result:-
Solo hib hates group for interfering in his fight.
Solo alb/mid hates group for killing him for no reason and plans to add on their fights.
Group stands at DC for ten minutes while bard has bitter row in send with solo hib.
Can I give an example.
Bard leading pick up group of 7ish in rvr.
They are roaming, they are somewhere off the beaten track, ie, not in casting distance of iRVR/DC bridge.
Ahead are two players in what seems to be a clear 1v1. One is a hib.
Bard says in group chat, 'leave'.
Group stays stuck to bard, they are running past.
Hib apparently expects group to steamroller his fight and yells at them not to. His exact words are. (Well, I'll use asterisks rather than exact words because I don't say that sort of thing.) "**** off back to Agramon you ****s."
Group is now past the 1v1 they have left untouched.
Bard is offended.
Bard circles.
Bard says in group chat, 'kill'.
Group kills alb/mid
End result:-
Solo hib hates group for interfering in his fight.
Solo alb/mid hates group for killing him for no reason and plans to add on their fights.
Group stands at DC for ten minutes while bard has bitter row in send with solo hib.
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TheBinarySurfer said:
Late to this discussion, but just to point out, you can compete at games, chess is quite competitive i believe. They even get escorted to the toilets to make sure they dont cheat at GM level!
Irrelevant to the discussion, but with so many posts I doubt ive got anything new to say, just like most of the other people posting here.
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>>Set groups run in Agramon, non set groups try to roam in other areas (we did run as 8 man group in HW a bit yday),
i stay away from agramon, i don`t feel the need to go extract `vengenance` (lol !) upon the agramon crew when i have over 2fg running with me.
>>It's an easy route ofc, but what's the fun tbh? I can't see it.
getting 10 rp a kill for a totall of maybe 5 k an evening is sooo much more rewarding than getting killed 50 times and ending the evening with 0 rp i guess... that`s why people stick to large groups and stay at places where they can be more than just a snack or speed bump for the `rvr gods`.
>>Yday night was a perfect example of how some of the Bridge Crew could have put up some roaming groups and have some fun testing some group play instead of f8 loltapping everything moving while it's di bot was healing from inside a tower bridge.
yesterday i recaptured a few towers, did an expedition to ailline 4 twice, went to scat, went to odin a few times and ended up campign bled bridge twice.
i stronly dislike roaming.
if i move from spot A to spot B, it`s because i have a reason, a plan, or trust somone else to have those at least.... not because i run around like a headless chicken hoping to run into a fight.
just running around an area hoping to find a similar size / composition group to have a deathmatch just seems ABSURD to me.
blind apes searching bananas and stuff imho.
>>Nowadays every1 and his dog got a somewhat Toaed template so this excuse of rogshit running around clueless it's rather old.
damn, what are all those gimps in my guild doin then that they constantly need help with this or that pve thingy ???
>>Not all ppl who runs around wanting to give fair fights are high rr long standing groups ya know, like not all soloers who run around wanting to have fair fights jumps every rr2 on sight.
there is no such thing as a fair fight.
if i distilled the meaning of a fair fight out of peoples reactions on FH, i would come to the conclusion that a fair fight is one where to get as much advantages as possible (ra`s, timers, rr, ml, ..) while constantly whining over a single parameter... numbers.
>>Just as the Vocal minority of ppl rr10 defending zerging shit makes me wanna puke so?
i can`t claim rr11 ice wizards are a majority, true, lol. but i do think my view respresents a larger portion of the total population than yours.
doac is a zerg and add game by its DESIGN, if that makes you puke, wrong game for you. If you want to make it something else, good luck, but please stop whining over other people who JUST PLAY THE FUCKING GAME.
>>Because if u apply some logic u'll find that having a balanced fight, even if it goes the wrong way, is more satisfying that randomly nuke some1 for 30 rps
balanced fights are a myth. one could say that zerg fights are the only form of nearly balanced fights there is.... ooh, blasphemy !!!
>>As was said many times in the past, an high rr set group can deal (maybe some win and some lose) against 10-15 ppl, but not against 40 ppl cause of the above statement,
a set fg defending a tower against 40 people can be fun you now ???
that set fg will probably wipe in the open field against 40, true.
>> every1 nowadays got his MLs shit, Toa templates and what not.
seems like you are not in touch with large part of the common player base.
>> U do talk about narrow minded point of views? Lol.
you talking to me or was that ment as a sticky for yourself ?
>> Packing a bridge can be mandatory suicide as well when there's no1 else left paying a visit there ya know? It's called suicide out of boredom.
mandatory suicide is dieing as soon as you get 1500 units away from that bridge / keep / tower.
ofc the set groups and stuff want everybody to move away from areas that offer protection so `the noobs are easier to farm`.
i stay away from agramon, i don`t feel the need to go extract `vengenance` (lol !) upon the agramon crew when i have over 2fg running with me.
>>It's an easy route ofc, but what's the fun tbh? I can't see it.
getting 10 rp a kill for a totall of maybe 5 k an evening is sooo much more rewarding than getting killed 50 times and ending the evening with 0 rp i guess... that`s why people stick to large groups and stay at places where they can be more than just a snack or speed bump for the `rvr gods`.
>>Yday night was a perfect example of how some of the Bridge Crew could have put up some roaming groups and have some fun testing some group play instead of f8 loltapping everything moving while it's di bot was healing from inside a tower bridge.
yesterday i recaptured a few towers, did an expedition to ailline 4 twice, went to scat, went to odin a few times and ended up campign bled bridge twice.
i stronly dislike roaming.
if i move from spot A to spot B, it`s because i have a reason, a plan, or trust somone else to have those at least....
not because i run around like a headless chicken hoping to run into a fight.just running around an area hoping to find a similar size / composition group to have a deathmatch just seems ABSURD to me.
blind apes searching bananas and stuff imho.
>>Nowadays every1 and his dog got a somewhat Toaed template so this excuse of rogshit running around clueless it's rather old.
damn, what are all those gimps in my guild doin then that they constantly need help with this or that pve thingy ???
>>Not all ppl who runs around wanting to give fair fights are high rr long standing groups ya know, like not all soloers who run around wanting to have fair fights jumps every rr2 on sight.
there is no such thing as a fair fight.
if i distilled the meaning of a fair fight out of peoples reactions on FH, i would come to the conclusion that a fair fight is one where to get as much advantages as possible (ra`s, timers, rr, ml, ..) while constantly whining over a single parameter... numbers.
>>Just as the Vocal minority of ppl rr10 defending zerging shit makes me wanna puke so?
i can`t claim rr11 ice wizards are a majority, true, lol. but i do think my view respresents a larger portion of the total population than yours.
doac is a zerg and add game by its DESIGN, if that makes you puke, wrong game for you. If you want to make it something else, good luck, but please stop whining over other people who JUST PLAY THE FUCKING GAME.
>>Because if u apply some logic u'll find that having a balanced fight, even if it goes the wrong way, is more satisfying that randomly nuke some1 for 30 rps
balanced fights are a myth. one could say that zerg fights are the only form of nearly balanced fights there is.... ooh, blasphemy !!!
>>As was said many times in the past, an high rr set group can deal (maybe some win and some lose) against 10-15 ppl, but not against 40 ppl cause of the above statement,
a set fg defending a tower against 40 people can be fun you now ???
that set fg will probably wipe in the open field against 40, true.
>> every1 nowadays got his MLs shit, Toa templates and what not.
seems like you are not in touch with large part of the common player base.
>> U do talk about narrow minded point of views? Lol.
you talking to me or was that ment as a sticky for yourself ?
>> Packing a bridge can be mandatory suicide as well when there's no1 else left paying a visit there ya know? It's called suicide out of boredom.
mandatory suicide is dieing as soon as you get 1500 units away from that bridge / keep / tower.
ofc the set groups and stuff want everybody to move away from areas that offer protection so `the noobs are easier to farm`.
Cromcruaich
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Like sharky said, this point by point quoting is pointless Mul. Its just a game of scissors paper stone with words. Spitting out random, largely meaningless phrases and responses with little or no backup or support in fact gets us nowhere.
Muylaetrix
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Cromcruaich said:
so, what means do yo have in mind then to serve the purpose of discussing opinions ?
Cromcruaich said:
So, what is getting us `anywhere` then ?
Darzil
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The one thing that always confuses me is that it is apparently impossible to have any skill if you've got over 8 people. Must really annoy real life generals to know how much they suck.
It's less clear, but I'm suspecting you can only have skill with 1 person or with 8, not with 2-7 or 9+.
Darzil
It's less clear, but I'm suspecting you can only have skill with 1 person or with 8, not with 2-7 or 9+.
Darzil
Muylaetrix said:
Agreed and hopefully people will finally pick this up soon, cause I think some people need to go out in real life more often en actually experience whats it like there
Maybe?! hibernian players DO have every character TOA-ed and ML-ed up, I can asure you that alot of albion players arent
Sharkith said:
Reality check :touch:
Gahn said:
Does that mean FH will be finally rid about all the iRvR and bridge camper posts?!
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From the just few months Ive been playing this game (and just reading FH) there is a "community" which consists of certain players.
They have "ideals" for this cluster and try to push it on everyone (sadly).
Try to push your opinion onto someone in real life, you cannot do that if that person does not agree with it. They'll either end up being pissed (no not drunk, although maybe in some cases) or they'll just leave it alone or they'll get in people that agree with the same opinion(s) as themselves.
So to get straigth to my point, its ok to voice how you think about certain things and your entitled to that, but please leave it at that.
There might be a chance that things will change somewhat towards what you aimed for, but as we can see from the posts the last few months it didnt have much effect as to better the game.
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Muylatrix, it is not in any way unrealistic to play the game different from a FPS with FFA enabled mate. Thats the way the bridgebrigades actually play it, its like having quake on one screen and irc on the other, FFA and chat on irc. Bridgezerging and chat on /gu. Same thing really. :/
Shike said:
You just sketched a classic example of a public quake/enemy territory/fear/{insert FPS game name} server
Yes that is the way it goes, because it is probably the way people want to play.
Now having a look at what is fg vs fg -
This is what FPS-clans do in a competitive environment, as in clan wars/cup wars/(nations cup), playing 6 vs 6, 8 vs 8, 10 vs 10 for a cupwar/(nations cup)/clanwar BUT with certain rules (server settings, client settings) .....if people choose not to play because of these rules (which is imho entirely up to them) they will not participate in this setup.
So my point here is, both scenarios are similar to FPS games scenarios. The only difference is, GOA can make game rules in this game, as far as Im concerned noone else can for this game. Since there arent any official rules made by GOA for 8 vs 8 ect. kind of setups, people will try make rules themselves, but that doesnt mean everyone plays by them...
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Ive almost forgotten what the argument is about.
As I read it, Mul and certain others object to people reqesting that they:
Not take relics early in the morning
Leave the relic situation as it is
Not to kill soloers
Not to run over duelers
Not to zerg around bridges
Mul and others enjoy the opposite of the above.
Mul, in a nutshell is that it?
As I read it, Mul and certain others object to people reqesting that they:
Not take relics early in the morning
Leave the relic situation as it is
Not to kill soloers
Not to run over duelers
Not to zerg around bridges
Mul and others enjoy the opposite of the above.
Mul, in a nutshell is that it?
