My little RvR movie

[Theseus]

... and what is it with rangers never using their bows?

Because the bow has become a useless tool against most classes.
Unless you are a towerhumper you will find yourself fighting toe to toe. Sniping is no more a valid option with the current situation and classabilities.

The archers primary targets : Caster are easier to kill in melee then with bow because off their increased defense since OF(toa). Scouts block all shots, so does every shieldtank.

The only targets ranger can still hunt for are now other stealthers...it is quite boring for 1 , but you can also see why you dont need a bow unless you only wait and add like a fair bunch seems to be doing... .


PS: Apologies Kagato...
More on-topic: Great vid mate and it was indeed a fun fight (i did not like my strafing but that just means it was necessary )

 

[Flimgoblin]

u got gov debuff

honestly flim go pole arm and parry. you will tear me a near one.

Aha, that'll be it.

Nah that's no fun. Crossbow for the win!


Fair do's theseus was meant more in a "why can't they at least shoot my shield once so I know it's a ranger and not a NS coz I'm too fick to realise otherwise"

and I really ought to download this video to home so I can watch it and actually be on topic. (it's been sitting on my desktop at work for days but not got around to it)

 

[Siktifil_Pis_Siker]

great movie :worthy: , wish had such duo partner with BG tho hehe nvm me. I am also warlord and it is much better than sojourner for me as a minstrel, I am still ml7 tho and having a break from daoc atm... ml10 ability 25% abs is great, not to forget ml8 ability which is uber . But tbh I chose warlord since i have ml10 sojourner ranger already , but i am really satisfied with it...

 

[Punishment]

if u fail 2 kill things solo.... do what 99% of stealthers do run in grps of 2+ had some fun with some hib stealthers/vamps coming out of eras lastnite killed every one of them solo so they ended up teaming up on me as a grp of 8 :eek2:

Eh Duzic remember Terminater the infil who used to give u close 50/50 duels in goth by healer xD

Well i rerolled hib and now i have a rr5 shieldtank too hows about we have a little getogether and afew duels ... eh...eh

 

[Talivar]

Uber vid kagato as i would expect from you and jeez lol ppl telling u how to play.Ppl really need to remeber this is a game not an exam where u can only pass if u do it a certain way.Kagato plays kagato wins and thats all that should count, how he achieves this is his choice and maybe is what works best for him
P.S studied all your fights vs the vamps so be rdy when im 50

 

[Frozensolid]

Nice vid mate

 

[rvn]

Almost tempted to lend you my ranger and you can have a go at say an SM, or a BD, or a Sorc, or a cabby, or a warlock....

after playing it for while you would come to the conclusion that the above statement is way off the mark. (theres a hell of a lot more to it than that and casters classes differ in the challenges they present)

(yer FZ is a gr8 tool for taking down mages)

ive got my own rr4 ranger that managed to kill casters, solo 1on1 were not a problem if they didnt jump me when i was doing other shit

(yeah sometimes cabalists pet insta stun youa fter first arrow and its bs )

i never attack casters that are running around, allways make sure i get 2 crit shots off

 

[rvn]

Almost tempted to lend you my ranger and you can have a go at say an SM, or a BD, or a Sorc, or a cabby, or a warlock....

after playing it for while you would come to the conclusion that the above statement is way off the mark. (theres a hell of a lot more to it than that and casters classes differ in the challenges they present)

(yer FZ is a gr8 tool for taking down mages)

oh and anything w/o a pet is alot easier to take down: rm,wizard,theurgist,warlock,sorc that has no pet charmed .

cause then you can pop bt (can on most, as they are very semi afk when camping places/bridges).

 

[Kagato]

I just disagree with those claiming you play with perfection when you stand /faced 90% of all fights and never use any positionals

Perhaps before you criticize me for not using positionals you should actually learn what you talk about and look at the pole styles?

Strongest style at my disposal is a reactionary based of the enemy using a style against me, which hits roughly as hard as a PA has 1.2 growth rate and heavy bleed damage and is not uncommon for me to hit over 1k damage with.

Now why the hell would I want to strafe around like a lunatic trying to get off a lower damage positional and risking misses with a slow two-handed weapon when I can stand faced and punish the enemy with my best style every time they hit me?

Learn to play yourself before you tell me how to mate.

In my old template my damage cap with best positionals was 756, my reactionary cap was 853 +

Do the maths yourself.

Havent tested the caps with my new template yet but it shouldn't be much different.

 

[Belomar]

Lorfo pwned. And laughably easy too--as expected. Kagato - Lorfo, 1 - 0 and we're coming up on full time.

 

[Mazzaca]

Pretty slick to try bashing Kagato without even having checked polestyles beforehand <3

 

[rvn]

stun style would definatly be worth it, then you wouldnt have to WL dump on half your enemys.

 

[Kagato]

stun style would definatly be worth it, then you wouldnt have to WL dump on half your enemys.

Its nice, at least for making the enemy waste purge.

If you notice in the very first fight I used the rear postional opener on the vamps DI bot then transfered the follow up stun style onto the vamp himself to stun him whilst I finished of the bot.

Nice on paper but he could simply purge and carry on which is exactly what he did.

Defenders Rage's damage won me the fight, Defenders Revenge's stun did not.

Obviously this wont always be the case and sure I love the stun, but the only way to land it is to use lame-walk through tactics and even then anyone with the slightest bit of common sense will be moving back to stop you trying to get a rear positional off so most of the time all you succeed in doing is wasting 20 seconds learning the enemy is not noob enough to let you get the chain that could of been spent hitting them like a truck.

I do try and get positional stun as and when the situration allows, in a one on one I wont bother unless its a caster not using /face that im charging.

In short Rage is far more reliable for getting the enemy down quick vs anything that can style.

Incidently all but 1 of my Warlord abilities is on a 5 minute timer, one is even only a 2 minute timer, dumping them all in most fights is no big deal and I usually fight with the expection that i'll get added on, if I don't then no harm done.

 

[vintervargen]

does it not get boring to play something which takes so little skill?

that is really not meant to be offensive, its like, you do your thing, spec af - HoTbuff, wl abilities.. same thing over and over (when you manage to find melee-enemies) etc.

 

[censi]

buffed resists, 900AF?, 3000 HP, 25% absorb buff, IP, style that was hitting me for like 700 damage.

I tell ya though with like battler or malice in 1 hand slot for the /use2's I reckon you could wipe a FG of stealthers. That would be a damn funny thing to watch.

 

[Narco]

u and Ialkarn r the only armsman i respect...nice movie m8

 

[Kagato]

no where near 900 AF actually, and only 26XX hits if scetpre is down, my 3000 hit template was my old one, now I have less hits and more parry and better pole.

I might get battler eventualy but I cba with artis and scrolls and exping etc.



vint - skill? theres no skill in this game just good knowledge of enemies and what you can do, you only need basic normal reaction speed nothing special to play any class. Im good at making the most of my styles in the right situration, other classes are no doubt good at facing and quickcasting the right spells, you learn the knack you need for the class but to say one needs more skill then the other is just trying to boost peoples ego's.
As for melee enemies I only wish that were all that I fought, I have shit loads of clips of me 2 shotting and 3 shotting spellcasters and support classes from brehons to rr 10's and even warlocks, to me though they were dull clips and not very interesting. I enjoy melee fights so thats what I included, unless you stand behind me watching me play don't try and tell me im only good vs meleers.

 

[Belomar]

Sigh, let's not go to the "skill or no skill" discussion again.

 

[Marc]

Lorfo pwned. And laughably easy too--as expected. Kagato - Lorfo, 1 - 0 and we're coming up on full time.

haha

 

[Mirt]

strafing to get positionals off/make them miss their styles on a /faced opponent = lame imo. You shouldn't be relying on network latency to win your fights for you. Glad Kagato doesn't have to rely on that

I disagree. Kagato doesn't strafe because he doesn't need to (in fact unless you're careful when strafing you will harm yourself because the code will make you miss).

Some classes (VW for example) absolutly have to strafe to have any chance.

Ofc I don't play VW much any more, and I don't strafe much on Vampiir as it's not needed.

 

[Bracken]

Sigh, let's not go to the "skill or no skill" discussion again.

Funny how it's the same old suspects trying to bring that into it aint it? Pity they can't just accept that Kagato has cut a niche for himself in the game which people respect him for, he enjoys his fights and others enjoy fighting him. Plus he's made a video that folks have enjoyed watching. Reckon they should just leave it at that.

 

[Docs]

Kagato, do you have battler cred?

Regarding lvling it unless the spot is occupied you can always keep it at your hip and slowly lvl it in RvR

 

[Flimgoblin]

I disagree. Kagato doesn't strafe because he doesn't need to (in fact unless you're careful when strafing you will harm yourself because the code will make you miss).

Some classes (VW for example) absolutly have to strafe to have any chance.

Ofc I don't play VW much any more, and I don't strafe much on Vampiir as it's not needed.

I saw the one vw strafing a bit to get his styles off... not keen on that but it's nothing like what one fellow in that video (I think it was Theseus?) was doing spinning around and around and around - made me dizzy watching it

 

[eggy]

Can hamsters even strafe?

 

[vintervargen]

Funny how it's the same old suspects trying to bring that into it aint it? Pity they can't just accept that Kagato has cut a niche for himself in the game which people respect him for, he enjoys his fights and others enjoy fighting him. Plus he's made a video that folks have enjoyed watching. Reckon they should just leave it at that.

you reckon alot bracken, we know that ty.

why would anyone wanna keep on playing a class where the outcome of a fight only depends on what class/eq/rr the enemy is? that must be (imo) very, very dull.

 

[Marc]

you reckon alot bracken, we know that ty.

why would anyone wanna keep on playing a class where the outcome of a fight only depends on what class/eq/rr the enemy is? that must be (imo) very, very dull.

I find you incredibly dull, yet i still read your posts.

 

[Bracken]

why would anyone wanna keep on playing a class...

Shit...could it be because he enjoys it?

 

[Dorin]

nice movie, had a thid alt arms... pole ftw ! (crush against hib stealthers = ))

heavy tanks are sure annoying to kill with a stealther

 

[Serathule]

Nice vid kag.. but try to pan cam some in next movie

 

[Layne]

cool to finally see a rvr vid from a armsman pov , i liked it