My little RvR movie

liloe

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was funny to watch =) You are very resistant to melee attacks it seems to me =)
 

Dumle

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Zoia said:
I can't remember seeing a video from you, Puppet.
Are you still trying to record a fight where you are playing perfectly?


You can download it, it used to be on the Prydwen RvR section.

I do agree that it is a good idea to carry a cold LW, there are more armortypes than plate that it is good against (Studded is 5% vuln (Hunters/Scouts/Zerks) and if you manage to debuff you will do more damage with a cold LW against a mincer than you will with pierce) but its up to everyone to choose.

Im one of those ppl that tend to try and maximize on every benefit possible to me, some dont care and thats fine with me :)


Puppet seems to have a way of saying things in a not nice manner at times, but he is probably the best ranger I have ever had the misfortune of crossing blades with, so Id assume he knows what hes talking about. ;)
 

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Dumle said:
You can download it, it used to be on the Prydwen RvR section.
Now that you mention it, i think i have it on my HD. :)
I'm sure Puppet is a good player and know a lot about this game, i have no doubt about that.

I'm not defending Censi and friends, cause i don't really like them much myself. :p
Ever since Censi, way back in OF at amg/Odin's, zephyred me from stealth so his 3-4 friends could gank me, i have actually wanted them dead(in game, of course!) :)
I just think Puppet should try and not analyze every DAoC movie so much and just take it for what it is.
 

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Like censi said, if the wanted to win they woulda zerged him down
Instead they went in one at a time, and you can even see Censi emoting a /charge from his grassy knoll.

So instead of looking at a shit play or choice regarding weapon types, appreciate it for what it is, 5 people playing a GAME, having fun, and providing the rest of us with a very memorable clip, certainly more fun to watch than if they had all pulled out cold leggies and simply ganked him.
 

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stubbe said:
You'd do about twice as well if you had Malice (dunno if you can have that as pole) and SoM.. or at least battler in 1h-slot for charge :p
Anyway, nice vid.. very uncomplicated melee pwnage :p but still enjoyable, and don't listen to the ppl complaining about the music, they have no feel for the golden age of rock n roll! :cheers: gj

SoM is over rated I think and its 24 utility is laughable. Malice cannot be pole, the only artifact pole is Spear of Kings which is hugefuly disapointing, its what I used to use.

The pole is 5.6 speed, i'd prefer slower but its the only option, with theurgist buff and proc that becomes roughly 1.8 swing with my current template.

Thanks for the positive comments all, I did want to wait for some more good fights but I wanted to get this finished before cluster also to keep it all with excal people, though I don't want to scare the pryddy stealthers away :p
 

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som2 is hardly overrated, its extremely powerfull in 1on1, especially if you combine it with extremely high abs (then you can end up takeing 0 dmg against 3 - 4 opponents at the same time)

sok as pole wouldnt be a bad coice, as its procc is very good for soloing (style reduction ablative).

winged helm is extremely usefull if soloing aswell, especially agains stealthers who have high Growth rate styles available in CS line.

2h specc would be supperior if you would use the positionals more often (get choice of battler/malice arti), and get 9/8sec stun's as #2 in pos chain - you have one in pole back pos yet you only used it once on an afk stuck bot. (battler even has good util.)

music was ok, nice to hear different music.

judgeing this movie from roleplaying a stubborn armsman who refuses to be "coward" enough to use shield when archers attack him and just absorb it all like a "tank", or to run thru to get advantage with styles, or to pan to see whats going on around him, or to use artifacts to his benefit this is a good movie.

however id prefer to see a movie where the player pushes the char to its limit.
 

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running around spamming anytime and still killing stuff.
Overpowered 1vs1 class
 

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What about scepter of meritorious in 1h and spear of kings as 2h pole? When both charges used you would have 4%+5% extra hp and AF, as they stack. Should be really crazy on an armsman ;p
 

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Coldbeard said:
What about scepter of meritorious in 1h and spear of kings as 2h pole?
He already has the Scepter on his hip--haha, busted, Kagato! :D
 

Runolas

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Kagato said:
Runolas, Thunder are brilliant, their last album Shooting at the Sun was great, but non of the songs we're suitible of that album.
Yes, I think so too. Some old rock'n roll. Brings back memories of my gf at the...hehe.
 

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FFS KAGATO !!!! In that movie you see me get powned for the first time ! :mad: Anyway nice dueling you hihi :clap: gonna watch the movie now , and skip the part where i got ownerized.... :mad: baj baj , make more ! and PM me with your msn i want reduel :cheers:
 

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rvn said:
som2 is hardly overrated, its extremely powerfull in 1on1, especially if you combine it with extremely high abs (then you can end up takeing 0 dmg against 3 - 4 opponents at the same time)

sok as pole wouldnt be a bad coice, as its procc is very good for soloing (style reduction ablative).

winged helm is extremely usefull if soloing aswell, especially agains stealthers who have high Growth rate styles available in CS line.

2h specc would be supperior if you would use the positionals more often (get choice of battler/malice arti), and get 9/8sec stun's as #2 in pos chain - you have one in pole back pos yet you only used it once on an afk stuck bot. (battler even has good util.)

however id prefer to see a movie where the player pushes the char to its limit.

If SoM is so brilliant its funny im still able to kill those relying on it. I simply don't think its worth the hassle

SoK as pole IS a bad choice, it was in my first template and I used it for a year. The proc rarely goes of, absorbs about 30-45 damage of styled hits only and only helps if it fires right at the very start of a fight, and still has crap utility, and the speed is identical to my current pole.

No 2H spec is inferior in every single way to polearm, I did a heavy investigation into it a few months ago to make sure, the style options are identical to polearm right down to the 2 chain 9 second positional stun, polearm has everything that 2H has but with far far superior damage and growth rates. 2H is fine for paladins but for a class with the choice between 2H and pole, pole is superier, the artifact choice is better for 2H but i've already clearly stated my opinion of artifacts.

As for pushing to the limits, right whatever.
 

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Lorfo said:
running around spamming anytime and still killing stuff.
Overpowered 1vs1 class

If you actually bothered to look at the message box you'd see im actually relying on the powerful reactionary chains and using anytimes only as back ups. Or are you dense enough to assume that anyone not strafing about like a lunatic for positionals can only use anytimes?
 

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Coldbeard said:
What about scepter of meritorious in 1h and spear of kings as 2h pole? When both charges used you would have 4%+5% extra hp and AF, as they stack. Should be really crazy on an armsman ;p

That was my old spec it gave me about 3055 hit points, 3085 if I maxed my bonus con.

My new spec and template for heavier parry is paying of so far though more then the extra hits.
 

Lorfo

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Kagato said:
If you actually bothered to look at the message box you'd see im actually relying on the powerful reactionary chains and using anytimes only as back ups. Or are you dense enough to assume that anyone not strafing about like a lunatic for positionals can only use anytimes?
I just disagree with those claiming you play with perfection when you stand /faced 90% of all fights and never use any positionals
 

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He doesnt need run through or strafe or whatever is required is prolly the point. Its not like he isnt capable of doing it. just dont need to.

That follow up style on a the parry opener hurts....

my main whine is got to the stage where every reasonably high RR visual character is virtually unkillable (to me anyways)... I dont mind being watered down as I have "stealth" but its soooooooo unbalanced it aint even funny.

its just really nice to fight kagato though. His overpoweredness is a refreshing change from the usuall moc and lifetap or emptying 3 chambers or ml10 pet chomping on your ass.
 

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my main whine is got to the stage where every reasonably high RR visual character is virtually unkillable (to me anyways)...

I'm sure that's damn annoying, but just imagine what it would be like if you could win more often than loose.

Well you're a realm mate so that wouldn't be a problem, but you could reasnobly expect other stealthers from alb/mid to simmilarly uber, and if that was the case I simply wouldn't solo, and I'm sure a lot of other visibles wouldn't either. We'd get ganked silly and it would be a waste of time.

I suspect that assasins in general need a boost, I don't particularly fear PA at all on the VW, and it's only a problem on the Vampiir if they get a huge crit with a heater (and that's only if I don't see them coming).
 

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yer but the type of imbalance Im talking about is not even close to being 50/50 in terms of win and loose.

its more a case of XXXXX is unkillable unless basically AFK. That just aint right...

from my point of view anyway... I can understand the philosphy that if u dont play a stealther then you aint really gonna give a rats ass. in fact its good like this.
 

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stealthers used to be theones running around killing everything on sight, and they are still very powerfull, so i fail to see what you are trying to say.

nothing should be unkillable as ranger exept shield tank.
 

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censi said:
yer but the type of imbalance Im talking about is not even close to being 50/50 in terms of win and loose.

Tanks should be able to take stealthers down most of the time 1v1 , all things being equal. Against casters though it should be the other way round. I've always thought of the "traditional" food chain as casters-kill-tanks-kill-stealthers-kill casters... :)
 

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its pretty much like that too, archers eat up anything w/o shield, especially with zephyr, and casters shouldnt be able to beat an archer if the archer knows what hes doing.
 

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if u fail 2 kill things solo.... do what 99% of stealthers do run in grps of 2+ :( had some fun with some hib stealthers/vamps coming out of eras lastnite killed every one of them solo so they ended up teaming up on me as a grp of 8 :eek2:
 

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i got beaten alot by rangers/scout untill i finally respecced to charge2/ip2 since what to do when the ranger/scout did fz on ya and when u finally get out of it u been shooting full of arrows for 500 a piece ... so archerclasses with ip 2 also ... anyway ( i'm to tired to check how i have spelled now ) before rr4 on my zerk i got beaten alot now it's more a 80% win and 20% loose , that's when i miss more then i hit so ofc i will loose, no one can determine the miss/evade rate but my odds have risen anyway :)
 

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Kagato said:
If SoM is so brilliant its funny im still able to kill those relying on it. I simply don't think its worth the hassle

SoM vs 2h hardly matter, but vs dualwielding rangers? yesh i think it does.
 

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casters shouldnt be able to beat an archer if the archer knows what hes doing.

Almost tempted to lend you my ranger and you can have a go at say an SM, or a BD, or a Sorc, or a cabby, or a warlock....

after playing it for while you would come to the conclusion that the above statement is way off the mark. (theres a hell of a lot more to it than that and casters classes differ in the challenges they present)

(yer FZ is a gr8 tool for taking down mages)
 

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strafing to get positionals off/make them miss their styles on a /faced opponent = lame imo. You shouldn't be relying on network latency to win your fights for you. Glad Kagato doesn't have to rely on that :)

Dunno why but my armsman seems to do better against censi's RR 10(?) NS than against the RR7 NS's :( maybe I'm just lucky against him :) or that he doesn't fight like he's on a roundabout.
 

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Urgluf said:
maybe because censi is a ranger and not a NS?

meh I thought he had one of each ;) duh me, just checked Censimilia(which I thought was a NS) is indeed a ranger and Censi (which I thought was his ranger) is a bard.

I'll go back to sleep, coulda sworn he'd poisoned me or something... and what is it with rangers never using their bows?

I need to spend more time on irc !infoing people :p
 

censi

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u got gov debuff :)

honestly flim go pole arm and parry. you will tear me a near one.
 

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