My beard. :'(

Alkoran

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Does nobody enjoy a good debate anymore?
The purpose of the Fact -> Logic -> New Fact approach is that it explains the reasoning behind opinions and allows people to weigh up the virtues of an arguement and challenge the individual premices or the validity of logical steps without a heavy reliance on personal experience. Thus allowing people from very different experiences to better understand one anothers' views.

My ideas are not set in stone. I was raised mostly as a scientist of which one of the important things I learned was that I can never be sure I won't be proved wrong. It happens all the time. Infact, I'd invite people to do it. I'd rather be shown to be wrong and then better understand something, than be wrong for far longer and not know it. The points presented are not in "defence" of my point of view rather they are the source of it. In other words if doubt can be raised regarding these points then doubt is raised in my view of the subject as a whole and thus is my opinion changed.

If you don't have the time for a discussion then that's ok, but please don't leave it because of a belief that I cannot be reasoned with. I enjoy being taught.
 

Vepo

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Ok lets look at it this way, teachers are meant to set an example for the kids that go to there school. By this they need to dress smartly (apart from the P.E teachers) then need to be clean etc etc.

If they want kids not to have beards or whatever then the teachers themselves should set an example and be cleanly shaven. A school will never get a bad reputation just because of a real bearded, long haired kids. They will get a bad reputation for inforcing illegal rules and forcing them to shave/clean themselve etc etc or be kicked out of school.

If you took this matter to the education minster they would say the same thing.
 

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Meh school is a all boys school (piss off with the jokes alrdy :p, this has some relevance in the post) and we are also no allowed beards or... long hair! (there it is) If your hair is below your jaw line your told to get it cut, even though long hair seems to be the 'in thing' atm so quite a few have it.

I also had to shave my beard today going back lol.

I also like the idea of uniform, apart from the blazer. It means less having to find crap to wear each day (no im not poor and I have a fair amount of cloths but still) if it aint washed or such and such and imo can make a person look 'cool' (if worn the right way ofc).
 

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I love my suit, it's all funky. Long hair is allowed in my school, but not hair shorter than a No. 3 cut. You know, so the stupid chavs don't look so much like stupid chavs.
 

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Loxleyhood said:
I love my suit, it's all funky. Long hair is allowed in my school, but not hair shorter than a No. 3 cut. You know, so the stupid chavs don't look so much like stupid chavs.


\o/
 

Loxleyhood

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Heh, I've been reading my school rules - specifically my sixth form contract (which I have actually yet to renew this year) and I quote,

Hair must be clean and of a natural colour, and no shorter than a number three hair cut.

This is all it says.... so if somehow I grow a beard to greater than a No.3 cut, I'm in the clear! :D
 

Vepo

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You will find a lot of schools won't have such a stupid rule because of the actions taken against them by the kids or parents.
 

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Yeah... but that kind of letigious society where people get sued over such stupid things is such a shame.
 

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haha suxs to be you =) i always get around such rules search for loop holes :m00:
 

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Loxleyhood said:
I love my suit, it's all funky. Long hair is allowed in my school, but not hair shorter than a No. 3 cut. You know, so the stupid chavs don't look so much like stupid chavs.

That's a bit narrow-minded to say that anyone with very short hair is a chav.
 

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Dillinja said:
That's a bit narrow-minded to say that anyone with very short hair is a chav.
what new? loxleyhood has always been ignorant :)
 

Loxleyhood

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That's the logic our school has based the rule on though..... I think it's a pretty old rule......... my town was the scene of a massive BNP (or something) race riot in the 70s and I think it comes from then. No skinheads.

I'm not generalising that all people with short hair are chavs, or all people who wear baseball caps are, or even that Conch is a retard, but you have to admit that that's usually the case.
 

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Conchabar said:
haha suxs to be you =) i always get around such rules search for loop holes :m00:

I did that Conchabar,

It my school rules said that "You could not bring in cigarettes or lighters/matches" but it never said anything about smoking in school.

They had to changed the school rules because of me and few hundred people. :p
 

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Vepo said:
I did that Conchabar,

It my school rules said that "You could not bring in cigarettes or lighters/matches" but it never said anything about smoking in school.

They had to changed the school rules because of me and few hundred people. :p
lol I like that one.

Ive always wanted to take up the school rules with someone and demand they be changed! Coz of the stupid ones like no beards and no long hair or no really short hair, or no coloured hair, etc etc. I dont think it fairs to not let someone do as they please with their body, ofc you can keep in 'not allowed to commit suicide while on school grounds' and smoking, since it damages other peoples health :twak:
 

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i wear a suit to college, buts that because i pine for 1978, the jam at the top of the hit parade and a vespa.
 

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i dont think theres any schools with clothing rules and stuff in sweden, sounds really stupid to me. but ofc maybe theres some private schools and stuff with that shit. isnt it everyones own right to choose how they wish to present themselves? i know for sure i wouldnt go to a school wich had rules like that..
 

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Dillinja said:
That's a bit narrow-minded to say that anyone with very short hair is a chav.
I hate to say it, but very short hair really does just make you look like a chav.

I'm growing my hair longer at the moment, my Dad keeps saying I look like a girl.

WELL FUCK HIM!

:mad:
 

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Pippic said:
i dont think theres any schools with clothing rules and stuff in sweden, sounds really stupid to me. but ofc maybe theres some private schools and stuff with that shit. isnt it everyones own right to choose how they wish to present themselves? i know for sure i wouldnt go to a school wich had rules like that..

ah well, according to UN sweden and norway are the 2 best countrys to live in :)
 

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Coim said:
WELL FUCK HIM!:mad:
:eek7: think this over first! Are you sure thats what you wanna do?!?!

I want to grow my hair long but when it gets medium length it doesnt gel properly and looks crap without any gel. I have the master plan of hiding it with a beanie for this reason but you aint allowed them in school! So I have to wait till next summer to complete my plans!!! Mwahaha!
 

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Yes, yes they do. Well, I kicked the door down and marched back in with defiance but most crawl.
 

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Sissyfoo said:
I thought you quit, bish?
ye i have .. just thought id come back to prove the point i was longer then a week i wont post anymore tomorow dont worry m8 :)
 

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Coim said:
I hate to say it, but very short hair really does just make you look like a chav.

I'm growing my hair longer at the moment, my Dad keeps saying I look like a girl.

WELL FUCK HIM!

:mad:

You're just as ignorant as your dad calling you a girl because you have long hair by saying I'm a chav because my hair is short.
 

Coim

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Dillinja said:
You're just as ignorant as your dad calling you a girl because you have long hair by saying I'm a chav because my hair is short.
ahhHAHH, yuo hafv short hare!!



Yeah. :D
 

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Nomans Land said:
:eek7: think this over first! Are you sure thats what you wanna do?!?!

I want to grow my hair long but when it gets medium length it doesnt gel properly and looks crap without any gel. I have the master plan of hiding it with a beanie for this reason but you aint allowed them in school! So I have to wait till next summer to complete my plans!!! Mwahaha!


bloody hate that medium hair bit. got to it so many times but only managed to push through the pain of looking like a gimp a couple of times. Its easier to grow your hair long in school and even easier at Uni. harder once you get a job where you serve the public. Long hair scares old people.
 

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