Minor QQ at valkeries

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

Kinda agree with necsi and partly what VF said. Shears are annoying - and as a soloer i rather avoid a class that can shear me then fighting them.

 

[Mabs]

Kinda agree with necsi and partly what VF said. Shears are annoying - and as a soloer i rather avoid a class that can shear me then fighting them.

well, in the process of trying to kill you , im really sorry if you are inconvenienced by us

 

[Vodkafairy]

yes i rolled a lock because because hib stealthers complains about minor stuff like buffshears ?

im a bit slow , used to play trolls and stuff , better carve question in stone because it eluded my stony grip this time

was because you say assassins are so op when you're playing one yourself.

 

[Lethul]

and a shaman saying shamans don't need nerfs hm? yes, different topic, but you're comparing one class to an entire realm now? /ponder. 2.0 cast spd shears are ridiculess, no reason shamans don't get 3.0 like anyone else.

well they have 2.0 since clreic has bolt range and druid has more damage

 

[Vodkafairy]

well they have 2.0 since clreic has bolt range and druid has more damage

shaman and cleric shears do damage too no?

 

[Lethul]

shaman and cleric shears do damage too no?

yes, but not as much therefor the word "more"

 

[Vodkafairy]

yes, but not as much therefor the word "more"

ahh right. makes sence now, i can feel the balance!

 

[Kagato]

I agree with Censi, I think its wrong to have a instant buff shear class in the game at all.

I don't think the Valkeryies are over powered, though I do think they are highly under estimated. I'd love to fight more of them.

But the buff shear is fucking annoying still, I can still win, but it means that 1 fight just cost me the rest of my hunting, as i'll have to suicide and go back to rebuff again or risk being penalised for the rest of the time. So I can see why stealthers will never bother attacking one given the option.

 

[Mabs]

fully buffed not completed toa template, got around 1500 weap skill, you try hitting a fully buffed person with a spear with that much WS.
I can empathise with the buffshear problem, but they have to have something to increase their combat output, either self increase ..ie weapskill .. or enemy decrease, like shears. yes debuff would work, but you can purge it, shear is one of the few 'total' spells - once its on you, its done u cannot reverse it

they arent wanted in groups, and people dont want to fight them.. armsmen eat your heart out.



i for one will go on playing mine, and keep being killed by lag strafers , but such is life. If you dont want me to use shear, im ok with that, tell me before hand, and as long as you dont slam, baseline stun, etc were even

 

[LordjOX]

Shears is partly what makes a druid, cleric and shaman fun to play. Dunno about the valk. And I see how this can be annoying as a stealther, but I guess it's the toll you might pay when engaging certain targets
And people with buffshear cloak sacrifice it for the som proc...

 

[Mirt]

Dementia vampiirs can buff shear too (every 10-15s or so), it's a random buff and is just as likely to get rid of water breathing as a d/q buff.

Still it must be pretty irritating to have to use d/q charges or go back and rebuff after fighting a valk (or a vamp).

 

[Otho]

feels wierd complaine how shear is op because after fight against valk (and win) you need get rebuff

Yes, poor stealthers that have to worry about that after they won a fight they need to rebuff, how sad.

 

[Agrigo]

Lol , Valk whine
Get A krojers Dex ring , some +% buff and get on with it.

 

[dub]

was because you say assassins are so op when you're playing one yourself.

my point was rather that when playing my sb it wouldnt annoy me to loose a buff if i'd win a fight , if i die its obviously not a problem to loose it , hence im concluding that the life as hib stealther might be to easy when they complaining bout stuff like this

 

[Vodkafairy]

my point was rather that when playing my sb it wouldnt annoy me to loose a buff if i'd win a fight , if i die its obviously not a problem to loose it , hence im concluding that the life as hib stealther might be to easy when they complaining bout stuff like this

hib stealther has no advantage when fighting a valkyrie compared to a mid one (if they could), so i fail to see your point. its just that the valk class needs a lot of work, and a low rr one doesn't have a huge chance to win against any kind of stealther... i think

then again i dont know the class well, so i might be completely wrong. ill pick up a krojer dex ring from housing and hope there's some out to fight soon!

 

[Agrigo]

hib stealther has no advantage when fighting a valkyrie compared to a mid one (if they could), so i fail to see your point. its just that the valk class needs a lot of work, and a low rr one doesn't have a huge chance to win against any kind of stealther... i think

then again i dont know the class well, so i might be completely wrong. ill pick up a krojer dex ring from housing and hope there's some out to fight soon!

If you dont evaid i can take 2k hp in 4 hits without crits then magic .... that is if you dont evaid and i actully hit you .......

 

[Lejemorder]

a full decked out valk there is rr5+ should have no problems what so ever with stealthers (hence another reason not to attack em)

 

[Mabs]

hib stealther has no advantage when fighting a valkyrie compared to a mid one (if they could), so i fail to see your point. its just that the valk class needs a lot of work, and a low rr one doesn't have a huge chance to win against any kind of stealther... i think

then again i dont know the class well, so i might be completely wrong. ill pick up a krojer dex ring from housing and hope there's some out to fight soon!

2100 hp, fuck all weapskill...
20 sec DD - 117 delve -anytime
30 sec frontal cone DD - 100 delve -stationary
1min frontal cone D/Q shear on same timer as 1 min Acu cone shear - stationary
30 sec frontal cone snare - 80% snare for 40s - any time
5 sec pulse frontal cone DD - 43 delve - 3s cast - anytime incl. moving 10% pow/tick ish
group damage proc buff thing
all cones on 700 radius, all damage is spirit

and for spear valks, 2 pbaoe dd procing styles in a chain that eat end (about 20 % a swing, ish)

oh and....
10% ghetto rez for leeching RPs
im 48 OW cos im spear, some people have less tho, but it gives you a rough idea

lots of toys, but ultimately a bit gimped (Apparently)

 

[Void959]

Well shaman can do it plus a lot more with just moc1, and then escape most classes quite easily if they like, and I've seen more solo shaman around than valkyres, so QQ shaman That said they give some of the more interesting fights against a minstrel imo, so all you solo shaman keep it up

And as some people have said, use charges ftw, it won't cost too much as its rare you need to use them. Combine with stardrop to get the full bonus.

 

[Vodkafairy]

sounds like a challenge then, roll on the valkyries?!

 

[Vladamir]

Valk whine?. Hell froze over too i heard

 

[dub]

hib stealther has no advantage when fighting a valkyrie compared to a mid one (if they could), so i fail to see your point. its just that the valk class needs a lot of work, and a low rr one doesn't have a huge chance to win against any kind of stealther... i think

then again i dont know the class well, so i might be completely wrong. ill pick up a krojer dex ring from housing and hope there's some out to fight soon!

thought it fairly obvious what my point was , ill try carve in stone this time , if you perceive being buffsheared as a real annoyance i think your class might be in the OP section.

most are happy if they win fights , but hib stealthers seem to have a different point of view ?

 

[Vodkafairy]

thought it fairly obvious what my point was , ill try carve in stone this time , if you perceive being buffsheared as a real annoyance i think your class might be in the OP section.

most are happy if they win fights , but hib stealthers seem to have a different point of view ?

no im basing it on the fact that even IF you kill a valk, it always leaves you crippled. this might make people avoid valks, even if they can kill them. result is, less/no fights for the valk. isnt this a bad thing for both the valk and the enemy?

i didn't mean to say valks are shit and they die every time i even breathe in its general direction, but its so annoying i cant get free rps and keep all my buffs.

just no idea what a proper valk is capable of, just havnt fought enough to say anything about that. only ones i met so far are very low rr and possibly no even properly equipped.

 

[auroria]

i have a valk lvl 44! gonne toa it with 1.81 and own dem stealthers with shear :>

oh and mabs its on 5 min timer

 

[Agrigo]

i have a valk lvl 44! gonne toa it with 1.81 and own dem stealthers with shear :>

oh and mabs its on 5 min timer

The Yellow version of both shears is on 5 min timer , spec 48 for Vindictive Bite <aoe d/q shear> and 49 for aoe Aqui Shear in Odins and its on 1min RUT

 

[auroria]

didnt know that, nice

 

[xxManiacxx]

u will prob see me out with valk considering I am gonna do a movie with him

 

[Jobbegea]

i think valks are pretty nice.
the spearstyles are the best there is in midgard + 2 different damage types.

they could fit nice in a tank group for their 6sec backstun.

 

[Devilseye]

maybe instead of shearing the buff. they should make it a lets say.. 30secs or so dex/qui debuff for the same amount? dunno =]
PS. not read all pages so might have been said before =]

 

[Maeloch]

Well just don't attack em and quit moaning, least u have the luxury of choosing. Wait till they blow the buff strips on a mage or something then kill the valk.