Mids in emain, a general thanks for playing way you did today

[Sagano]

if people wouldnt zerg everything that enters emain from breifine or what comes out of apk there would be alot more random alb and hib groups out which means more fights for everyone and more important lower rrs actually get something to fight that aint rr6+

but nooo you pay you need every rp you can get etc so add on all so only the gankgroups are left and then ofc whine becoz you cant win anymore add even more so even the last random grps dont come out anymore

ty for screwing rvr for everyone

adds and zerg are part of the game and happen but that doesnt mean you have to make a sport or habit out of it

there are more stealthers at amg emain at 4 in the morning on prydwen then stealthers in emain at primetime avalon such good rvr scene we got atm

 

[DaggerElivager]

but nooo you pay you need every rp you can get etc so add on all so only the gankgroups are left and then ofc whine becoz you cant win anymore add even more so even the last random grps dont come out anymore

ty for screwing rvr for everyone

adds and zerg are part of the game and happen but that doesnt mean you have to make a sport or habit out of it

QUOTE]

um look at my sig lol..i really do just try and get max rp's dont i

i have fun and i wont have my fun screwed up by some leet twat swearing at me to do something he wants me to do thanks.

and i dont make a sport or habit out of it, i mostly soloed with all chars i have played even mystik and died shit loads and enjoyed fghts but im not gonna be told wot to do by leet people who swear at me.

oh and find me a thread where i whined about i cant win anymore??? i have never been ubah or anything and i've even sat for hours in odin's and HW on my own and am happy with 1 or 2 fights an hour so dont give me crap about whineing thanks.

and thats not a condoning adding etc and saying its great its saying i play how i want as shud every person in daoc.

 

[Puppet]

So what are the random ppl in rvr supposed to do then? Dont go out to rvr? They cant add on anything as its against the good rvr groups codec, and if they dont they gonna get farmed by the good rvr groups from the other realms? Come on...

Do you think thát? ????

Oki I will explain: If 80 Mids and 8 Hibs in Emain; and those 8 Hibs have pleasant fights... they tell that in the alliance.. So other Hibs come too.. and more... and more... same way Mids do prolly.

Now soon enough you get 'random Hibs' in Emain and voilla a fun fight for the random Mids.

 

[Zapsi]

Our Allince can say ML10 ml7 same time and still 80 mids emain :/

Tho 20+ are BBs and an other 20 are stealthers.

Is silly when u make 20k atealst from killing alb stealthers in an evning, God bless wow for now and lets hope they merge some servers, cant see prydwen getting better with ranger scouts hunters being even better in NF.

 

[Kraben]

Do you think thát? ????

Oki I will explain: If 80 Mids and 8 Hibs in Emain; and those 8 Hibs have pleasant fights... they tell that in the alliance.. So other Hibs come too.. and more... and more... same way Mids do prolly.

Now soon enough you get 'random Hibs' in Emain and voilla a fun fight for the random Mids.

So am I wrong in assuming that random mids now are supposed to bite it in them and fight and lose all the time as they cant get rp's from adding anymore? This goes for albs as well if they are the ones in great numbers in emain.
Dont get me wrong I think its cool and all you hibs had a nice rvr night last night and I hope it can continue. Just funny that its the high rr players with a somewhat steady circle of ppl who KNOW they can be semi/fully competive that tries to dictate how the rest of the server should be playing this game..
Again speaking for SC's GG we _always_ try not to add on fighting hibs/mids/albs where it seems like its a good fgvfg going on - we can have our fights elsewhere and hopefully it will encourage more hibs to come out. But would I expect the same behaviour from random mids doing pickup groups? Hell no.

 

[DaggerElivager]

go kraben \o/

 

[Maleg]

So am I wrong in assuming that random mids now are supposed to bite it in them and fight and lose all the time as they cant get rp's from adding anymore? This goes for albs as well if they are the ones in great numbers in emain.

I don't think people are saying that, from what I've seen this is a FG of Hibs (you'd be lucky if there is more than 1 FG of Hibs in Emain these days) saying thanks for not steamrollering us and giving us a chance to have a fight. Fact is I don't necessarily agree with Valg's language, but how a 'adding' group dieing if you don't add to a fight Valg is already engaged in? Boot on other foot one assumes Valg's group wouldn't jump in on an even fight you're already engaged in.

Dont get me wrong I think its cool and all you hibs had a nice rvr night last night and I hope it can continue. Just funny that its the high rr players with a somewhat steady circle of ppl who KNOW they can be semi/fully competive that tries to dictate how the rest of the server should be playing this game..

All they're asking is that you don't pile in and tip the balance of even fights they're already engaged in. If there is a Hib or Alb Zerg out there then hell no problem. Don't really think they're asking you not to go to Emain, just if they're in a fight and it's even odd's, stroll on by and let them fight (and win or lose).

Again speaking for SC's GG we _always_ try not to add on fighting hibs/mids/albs where it seems like its a good fgvfg going on - we can have our fights elsewhere and hopefully it will encourage more hibs to come out. But would I expect the same behaviour from random mids doing pickup groups? Hell no.

That's the grey area where it get's messy. If you've got an experienced group of Hibs out there and they're the only group and say 5 FG of Mids, 3 of which are experienced and 2 of which are pick up groups. I'd not expect the pick up groups to just stand by and be farmed. I'd hope the experienced groups would know better and stear clear of other even fights, I'd hope the pick up groups wouldn't interfere with the experienced groups fights (even if they're losing vs even odds), but if two pickup groups assisted one another so at least they stayed in the game vs an experienced enemy.... well can't fault them for that. Main problem is this is all well and said here, but near impossible to distinguish 'even' fights in the heat of it all, let alone if it's a experienced group or a pick up group.

Simple fact is due to a number of circumstances (time it's taken to translate NF, NF Beta, WoW Beta) Pryd population is pretty dire and the RvR population is very on sided. Without enemys there is no RvR, getting smashed to peaces by 2 to 3 times your number as soon as you stick your head out gets old fast.

 

[Haroat]

tbh, if you guys want RvR why not attack Relic Keeps. Your bound to get Action 99% of the time.

Also keeps the enemy active

Amphrax
Ucallme

well i did have a rr planned for last night but wasnt enough people about / interested so we made that rvr grp, must admit it was VERY fun when we got over the connection problems a couple of members kept having (me for one ) but i hope for more nights like that.


edit: we had a nice fight vs bo at the start when i think valg must of been asleep till we got the jump in then ofc got steamrolled by 2fg mids, i _think_ we got all of BO first but im not sure, they seemed to arrive as we were killing the last few.

/jetrel

 

[civy]

Big thanks to the mids in emain 11/11 6:30pm. Made cancelling my accounts a no brainer.

On the plus side WoW is a blast.

Murasaki/Dotbot/Petunia/Civy

 

[Sagano]

what puppet said

its so damn easy but some people just dont want to understand

 

[Illtar]

Well try running 2-3-4 ppl instead of full groups. Its not like there isnt enough albs around who play decently well and well equipped etc. Its just damn hard making a working work out of what is at apk. Kinda only way to make a good fg is to have a guild actively making those grps, which is atm rather uncommon for hib/alb. So try going out 2 or 3.

Duoing with a Sorc we can usually get some good fights against 2-5 mids at a time, WHEN we can get through mmg without getting zerged down by a fg of RR8+.

 

[MaditioN]

haha you sad fucks
reallise that's its 80mids+ in emain, we ran around for 2h without a fight, and w00ps a fg hibs, low rr, they attack mids close to silo/amg, we run away to let em have a chance of some fight, the random groups swarm in their bg and zerg em directly.

we run around killing albstealthers for 1h, then we see the randoms getting farmed by tirfo o co and thought finally we can get a decent fg fight!
we know they are mmg'ish, another grp passes us with skaldspeed, they engage hibs, mids dying, we are waiting mmg mid side for 3-4min to let hib rest up for fight, we go in and they come from buffspot in the back of us, we start fight, after 5 sec i see savage conclave m8s storm right into the fight in open landscape, and another fg bd's and about 20'ish stealthers charge for THE MOTHERLAND!

finally when a fg hibs have gotten a grp together on a shitty server as prydwen is atm, mids have to zerg the shit out of the only hibs that cba to rvr and then complain about it aint their fault they are camping amg, its no enemies m8! gw fucktards

watched the hibgrp farm randoms midfookers for a good time after our grp logged, that made my night xd /off to excal again

 

[Ilum]

Do you think thát? ????

Oki I will explain: If 80 Mids and 8 Hibs in Emain; and those 8 Hibs have pleasant fights... they tell that in the alliance.. So other Hibs come too.. and more... and more... same way Mids do prolly.

Now soon enough you get 'random Hibs' in Emain and voilla a fun fight for the random Mids.

Also if you stop attacking the solo, duos etc, they will tell their friends and voila more fun duo fights!

but of course not..

cause at the end of the day all you care about is to rvr as best as possible on your own terms

 

[DaggerElivager]

haha you sad fucks


finally when a fg hibs have gotten a grp together on a shitty server as prydwen is atm, mids have to zerg the shit out of the only hibs that cba to rvr and then complain about it aint their fault they are camping amg, its no enemies m8! gw fucktards

watched the hibgrp farm randoms midfookers for a good time after our grp logged, that made my night xd /off to excal again

have fun on excal...dont be in ne rush to come back.

and that attitude is really gonna help mids stop :touch: yep suuure is

 

[MaditioN]

have fun on excal...dont be in ne rush to come back.
and that attitude is really gonna help mids stop :touch: yep suuure is

excal is way funnier yes, sure they have bigger zergs, but they have alot of more stuff to fight, and they often dont zerg the shit out the only stuff left in emain (xept for albs, its in their nature).

and ill come back to ruin just for you randoms, dno if ur mid or hib, does'nt matter, ** calm down a bit **

 

[DaggerElivager]

excal is way funnier yes, sure they have bigger zergs, but they have alot of more stuff to fight, and they often dont zerg the shit out the only stuff left in emain (xept for albs, its in their nature).

and ill come back to ruin just for you randoms, dno if ur mid or hib, does'nt matter, f00ktards shall die irl!

um look at signatures m8 is a real help....and btw u said i shud die irl aint there sum sorta ban for saying that?? and show me wen i zerged lol i didnt grp so thats kinda hard oh ubah leet one.

 

[Minn]

um look at signatures m8 is a real help....and btw u said i shud die irl aint there sum sorta ban for saying that?? and show me wen i zerged lol i didnt grp so thats kinda hard oh ubah leet one.

If u read valgair's posts, he is not saying at any point that he thinks of himself as uber leet etc.
He is just pointing out that hibbs will log if they get zerged every time they enter emain by some rp horny mids...
(ok maybe he lost his temper, but I cant blame him tbh)

and as elendar said, sure the random mids will get a few rps from add'ing, but they will also make enemies log = no more rps rest of the evening

and then ppl say "shouldnt randoms be allowed to get a few rps? + they wont get rps from anything else besides from add'ing" .. that is bullshit imo, IF mids stopped add'ing/zerging etc, other random grps (hibbs/albs) would come out, which means random grps for the random mids grps...

 

[DaggerElivager]

since wen did i say randoms dont get r's except adding minn?? no where..

if that wasnt aimed at me then nm but if it is...i have got my rp's the way i want (mainly soloing...during summer it was mainly with vatech the hunter for a friend while he was away) and if i see a fight and i see enemies ill fight them...no matter whether theres shit loads of us or them.

and also i cudnt give a shit about rp's...otherwise i wud have chars higher than rr5 ish...i play to have fun and more often than not ill die having fun and not making rp's.

oh and saying "you randoms" etc is basically saying he is lol

 

[Belomar]

finally when a fg hibs have gotten a grp together on a shitty server as prydwen is atm, mids have to zerg the shit out of the only hibs that cba to rvr and then complain about it aint their fault they are camping amg, its no enemies m8! gw fucktards

Well, you are approaching this issue from your own personal perspective, that of a dedicated RvR player (one with a major attitude problem too, I might add--there are plenty of dedicated and skilled RvR:ers who don't have your attitude, which does give me some hope for the human race). However, the truth is that casual players are the vast majority, and this game is not aimed specifically for your kind. That means not playing in opted groups, not having high-end equipment, not having the time to level all your artifacts to 10 (hell, not even have the time to get a lot of artifacts!), and enjoying the game by playing together with friends not necessarily chosen for their skill in RvR. For these people, there is no such thing as "adding" or "stealing" someone's RPs--it's the spirit of the game. You go out in RvR, you have limited time, you come upon enemies and you fight and might even kill and get a few RPs. And if someone of your own realm screams profanities at you for doing so, then who are they to tell you how to play the game?

It is also worth noting that everyone playing this game will sooner or later become a casual player, regardless of how dedicated an attitude they have. Thus, your playtime will be governed by a different set of rules than otherwise. This is worth cogitating over. Try seeing things from not only your own narrow perspective the next time you decide to spout vulgarisms. This goes for a lot of the people posting here.

Dedicated RvR players might be the most skilled RvR:ers in DAoC, but it is the casual players who pay for the servers.

 

[DaggerElivager]

wot he says ^^

 

[Minn]

since wen did i say randoms dont get r's except adding minn?? no where..

if that wasnt aimed at me then nm but if it is...i have got my rp's the way i want (mainly soloing...during summer it was mainly with vatech the hunter for a friend while he was away) and if i see a fight and i see enemies ill fight them...no matter whether theres shit loads of us or them.

and also i cudnt give a shit about rp's...otherwise i wud have chars higher than rr5 ish...i play to have fun and more often than not ill die having fun and not making rp's.

oh and saying "you randoms" etc is basically saying he is lol

well I am kinda random atm also we dont have a gg going much, its kinda mixed, but the nicest guys
And it wasent aimed at you btw, it was kraben... (I still love him though) :wub:

 

[Elendar]

No wonder daoc is dead.. you guys complain there is nothing out to fight and if a random group do move out they get cursed bye there own realm bye players that think they are elite.. sad real sad.. Only time i see a add as something sad is the fullgroups running around that jumps in on one on ones..

or we could say - the only time i see an add as sad is when i lose out not gain

 

[Elendar]

For these people, there is no such thing as "adding" or "stealing" someone's RPs--it's the spirit of the game. You go out in RvR, you have limited time, you come upon enemies and you fight and might even kill and get a few RPs. And if someone of your own realm screams profanities at you for doing so, then who are they to tell you how to play the game?

such nice logic, however if you think ahead, adding so that an enemy doesn't have any chance whatsoever is hardly going to make the game fun for YOU the rest of the evening, as most people won't come back for you to add on at all

 

[MaditioN]

Dedicated RvR players might be the most skilled RvR:ers in DAoC, but it is the casual players who pay for the servers.

when the casualls complain about no enemies because they zerged the shit out of them, they wont pay anymore, kmeight

 

[DaggerElivager]

when the casualls complain about no enemies because they zerged the shit out of them, they wont pay anymore, kmeight

they have paid for the last 3 years

 

[Azathrim]

Baldgrim, it's a lost cause, you cannot make certain people drop the tunnel vision and foolish attitude. Besides, you used too many long words so I doubt he understood half of your post - unfortunately.

 

[Kraben]

HF on Excal, Maelstrom. Hope you find what you have been looking for.

 

[Sagano]

rofl what a joke
all you talk about is yourself , how you as casual player etc play the game
try looking from a different kind of perspective etc some say

ever tried alb or hib view ?
seeing current egoistic mid behaviour clearly not

 

[Xxcalibur]

or could it be add on everything and perhaps get some rp's? Or dont add and get farmed later when you meet the same group? For opted groups I think its great that you try not to add on other fgvfg fights, but give the random ppl a break for crying out loud.. they gotta get rp's some way as well.

can u imagine if 2-3 fg opted grp (alb or hib ) would do the same u do what would had hapenned ? Prolly 2-3 opted fg would farm 4-5 random grps, but they generally never do that cos they try to look for 1 vs 1 fg fights .

Keep doing the same and pryd will die. The months are passing and each time there are less population in alb and in hib.

 

[MaditioN]

Baldgrim, it's a lost cause, you cannot make certain people drop the tunnel vision and foolish attitude. Besides, you used too many long words so I doubt he understood half of your post - unfortunately.

Yes, because you write with Uppercase letters and dot with endings of each sentence it means you are best. Ok. M8.

(and wonder who have tunnel vision ~~)