Lost - Season 4

[Whipped]

A year ago today I started the Lost - Season 3 thread. Seems right to start another one for the next series.

We have to wait till Feburary for our next fix, so in the meantime, what theories do people have about how this next season will play out?

 

[Everz]

that it will get canceled and plymouth will be burnt to a crispy salt flavoured crisp ;D

 

[Overdriven]

Few things we're going to find out, for sure.. No point putting spoilers:

- What Loche did when he went behind the radio tower.
- What happened to the island.
- How they actually got off the island.
- If what Ben said was a lie.
- What happened to the other guys.

Not really a 'omg I want to watch' series, due to how S3 ended. But I'll keep watching till the end.

 

[Yaka]

pretty certain locke stays on the island, perhaps rose and bernard as well,

the "he" kate reffered to is prolly sawyers kid she has

coffin either belongs to ben or sawyer

confusing bit for me is the fact jack dosent know where the island is, which prolly mean dharma took it and covered it all up.

also makes you wonder how they are gonna make more jack based eps now

 

[Raven]

They will go over that hill yonder and find they are in fact on the corner of a holiday resort.

How they will laugh

 

[Tom]

Although it was a flash forward, theres little to suggest that series 4 will start from that flash forward. It may just be an option, episode 1 of series 4 may present an alternative flash forward, and Desmond may be the key to deciding if either is followed.

 

[Overdriven]

What I was thinking honestly. I think the flash foward (the whole, off the island thing) didn't actually happen yet. Maybe they were showing a part of S4 aswell

 

[Clown]

Some interview with one of the writers of lost on why they had to off Charlie.
E! Online

You're a bastard for killing Charlie.
True.

Can we talk about that? 'Cause we fans need to know why you did it.
Yes, of course. Dominic, Carlton and I, and all the writers, really felt that when Charlie threw his Virgin Mary statues into the water last year, that was the end of his addiction arc. We weren't interested in revisiting it and having him bounce between being drunk and being sober, so we began to really struggle with the idea of what was Charlie to play now. How was he going to evolve as a character?
At the very same time, we were starting to think about what the effect of the second season finale was going to be, with Desmond turning the fail-safe key. And we didn't want to kill off Desmond, but because this fail-safe key existed as sort of a last resort, we wanted there to be really severe ramifications for Desmond turning it. We didn't want him to get a free pass. And we felt that it would be cool if it involved time travel in some way. But instead of doing sort of a traditional time travel and creating paradoxes and all that stuff, we just did [the episode] "Flashes Before Your Eyes." When that experience ended, we wanted him to be able to see the future, and we thought it would be cool if [his visions] always kind of related to Charlie and Charlie’s death, as opposed to seeing 50 different things. That way, he would struggle all season with the idea of whether or not Charlie's death was inevitable.

Why Charlie?
We felt that would be a really interesting story for Desmond, but the way it would affect Charlie excited us even more. We thought it would make Charlie enormously heroic. He is a character who I think the audience has really liked, and he has, during the course of the show, demonstrated real heroism. Like when he killed Ethan for example. At the end of season two, we realized that if there was any character on the show who would sacrifice their life so that everyone else could be rescued, that would be Charlie. What we hadn’t decided though, was whether or not Charlie was actually going to die.

So, when did you actually decide to kill him?
Over the course of the year, we began to execute the story, and it was really working. I mean we just loved writing for Charlie. He had this whole new thing to play, and we loved how Dominic was working with Ian [Cusick]. Even with Hurley's more light-hearted story, Charlie's impending death gave it real gravitas. It was just a great storyline, and we were thinking, Is there a way for us to have our cake and eat it too? Can we continue prophesying Charlie's death but not actually have him die, just have him willing to die? But we kind of got to the point—I guess it was during the writing of "The Brig"—where we were all just talking in the writers room and we realized it's a cheat if he lives. It wouldn’t be fair, because we've made such a big story point out of it that Charlie now has to die. If he is going to accept his death, then he has to die. Otherwise, it's like, why did we do this story at all? We can't just let him off the hook. He has to die.

How did you break the news to Dominic?
You know, obviously, we started talking to him before we wrote "Flashes Before Your Eyes," just so he would know what was coming. We told him that as soon as we knew definitively what Charlie's fate was going to be, he'd be the first to know. And when we made the final decision, we called him and had a very reasonable conversation. He was completely understanding and appreciative and accepting.

On a personal level, was it a difficult decision letting him go?
Enormously. When you reflect back on the pilot, it was really Jack, Kate and Charlie's story. They're the three people you experience the crash with. They're the original sort of three amigos who go tromping out into the jungle. I think Dominic is, along with Jorge, really the heart of the show. And the idea of how would the show feel with Charlie not being in it anymore, that was a very dark tunnel to be looking down and it continues to be. But I think the reality is, after 72 hours of Lost, we have the idea of communicating to the audience that it's not just the Shannons and Boones and Paulos and Ekos and Ana Lucias who are vulnerable. Everybody is vulnerable. Not everybody's going to make it to the end of this journey. I think that was an important story point to make.

Are you expecting a fan backlash over this?
I hope so. I mean that honestly. I think that if people are like "we're glad you did it," that means we didn't do a good job of emotionally bonding the audience to Charlie and making them feel like his sacrifice is really tragic and heartbreaking. But Dom's work has been phenomenal, and in the last two episodes, he raised the bar even higher. And that's not just a producer trying to be generous to an actor who has now left the show. I think the proof is in the proverbial pudding. I really hope that all summer long, I am derided by people for doing this, because it'll mean that it meant something.
You heard what the man said, so comment away below. And also tell me how you think it's possible we're going to wait till February to see what happens next! Who wants to hibernate?

 

[Fana]

I bet they will now spend the entire season 4 trying to get back to the Island, with flashbacks from their last time on the Island, possibly with a few episodes covering those chosing to stay behind (Locke is a given, not so sure Rose gets to stay behind, i mean it would be good for the scriptwriters if they had the urgency of her terminal cancer driving Bernard to get them back etc) and their struggles with Dharma or whoever it is that will take over on the island.

Last episode of season 4 will probably see them (Jack and a handful of others) arrive to the Island again in some dramatic fashion. Then season 5 will be a repeat of season 2-3 with lots and lots of filler episodes. In season 6 we may finally get some story development.

The guy in the coffin is most likely Ben - he was taken off the Island with the others and then his spinal cancer returned and killed him. Jack said "neither" to "relative or friend?" which would fit pretty well, and Jack is probably feeling guilty about not listening to Ben and using the satelite phone. Jack is also probably the only one that would have any interest in his funeral (anyone else from the Island would have had some people coming). I doubt its Sawyer since Kate says she has to get home otherwise "he will be wondering where i am" etc. Thats got to be Sawyer she talks about. And i dont think they would kill off Sawyer. Cant be Charlie since he would have been dead quite a while by then.

 

[adams901]

on another board I visit there is a suggestion they have gone back to an alternate reality.

1) Jack mentions his father is upstairs

2) The women who parachuted in said the plane was found with them all inside it dead

3) The person Kate is refering to could be her stepdad (the one she killed).

I guess if it is an alternate reality it could explain why Jack is so screwed up, having been through the whole losing his father thing only to go back and find he is alive.

 

[Fana]

Alternate reality would feel cheap somehow :/

 

[Tricose]

its actually a "big brother" style show yet they dont realise ppl dieing ar eppl been voted of the show

 

[Whipped]

Our theory is that the next season and a half will still be on the island, with flash forwards showing what happens after they escape/get rescued. Then the show will pick up from that point and the last 1 1/2 season will involve Jack and other people trying to get back to the island. Possibly succeeding at the very end of the show in 2010.

 

[Tom]

Trailer, bitches.

YouTube - Lost - Season 4 Promo
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[ECA]

Here's a tip.

They are still lost.

 

[dave]

"You want to know why we're here?"

"I'll tell you why we're here!"

I bet he doesn't....

 

[Rubric]

Here's a tip.

They are still lost.

actually were not sure thats the case.

 

[Fana]

Hmm, i honestly feel no anticipation for the "The Return". Im sure ill still watch it when it starts airing but Lost feels so watered down and milked by now that its definetly "lost" most of its appeal. Out of a 42-43 min episode 5 min is a recap of earlier episodes, 15 min are flashbacks, 20 min is mostly meaningless footdraging/filler and 2-3 min is actual plot development. I may try to hold off watching the season until its all aired and then watch it all over a week.

 

[Zarjazz]

Here is a nice recap leading up to the new season -

Lost Vid

 

[Opt1]

I didn't mind that they killed him, I was just bothered by the fact that it was the lamest and most contrived death ever.

I wish the interviewer had asked them why Charlie didn't think to run out of the room before he closed the door and instead to remain in the room as it filled slowly with water...

New season should be good, provided they don't lame-ify the plot. Curious about the voice in the shed..

 

[Rubric]

I didn't mind that they killed him, I was just bothered by the fact that it was the lamest and most contrived death ever.

I wish the interviewer had asked them why Charlie didn't think to run out of the room before he closed the door and instead to remain in the room as it filled slowly with water...

New season should be good, provided they don't lame-ify the plot. Curious about the voice in the shed..

Or swim out of the newly blown hole in the base?

 

[dysfunction]

maybe they all get on a plane and crash again...

 

[Tom]

Now showing at your local emporium....

 

[dysfunction]

And it also starts on Sky One this Sunday...

 

[Tom]

Spoiler

I officially have no idea what's going on. They were lost, now they're found, but they want to be lost again. Not the best season opener tbh, needs more crashing planes/explosions.

 

[nath]

Hurray, another shite episode. I've not enjoyed this show in ages - I'd love to stop watching but I have to find out what happens.

 

[Frizz]

Hurray, another shite episode. I've not enjoyed this show in ages - I'd love to stop watching but I have to find out what happens.

I'm glad I never bothered from the beginning then. Can't pull yourself away, eh? Try Nicotine patches!

 

[nath]

I'm glad I never bothered from the beginning then. Can't pull yourself away, eh? Try Nicotine patches!

You're so lucky. When it's all finished I'll let you know if the end was worth it (highly unlikely).

 

[Fana]

Hurray, another shite episode. I've not enjoyed this show in ages - I'd love to stop watching but I have to find out what happens.

Agree - painfully obvious they are just trying to drag it all out as much as possible.

 

[angrymoon]

*yawn*

But I'll still tune in next week unfortunately