LOL, Remember me? What ya guys think of New Frontiers

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

SB aint ever been fine since before LA nerf, ok we needed a nerf but it was way too hard, consider the fact that SB is the only assassin that cannot choose wether to use dex or str based weaps and the fact that str/con debuff can be avoided by choice from inf/NS.
and btw, slash DW infs hit alot harder than SB's can ever dream of, wich i find funny as SB is supposed to hit harder than our counterparts ^^
nuff said about SB's, i can live with it cos it's so much more funny to gank an inf with the odds against you

hahahahahahahahahah

SBs are fine - they just can't QQing because they lost godmode and never learnt how to play an assassin and not an overpowered minizerk.

No str/dex option? Well how about the advantage of only having to fit one stat in a temp, having only one stat to overcap, and having only one stat buy RAs for?

You're only being hit harder by other assassins because you're specc'd wrong. And the only odds against you are your own ineptitude.

 

[Phule_Gubben]

hahahahahahahahahah

SBs are fine - they just can't QQing because they lost godmode and never learnt how to play an assassin and not an overpowered minizerk.

No str/dex option? Well how about the advantage of only having to fit one stat in a temp, having only one stat to overcap, and having only one stat buy RAs for?

You're only being hit harder by other assassins because you're specc'd wrong. And the only odds against you are your own ineptitude.

Clueless as always. You should have tried to play one pre. nerf and after nerf. Then speak up instead of what you just said.

 

[Fana]

hahahahahahahahahah

SBs are fine - they just can't QQing because they lost godmode and never learnt how to play an assassin and not an overpowered minizerk.

No str/dex option? Well how about the advantage of only having to fit one stat in a temp, having only one stat to overcap, and having only one stat buy RAs for?

You're only being hit harder by other assassins because you're specc'd wrong. And the only odds against you are your own ineptitude.

You do know Infils get more specpoints than sb's right? So Sb's cant spec as high as infs in weapon/offhand etc. And, no, we do need to cap/overcap more than strenght trust me, as the other stats govern stuff such as hitpoints, evaderate and swingspeed Add to that our useless stats progression, with our most important stat beeing tertiary

 

[wittor]

You do know Infils get more specpoints than sb's right? So Sb's cant spec as high as infs in weapon/offhand etc. And, no, we do need to cap/overcap more than strenght trust me, as the other stats govern stuff such as hitpoints, evaderate and swingspeed Add to that our useless stats progression, with our most important stat beeing tertiary

lol there are alot of sbs who do good dmg so don't tell me they are gimped

You should have tried to play one pre. nerf and after nerf.

pre nerf was god mode xD

 

[mts]

the three assassin classes are as balanced now as they have ever been imo (and yes i played a sb pre-nerf era and after).

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regarding the topic i think NF is rather fun. im gonna miss good 'ol odins gate action tho

 

[Xandax]

Rubbish.

Some Sbs have done badly because they keep insisting on playing them like minzerkers and ignoring the assassin unique lines. try speccing some CS and envenom and they'll do a lot better.

Clueless forum troll uke:

/Dismiss and ignore.

 

[Huntingtons]

Saying all there is to do in NF is "stick and port inside a keep" is like saying all there was to do in OF was run to emain atk and camp it.

Are you really that unimaginative?

ah yes sorry. I forgot that you die to the zerg before getting to the doors 8(

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

You do know Infils get more specpoints than sb's right? So Sb's cant spec as high as infs in weapon/offhand etc. And, no, we do need to cap/overcap more than strenght trust me, as the other stats govern stuff such as hitpoints, evaderate and swingspeed Add to that our useless stats progression, with our most important stat beeing tertiary

I really didn't want to do this, but some of the shadowtrolls have checked it out and are obviously keeping it to themselves.

Go to vn rogues board and check out wyrrds latest testing. As a point of interest I followed his advice on my infil and basically he's right.

In short all your whining has been completely wrong - you've been speccing wrong and whining about the wrong things.

Go, read and admit you're wrong.

 

[Runolas]

Go to vn rogues board and check out wyrrds latest testing. As a point of interest I followed his advice on my infil and basically he's right.

In short all your whining has been completely wrong - you've been speccing wrong and whining about the wrong things.

The whine in the past was much more than dmgoutput like wyrd's spec tells you, unless your totally clueless like you seem to be. Then again there are those that like to jump the first bandwagon for an easy answer.

How you spec have very little to do with old stun on DF, old Vanish or AP etc. It has also very little to do with how debuff works on SB vs thrust specced INF/NS. I guess this is to difficult for you to understand. Most high RR Inf/NS have small difficulties to tell you that at least there have been issues with SB preformance after the LA nerf.

With NF I can now use Vanish in cases I earlier used Purge and I have better timer on Purge and that helps a lot. To win against an equall or higher RR Inf/NS 1 vs 1 I need to blow Purge unless I get a good advantage early in the fight. I'm still amased with the dmgoutput from some of the higher RR Inf like Wittor, Sanan, Elajt etc. It's not uncommon that these guys hit for 340 mainhand (when I come to think of it I think Wittor hit me once pre NF for 410 - probably with Battler debuff). Anyhow I still feel like I said earlier that SB/NS/Inf are as balanced as they have ever been b4 - ofc imho.

As for speccing, with the respec given in NF I have gone from 44Axe to 35Axe and I can't seem to notice any huge difference in dmgoutput, but I'm now using the best debuff and that helps ofc.

 

[RaiztliN]

summary:

good - the game is far more daoc'ish then the game was pre NF. almost(?) all classes are now viable to rvr with. less class balance whine (due to less grp vs grp, or class vs class fights).

bad - realm population differance. stealthers. mcl/rp nerf. the new 'zonewalls'.

:worthy: Agreed, 100%

 

[Twinky]

Sux Donkey balls!!!

Only fun 4 1 fg stealth, rangers,casters, thanes and other n00b players that couldn't get a spot in a fg before nf...

if u run fg at night, ur lucky to meet another fg or 2 fg..

and 4 soloers its just to buy a field ballista and aim fire aim fire zZzzzzzz.......

2k a day....

omg.. used to have 300k

 

[Skilgannon]

Sux Donkey balls!!!

Only fun 4 1 fg stealth, rangers,casters, thanes and other n00b players that couldn't get a spot in a fg before nf...

if u run fg at night, ur lucky to meet another fg or 2 fg..

and 4 soloers its just to buy a field ballista and aim fire aim fire zZzzzzzz.......

2k a day....

omg.. used to have 300k

Bet your one of the spotty kids that checks /stats every 5 mins to see how uber you aren't.

Best thing for me about NF is that it pisses off the leet twats.

 

[Farek]

great for fg rvr, just that most other gank grps seems to have forgotten how to avoid zergs :[[[[

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

The whine in the past was much more than dmgoutput like wyrd's spec tells you, unless your totally clueless like you seem to be. Then again there are those that like to jump the first bandwagon for an easy answer.

How you spec have very little to do with old stun on DF, old Vanish or AP etc. It has also very little to do with how debuff works on SB vs thrust specced INF/NS. I guess this is to difficult for you to understand. Most high RR Inf/NS have small difficulties to tell you that at least there have been issues with SB preformance after the LA nerf.

With NF I can now use Vanish in cases I earlier used Purge and I have better timer on Purge and that helps a lot. To win against an equall or higher RR Inf/NS 1 vs 1 I need to blow Purge unless I get a good advantage early in the fight. I'm still amased with the dmgoutput from some of the higher RR Inf like Wittor, Sanan, Elajt etc. It's not uncommon that these guys hit for 340 mainhand (when I come to think of it I think Wittor hit me once pre NF for 410 - probably with Battler debuff). Anyhow I still feel like I said earlier that SB/NS/Inf are as balanced as they have ever been b4 - ofc imho.

As for speccing, with the respec given in NF I have gone from 44Axe to 35Axe and I can't seem to notice any huge difference in dmgoutput, but I'm now using the best debuff and that helps ofc.

I didn't drop the whole way - went to 39 thrust/44cs. The loss of DF isn't an issue - get to use it so infrequently, and then its usually purged. I now (at rr4) land around 250 for a garrotte with heaters against SB/NS (thats without the debuff ). Just wait for RR5. I've noticed no difference in hit/miss/evade rates and my DW has gone up 20 points.

So the shadowblade whinging mainly due to them speccing wrong imho. My damage comes from the assassin lines - CS and envenom.

 

[Runolas]

I didn't drop the whole way - went to 39 thrust/44cs. The loss of DF isn't an issue - get to use it so infrequently, and then its usually purged. I now (at rr4) land around 250 for a garrotte with heaters against SB/NS (thats without the debuff ). Just wait for RR5. I've noticed no difference in hit/miss/evade rates and my DW has gone up 20 points.

So the shadowblade whinging mainly due to them speccing wrong imho. My damage comes from the assassin lines - CS and envenom.

This is ofc off topic, but I still think Inf's should spec 50Thrust - any stun that easy to land is too good to give up on. I've yet to see a RR4 INF that popps 250 mainhand without Crit on a SB with +50AF and max Heat.

I also find it strange that you can comment on how things have been for a SB after LA nerf when your Inf is only RR4. Those SB that did not like the situation was those that played them on a regulare basis - I would not call the likes of Salamurhaja a n00b, when he infact is of the best SB I've ever seen. I also think he specced 37Axe if I'm not totally mistaken.

Anyway my view on things is that if its sound like a duck, walks like a duck it most likely is a duck.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

This is ofc off topic, but I still think Inf's should spec 50Thrust - any stun that easy to land is too good to give up on. I've yet to see a RR4 INF that popps 250 mainhand without Crit on a SB with +50AF and max Heat.

I also find it strange that you can comment on how things have been for a SB after LA nerf when your Inf is only RR4. Those SB that did not like the situation was those that played them on a regulare basis - I would not call the likes of Salamurhaja a n00b, when he infact is of the best SB I've ever seen. I also think he specced 37Axe if I'm not totally mistaken.

Anyway my view on things is that if its sound like a duck, walks like a duck it most likely is a duck.

Well I took many months off and only came back recently - and only re-entered rvr the day after 1.70. I went to RR4 pre toa, mostly solo and unbuffed.

250 with heat on SBs/infils is roughly what i'm seeing - sometimes a little lower. And what is it with hunters and resists? Do they not like cold/heat resists? I don't think I've garroted one for less than 200.

tbh I don't miss the stun at all. I haven't had one fight since 1.70 where it would have mattered. I'm happy with my new spec - my damage is higher, mw dw is higher and I have the best poisons. And now if SBs use the new information they've been given they too will be better of.

Just don't tell the NS....

 

[Phule_Gubben]

You shouldn't belive stuff they write on VN boards. They play a totally different game me thinks, but after all it's mostly yanks so.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Aye - if you really want to f**k something up you leave it to the yanks.

But wyrrds calculations and hypothesis appear to be correct -certainly upped my offense level. And theres nothing I like better than making a mid whine.

 

[Twinky]

Bet your one of the spotty kids that checks /stats every 5 mins to see how uber you aren't.

Best thing for me about NF is that it pisses off the leet twats.

Yo.. stfu and go defiance home page if u wanna have a look at me.. think ur best choice is tojust keep ur mouth shut!!!

And btw, why the hell u attack me as a person, when i say my opinion about a game?!? r u retarded or smth ?

Better say wtf u mean, then attack me as a person dude.. And PS! Bannanas dont make u smart donkey!