Lol Ftw

[othmaar]

That cannot be horner, cause I can't see any DI bot around... maybe the DI bot took the picture!?

hihi who else?

 

[Raven]

Yeh lets all copy the french

damn...cant rep banned users :/

 

[Raven]

That sounds nice in theory and is truely heroic, but at some point it's better to capitulate or retreat and check other options and reattack later again.

re-attack from where exactly? they most of their country away in a matter of weeks

anyway, not sure what WW2 history has to do with rvr anyway.


(dis-claimer. ofc the French resistance played a large part in WW2, shame their former leaders and general population were such surrender monkeys) and just like WW1 America's intervention only shortened the war, (along with the Russians) we had pretty much got it won air/sea superiority. the germans couldn't get anywhere near us with our radar, we would have ground them down eventually. Probably why so much bitterness comes towards us, we are an island nation and very hard to invade (throughout history) and we have either kicked the arse of or saved just about every European country (including spain/portugal etc)

Its because we are such caring neighbours!


Regardless, isnt it just about time people put old jealousies and hate away, we are a united world mates!

 

[Haldar]

Those dead soldiers and the german ones are something not worth mentioning then?

Doh.
I didnt say that. Dont put words in my mouth.

I don't know where the self-congratulary shit comes from though, it's not like the UK was able to prevent all this and UK and France declared war to Germany 2 days after Hitler's attack on Poland and cooperated.

I'm from Russia. And tbh, I hardly care about UK.

But i can say that during 1936-1938 UK and French had a _plenty_ of times to crush Germany. It didnt happen u know.

You can figure out by yourself what would have happened to the UK if the USA and the Soviet Union didn't step in later.

USA stepped in by selling war goods to Ally countries, not by fighting on their behalf. Kicking Japanese's butts in Pacific is a small thing compared to USSR (and Europe in general) war theatre. And by 1944 when 2nd front opened - it was decided already, Hitler was thrown away from USSR.

germany having been defeated in the air by the Royal Air Force during the battle of Britain circa 1940

Wrong.

German air force had a strict order - do NOT bomb Royal Navy in harbors. German fleet was rather small - and it is very logical to sink enemy fleet, aint it? It has not been done.

During May 1940 Germans crushed opposing UK-French armies, cornered UK forces at Dunkerk(sp?). They could've eradicate them there - it didnt happen. They allowed UK soliders ("Dynamo") to evacuate to the island, even taking some machinery with them.

After that time - UK is almost defenseless and demoralized. Militia is being created and hastility trained with obsolete weapons. Here's the time to strike onto England[throw Goering's forces to defense, carefully navigate straights for mines, allowing transports to pass by..] - but it didnt happen.

Another note - Germans didnt make a network of airports at the north of France to allow them use fighters to escort bombers to full extent. Why?

What bombers destroy? Poor parts of London. A Cathedral in Kenterbery(sp?) Why not port in Liverpool, which is a gate for incoming flow of food and oil (from USA)? No paralyzed railroads and bridges. No destroyed plants which produce fighter engines and other parts. Why?

Coventry was destroyed, true. But afaik - it was a rather small city, which main production was cloth...

And a last thing. During that 'Battle for England' germans had around 2200 planes fighting. A year later, upon invasion to USSR - almost 5000. See the difference?

I think that Hitler tried to spare English, based on hise race and nation theories. He thought they are 'wayward Germans' or so - and he hoped that Churchill cabinet would fall, and England will be removed from war - or better yet, joined Axis.

It didnt happen, though.

Some critics say that the US military services knew that the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor, so did the president.

They didnt _know_ about the attack.

They presumed it and predicted. And - remover all pacific fleet from Pearl Harbor, leaving only rather old battleship Arizona behind, so Japanese didnt have a strong result for all those efforts.

 

[Haldar]

we are a united world mates!

yeah....

 

[Raven]

The reason Germany didn't push us forward properly when France fell was because they had hoped we would join them (in fact we came very close to doing just that) The battle of Briton had nothing to do with the number of planes on each side it had everything to do with our newly invented radar. The German planes couldn't get near us without us seeing them and intercepting them. As for the navy we had the best navy in the world at the time and had relatively clear supply routes. I am sure the people of Liverpool and Manchester would love to know how they didn't in fact get bombed, i am pretty sure they know they did.

(taken from wikipedia)

Toward the end of the Battle of Britain, a German bomber crew mistakenly bombed London. The RAF responded by bombing Berlin on the night of 25/26 August. This was politically embarrassing for Goering as he had boasted of the Luftwaffe ability to protect major German cities. Not realizing how close the Luftwaffe was to defeating Fighter Command, Goering switched from attacking airfields and strictly military targets to bombing cities, in particular London, which was attacked for the first time on September 7. Many other British cities were hit, including Birmingham, Liverpool, Bristol, Belfast, Cardiff, and Coventry. The given aim was strategic—to destroy ports and industrial installations—but there is no room to doubt destroying the will of ordinary people to fight was a major factor, perhaps the major factor.

Yes we were "lucky" that Germany had such bad leaders and stopped bombing airfields and such but that is all part of war.

Regardless everyone in the UK was directly effected by the war and for a long time we stood alone, later our allies joined us (thats what allies do) Russia helped the Germans by invading Poland in 1939 under the Molotov-Rippentrop Pact (sp?) (a non aggression pact) they had previously tried to get the UK and French to help

 

[Fuaip]

(taken from wikipedia)

Never trust wikipedia!!

 

[Haldar]

The German planes couldn't get near us without us seeing them and intercepting them.

Incercepting != winning air battle.

I am sure the people of Liverpool and Manchester would love to know how they didn't in fact get bombed, i am pretty sure they know they did.

They were not reduced to dust like Coventry - and Dresden later during war.

Germans didnt want to alienate English completely - but they could've done just that, by trashing UK.

Anyway, it is history now.

 

[dub]

re-attack from where exactly? they most of their country away in a matter of weeks

anyway, not sure what WW2 history has to do with rvr anyway.


(dis-claimer. ofc the French resistance played a large part in WW2, shame their former leaders and general population were such surrender monkeys) and just like WW1 America's intervention only shortened the war, (along with the Russians) we had pretty much got it won air/sea superiority. the germans couldn't get anywhere near us with our radar, we would have ground them down eventually. Probably why so much bitterness comes towards us, we are an island nation and very hard to invade (throughout history) and we have either kicked the arse of or saved just about every European country (including spain/portugal etc)

Its because we are such caring neighbours!


Regardless, isnt it just about time people put old jealousies and hate away, we are a united world mates!

hard to invade is not how we recall it , more like rp-farm tbh , no bitterness here thou , no empires last forever

 

[Zahr]

Discussing history ehhh...non of u where even born during WW2 .

Try think about who writes history, is it the loosres or the winners...? And who r the really winners of a war...?

And what does it really matters to u atm, does it change ur life at is it..?

What do u really know, eccept from writings of others...???

nvm I am am that fanguir/horner etc so what, I play game for fun and ftw

 

[Cromcruaich]

My only friend is pip and whats wrong with that...???
ASSHOLES

I miss pip, most of the colourful characters have gone Post count here is through the floor, ive had to resort to actually being productive at work during the day.

 

[Chance]

Rep for everyone for giveing answers to my upcomming history essay!

 

[Gear]

Discussing history ehhh...non of u where even born during WW2 .

Try think about who writes history, is it the loosres or the winners...? And who r the really winners of a war...?

And what does it really matters to u atm, does it change ur life at is it..?

What do u really know, eccept from writings of others...???

nvm I am am that fanguir/horner etc so what, I play game for fun and ftw

Hurray to postmodernism

 

[Tuthmes]

Discussing history ehhh...non of u where even born during WW2 .

Mebbe not, but my grandparents sure as hell remembered it and talked about it. Quite sure some of the lessons they learned where givin on to me aswell.

Try think about who writes history, is it the loosres or the winners...? And who r the really winners of a war...?

Think Russia could be called as one of the winners of WW2, yet Stalin really didnt have that good of a reputation. Could go way deeper in it and accuse America/Allies of a couple of thing's, but lets not do that here.

And what does it really matters to u atm, does it change ur life at is it..?

If it doesn't, you should think about it for a second. Not even scratching the fact that you enjoy the freedom you have atm, but would you jump of a floating cube to storm some beach with machine guns facing you? Just to liberate some country you hardly know about? It's this mental attituded you have that's what's wrong with society today.

What do u really know, eccept from writings of others...???

Lemme quote myself from above here

Mebbe not, but my grandparents sure as hell remembered it and talked about it.

So its a bit more then just writing of others, thank you.

nvm I am am that fanguir/horner etc so what, I play game for fun and ftw

Shouldn't really compair a game with real life situations and be serious about it.

 

[othmaar]

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Tut, you have never worn a uniform, studied history or warfare. It is that obvious, this is way out of your league. You take some good points and mix them with your mud-for-brain and express them here for the sole reason to get attention, making no sense at all and in the process causes readers to yawn and think *boring thread, lets look at another*

Please leave this fine flame alone and go tug a girls hair and giggle obscenely instead.

 

[Tuthmes]

Tut, you have never worn a uniform, studied history or warfare. It is that obvious, this is way out of your league. You take some good points and mix them with your mud-for-brain and express them here for the sole reason to get attention, making no sense at all and in the process causes readers to yawn and think *boring thread, lets look at another*

Please leave this fine flame alone and go tug a girls hair and giggle obscenely instead.

The start is bad, but the rest of your flamage is quite good actually. Ill give you a 6/10 for the effort.

 

[othmaar]

The start is bad, but the rest of your flamage is quite good actually. Ill give you a 6/10 for the effort.

Cheerleader uniform does not count, and whether you studied something or not is of no consequence if you never learned anything when you did.

 

[Tuthmes]

Cheerleader uniform does not count, and whether you studied something or not is of no consequence if you never learned anything when you did.

Much better. Now all you need some originality!

 

[othmaar]

Much better. Now all you need some originality!

I am afraid that trying to knock some sense into imbeciles like you lost it's originality too long ago, you will have to actually realize that you are clueless. That would satisfy any requirement of originality.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Hmpf :/.

 

[Tuthmes]

I am afraid that trying to knock some sense into imbeciles like you lost it's originality too long ago, you will have to actually realize that you are clueless. That would satisfy any requirement of originality.

Ic. So now you refer to calling people names instead, trying to make up for lost originality. Good work.
I am clueless (!) about who you are though, but then again nor do i really care. Keep up the good work, you might actually reach your goal in life and for once be original on the FH forums and dad will be proud of you, i'm sure.

 

[Tuthmes]

Hmpf :/.

Ahh well, i know its offtopic. But the flame quality is of quite a good standard.

 

[aika]

I wanna see Tut in cheerleader uniform

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

I wanna see Tut in cheerleader uniform

I want to see those Danish girls from the gymnasium strip party dancing next to him though. Best would be one for each hour of this 13 hours long ML rush ;-).

 

[aika]

I want to see those Danish girls from the gymnasium strip party dancing next to him though. Best would be one for each hour of this 13 hours long ML rush ;-).

13 hours only now I realised it was that long :O

 

[Himse]

Manisch, so after all that.. basically the French Surrendered to the Germans, my original point about the picture.

Thats all, stop being a muppet.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Manisch, so after all that.. basically the French Surrendered to the Germans, my original point about the picture.

Thats all, stop being a muppet.

Yeah, they surrendered all, including Charles de Gaulle.

Another spoiled kid that skipped the elementary school. Must be a magnet somewhere.