LOE part company with SoTL

[mirieth]

:sleeping:

It's just a game, honest.

 

[the_smurflord]

Originally posted by Lochlyessa
These are public forums ya know.. and no, while you're still posting bullshit I'll still reply, cos I don't like the way you slander my guild tbh.

Slander is verbal. Libel is written.

 

[old.SadonTheGrey]

Go away Smurf

 

[Lochlyessa]

Originally posted by the_smurflord
Slander is verbal. Libel is written.

Doesn't sound right in text :/

 

[Jenkz]

SOME people in SotL play the game for themselves, and no one else... SOME people in every other guild in albion are exactly like this too...

This does not mean the WHOLE of SotL are bastards. It means a few are.

I said Vaya is on his period light heartedly, if you cant see that then more fool you. He's always the one to kickup stuff on /as and usualy its over something extremely trivial.

The point behind my post was to explain our side of the story from my point of view - the fact that the alliance was far from one sided for the points i outlined in my previous post.

LoE left Unity fed up of being bossed about by a "chickenshit alliance", they now leave SotL fed up of not being able to boss certain longterm SotL members into doing things they dont want to.

So fcking what if 1fg of SotL never want to leave emain sometimes. So fcking what if 1fg SotL dont want to zerg with you in emain. So fcking what if 1fg of SotL think the endgame is about the RP tables and ACTUALLY ENJOY playing all day in Emain.

There are a LOT MORE people in SotL than that 1fg of people.... And you'll find they, AND EVEN the 1fg you so hate, helped with the alliance a lot more than you make out.

Im not turning it all around on LoE, Im saying some (a small minority) of SotL will do what they want and wont be told otherwise. The people PMing you saying this about SotL will be making this point as in some cases it is very frustrating and extremely annoying, even with guild issues. But dedicated players who know how to play the game and who do care for the Guild, the Alliance, and Albion are important no matter their attitude.

To my knowledge we were not your "RvR Alliance Partner". No major Alliance in Albion is ever formed to be that close. Alliances are formed to help out on large scale realm issues and large scale raids, to help each other when needed. Ie. Relics, Dragon, Sidi, Legion.

 

[old.Bubble]

jenkz think its probley a good idea if you just shutup and let this thread die
every post you makes just digging a deeper hole.

 

[frogster]

Originally posted by old.Bubble
jenkz think its probley a good idea if you just shutup and let this thread die
every post you makes just digging a deeper hole.

I thought his points were quite valid in his post.

P.s Hi Asysh and Maliki

 

[Jenkz]

Dig myself in a deeper hole with who? With LoE?

You think I give a damn what you think? I'm correcting (from my PoV) the nonsense Visit stated, and let other people in Albion think.

SotL are a strong guild who play the game for themselves. Their guild is their #1 priority. You joined an alliance with them when they were EVEN MORE SO like this. You joined knowing full well the opinioins of people in SotL...

I joined SotL a month after the SotL/LoE alliance was formed and know exactly how its been. There have been very little problems and frankly im disgusted at how you made out we do nothing.

Maybe look at the alliance forum and count the number of posts from LoE. 1, 2, 3... hrrm forum been up for 4 months and a handful of posts by the "one sided" alliance member.

The alliance was NOT one sided, you left because certain individuals got pissed off with SotL doing their own thing in Emain. You left because certain individuals got pissed off with not all SotL helping retake keeps even though >50% of your own guild couldnt be arsed either. These really minor issues built up over time into something you knew all along; A minority in SotL dont give a damn about helping you when they are busy doing their own thing; The rest do.

State the facts, not nonsense propoganda about SotL.

 

[old.Bubble]

Your earlyer posts have been offensive, and half truths at best.
You counter our statments by insulting us and our GM.

What i ment by Digging a hole- Your already talking so much rubbish that Any credabilty has probley gone down or dissapeared..
who knows maybe in a few years after your teens your Post a agrument to Visits post instead of a childish whine/moan for help.

 

[old.Bubble]

Oh letting this post die was a good idea through right guys?

 

[frogster]

Your statements are on par with "Comical Ali" though.

 

[old.Bubble]

/em Hugs Nee
i'm only an average board troll :/
you should see some of the VN guys

 

[Jenkz]

Half truths?

So that 1fg SotL at X keep when you started whining we didnt bother turning up wernt actually there?

So you DID ACTUALLY organise all the sidi and legion raids?

You did actually make more than 4 posts to our alliance forum?

I think not.

So again: Some of sotl are selfish fuckers when they want to be. The rest arnt. I dont see the problem, everyone knows that, they pay the game and play with their guildmates/friends.

The rubbish Bubble, is that the LoE/SotL alliance was one sided.

And yes, More fool you to think i'm actually insulting Vayasen with my jokey comment.

It was actually added to be a little bit of humour to make the post lighthearted. As he does tend to fly off the handle once a month

 

[mcirvine]

Originally posted by Jenkz
Dig myself in a deeper hole with who? With LoE?


Maybe look at the alliance forum and count the number of posts from LoE. 1, 2, 3... hrrm forum been up for 4 months and a handful of posts by the "one sided" alliance member.

The fact post of LoE on alliance forum is not so big could be due to the fact its not on the LoE but on the sotl website this forum(afaik). I bet if the alliance forum was part of our website that we wouldn't see much sotl post's there either.

 

[Jenkz]

Oh, and as for digging oneself in large holes: I'm not the one insulting one of Albions most respected alliance leaders, and one of the nicest people to play DAoC

THAT speaks empires about you Bubble.

 

[frogster]

"God will roast their stomachs in hell!!"

 

[Jenkz]

Originally posted by mcirvine
The fact post of LoE on alliance forum is not so big could be due to the fact its not on the LoE but on the sotl website this forum(afaik). I bet if the alliance forum was part of our website that we wouldn't see much sotl post's there either.

Incorrect. SotL were amongst some of the most active posters on the Unity boards when they were still in Unity.

Not to mention the Unity boards were actually hosted by a member of SotL, seperate from the main SotL site of the time.

"It wasnt hosted on our website!" is hardly a reason not to be arsed to post to an Alliance forum. You spend all day posting on Barrysworld.. This isnt on your website.

That, and the fact that Duane organised the majority of Legion/Sidi raids over the past few months speaks empires about the so called "one sided" nature of the alliance.

 

[Coren]

If you think you're an average board troll after comparing yourself to the so called trolls on the VN boards, you really should try harder Bubble.



Take a look at Vaya, he's good at it. Might aswell be regular ignorance aswell though.

 

[the_smurflord]

You are all too far from reality!

 

[old.Bubble]

Originally posted by Jenkz
Half truths?

So that 1fg SotL at X keep when you started whining we didnt bother turning up wernt actually there?

So you DID ACTUALLY organise all the sidi and legion raids?

You did actually make more than 4 posts to our alliance forum?

I think not.

So again: Some of sotl are selfish fuckers when they want to be. The rest arnt. I dont see the problem, everyone knows that, they pay the game and play with their guildmates/friends.

The rubbish Bubble, is that the LoE/SotL alliance was one sided.

And yes, More fool you to think i'm actually insulting Vayasen with my jokey comment.

It was actually added to be a little bit of humour to make the post lighthearted. As he does tend to fly off the handle once a month

No LOE didn't organise ALL the sidi,DF,dragon raids.
The LOE/SOTL alliance was great the first month or 2- we raided all the time RvRed together defended and communicated well together. Both guilds gave 50% it was a good alliance.
The REASON why we left was because the Officers in LOE felt that this was not the case anymore. Please NOTE the word Felt. You guys might have bad reason for not helping us etc, you migjht have been waylayed etc. We didn't know that, you didn't tell us. You might have had a guild event while we were opening DF for our legion raid but again we didn't know or were not told making it feel like there was no help from you guys - a problem with communication maybe?
Also During the last month or 2 sotl has lowered its activity ( Exping nerco alts and Hib Excal characters)

for the 3rd time
LET THIS THREAD DIE

 

[Spinky]

Vayasen can close the thread any time he feels like it

*poke*

 

[Coren]

Originally posted by old.Bubble
We didn't know that, you didn't tell us.

Do I need to post the screenies where we did just to get answers like 'yeah right...', 'arseholes' etc? And like Jenkz said, can you honestly say SotL didn't organise most of the raids etc? Don't ask for discussions to stop when your own arguments turn their back on you.

Also During the last month or 2 sotl has lowered its activity ( Exping nerco alts and Hib Excal characters)

Let's not compare the amount of alts/inactivity between SotL and LoE now, might result in something you might want to avoid.

LET THIS THREAD DIE

No.

Not untill you stop replying, but then we'll have the last word. Hihi.

 

[klavrynd]

as far as i'm concerned the % of nice players in sotl >>>>>>> the % of nice players in sotl , but then again, who cares a fuck about what i think?


(i know you do derric!!)

 

[Farquady]

Originally posted by klavrynd
as far as i'm concerned the % of nice players in sotl >>>>>>> the % of nice players in sotl , but then again, who cares a fuck about what i think?


(i know you do derric!!)

Is it just me or do more people not understand this?

 

[Generic Poster]

Originally posted by the_smurflord
You are all too far from reality!

Divorced. You are divorced from reality





I love a good flamefest but bitchposting is pathetic. Enough has been said already and most of that should have stayed private. There were differences so the alliance splits, sounds reasonable enough without this drama.

I can tell you what will happen if the bitchposts continue, Jenkz will recycle his past few postings and make the same points over and over until I'm bored shitless. Go down on someone Jenkz, sucking dick is about the only thing you can do with any degree of competence.

 

[Generic Poster]

Originally posted by klavrynd
as far as i'm concerned the % of nice players in sotl >>>>>>> the % of nice players in sotl , but then again, who cares a fuck about what i think?


(i know you do derric!!)

With statements like that only Derric could listen to you

 

[old.Bubble]

Originally posted by Coren
No.

Not untill you stop replying, but then we'll have the last word. Hihi.

No way in hell !

 

[old.Bubble]

Originally posted by Coren
Do I need to post the screenies where we did just to get answers like 'yeah right...', 'arseholes' etc? And like Jenkz said, can you honestly say SotL didn't organise most of the raids etc? Don't ask for discussions to stop when your own arguments turn their back on you.

I just thought it would be in the best interests for this thread to be locked.
Mainly before jenkz posts again

 

[Bofgrey]

Personally I don't mind at all that our alliance died, as over the last few months the skill of the LoE zerg became less and less. The few Sidi raid I've been on ended up with literally 75% of the LoE members logging.

I don't bear a grudge against anyone, but silly accusations kindof change that.

Everything Jenkz pointed out is 100% true, don't try to talk your ways out of it...

Now who wants a cookie?

 

[old.Bubble]

Originally posted by Bofgrey

Now who wants a cookie?

Coren providing milk?
jenkz is stating that the alliance was NOT one way---> i stated that this was true when we started the alliance. see wheres this is going