Lamers on Elite server

[[A&I]Lilly Monster]

Erm well recently theres been lots of lamers on the Barrysworld Elite server (BW5), in particual a 30-40 pinging LPB called Sexy Lucy who everytime i seen her/him/it is always fucking sniping EVERY GAME. Could we please have the sniper limit reduced to 0, so elite players who want some serious match practice can get it, without sad fucking lamers ruining it. Thanx.

P.S. Im sure im not the only 1 who feels this way.

[Edited by [A&I]Lilly Monster on 13-01-01 at 00:38]

 

[[A&I]Lilly Monster]

ROFL !!

Hmmm I just got accused by a SNIPER of being " a dirty lame nursie "

Please for the love of TFC ban snipers asap !!!!

 

[Embattle]

I don't really play TFC but it looks to me like you're moaning about some one who uses the sniper rifle and kills your arse.

 

[[A&I]Lilly Monster]

Ur right u dont know jack about TFC, so STFU idiot ok ?

 

[Embattle]

Originally posted by [A&I]Lilly Monster
Ur right u dont know jack about TFC, so STFU idiot ok ?

Thxs for proving me right boy. Put a bit more pratice in and I'm sure one day you'll be good enough to win

I don't know much about it cause I think its kind of crap

[Edited by Embattle on 13-01-01 at 06:55]

 

[old.Jimmy]

yeah

tfc is so much harder than cs to play as a team. you have to be so much better to do well, so that's prolly why, i thaught it was crap 'till i stopped playing cs for a while and played tfc a bit.. whats wrong with snipers? if they do their job, fine. shooting peopel and providing backup. but not assholes who sit in one place and shoot you if you run past they suck. they deserve a grenade right where it hurts.

 

[Guest]

Could we please have the sniper limit reduced to 0, so elite players who want some serious match practice can get it, without sad fucking lamers ruining it. Thanx.

Shouldn't this read:
Could we please stop people using the sniper as their preferred roles, so that elite players like me can avoid being fragged.

LMAO

 

[vuz]

umm, anyone who doesn't play tfc please piss off

the fact is sniper is not used in the same way as any of the other rolls, fuck knows why its in tfc at all becos the idea of team is taken out when u get snipers

Snipers go and find themselves a little hole and snipe, that in no way does what tfc is about - capping the flag and so attacking or defending, and the sniper just annoys other players not because it is a good class, but becos it is soo easy that any llama can pick it up and sit in the most annoying places pissing you off and preventing you from playing tfc

the fact that they are fragging u is valid, but face the fact, 4 snipers would kill everyone and piss everyone off, but u can walk straight past them half the time and they can't do anything .... that aint defending, thats a solo "get my own score into the positive" mission, and it sucks

The other class which pisses off good players cos any llama can do it and while it annoys people it doesn't actually defend the flag or attack or anything is the newbie hwguy..

anywayz, the elite servers are presumably for the best players, taking away snipers will dramatically decrease the number of newbies while increasing the team play element and increasing the enjoyability for others...

so simple, snipers limited to 0, [rcon cr_snipers -1] and hw guys limited to 1 [rcon cr_hwguy 1]

sorted
h0es

 

[Guest]

Well I do play TFC, and have done for a long time.

A snipers role is to make sure the enemy keeps their head down, allowing his/her team members to get into position (or whatever). Without the sniper, you'd have spamming Demos running riot.

I'm not an 'elite' player, but I do have a question. If these players are so good (I presume that's what the term elite means here), then how can a newbie HWGuy/Sniper completely screw up their game? Must make league games a sight to see.

 

[Embattle]

If they're so good then why don't they realise to use another sniper against the one camped?

 

[old.Andy]

What a load of bollocks if you don't mind me saying.
There's a ONE sniper limit, and if a self proclaimed elite player can't TEAM up with his fellow attackers and get past this ONE sniper, then thats not the snipers fault.

Take Rock2 for instance, a sniper on the battlements is pretty pointless, but one in the yard is doing a good job of defence, better than many soldiers.

And yes I have seen clans use a sniper on Rock2, so your petty moaning about how they ruin the game is rubbish.

The sniper is limited by his charge time, so attack as a squad instead of alone and he has no chance.
A soldier firing a few rockets at the sniper will easily get enough time for the attackers to get past.

So heres my two rules for beating snipers.
1: Stop running in straight lines, jumping crouching etc doesn't help if the sniper can predict your path.
2: Don't play TFC without working together.

Simple, now stop whining everytime a class you don't like kills you.

 

[fade-]

I agree with Andy.
As an elite sniper if I piss some1 off soooo much that they ask me to change class I do it no questions asked cus I know what its like trying to get accross the map and not being able to get a foot from ur own door.

fAde-

 

[old.Donk]

Couldn't agree more Andy.

TFC - Team - Attack as a team. One solitary attacker at a time on say Rock2 is obviously gonna be taken out by a sniper, unless he's positively shite.

As for the HWGuys, ffs, soldiers can take em out with the usual rockets and grens, and the other attacking classes like the scout and medic - well ... how f'in good is a conc'ed HWGuy.

And as for lameness, how many "dirty filthy nursies" do you see running up behind unsuspecting enemies and whipping out the med pack to infect for an easy frag before skipping and jumping off on his merry way. Takes skill that.

All classes have something that can be moaned at, although you don't get too many people whinning about the Scout - there we go ... elite servers, Scouts only

 

[[A&I]Lilly Monster]

WTF ?????

U guys dont fucking get it.

Im not talking about the odd sniper that I can deal with.
I am talking about SERIAL snipers that join games and do fucking nothing but bloody snipe. Pisses people off and isnt necessary. Also when the fuck was the last time u played a "TEAM" game of tfc on a public server. If ur lucky there are a couple of people know u can team up with. Apart from that its praccy of tactics and methods. Now if ur doing that and u have serial LPB snipers on the server u spend ur entire life running to base getting sniped, respawning, running to base, getting sniped, respawning, etc ,etc. How the fuck can u improve ur game when u cant play it huh ??

As for clans using snipers, name a fucking Premiership clan that uses snipers jack ass. O yeh Andy I can tell u rarely fucking play public games do u. Know the facts 1st m8.

 

[old.Andy]

Lilly you really need to calm down.

I play more public games than you think. Your attitude is terrible, nearly everytime you get killed its either lame, gay or cheap.

If you think you can practice attacking by doing it alone, you are mistaken.

Playing as a team on public servers is simple, wait for another attacker and leave the base together.

As for LPB snipers, low ping has virtually no effect on sniping since the netcode. So that has nothing to do with it.

If playing on public servers winds you up this much, stop doing it.

Im not talking about the odd sniper that I can deal with.
I am talking about SERIAL snipers that join games and do fucking nothing but bloody snipe.

In other words, you can deal with snipers who are shit, but anyone who is actually quite good at sniping, and kills you as a medic (how dare they!) shouldn't be allowed to play.

Oh by the way, nice use of personal attacks in your replies, maybe before you reply you should take a deep breath.
You are the one who started this thread, so you should be prepared to listen to people who possibly disagree with you.


[Edited by Andy on 13-01-01 at 15:50]

 

[[A&I]Lilly Monster]

Fine I'll calm down, but thats still shit about me complaining after every death. U say practice as a team, well thats great but we never EVER have any fucking A&I practices, cuz most of u dont give a fucking shit. Therefore I have to play on public servers with m8s like Gav to get any practice in at all. Unlike the rest of [A&I] I do actually wanna improve my game and not have every match where we are raped 200 - 0.

 

[old.Andy]

Well I'm with you 100% there Lilly, but thats part and parcel of the A&I experience. Yes we'll get thrashed on a regular basis by any clan that has practiced, but we get to spring the odd surprise on clans that underestimate how good our individual players actually are.

I actually think you're a damn good player. Your concs are pretty good, e.g. onto rock2 battlements etc, but in my opinion you show that you're annoyed too easily.
Don't let the sniper know he's pissing you off, and then sneak up on the little shit.

 

[[A&I]Lilly Monster]

Hehe thanx for the tips, but truth be told I am annoyed by the slightest thing :/

Ah well maybe i should start smoknig weed ?

 

[Embattle]

Originally posted by [A&I]Lilly Monster
Hehe thanx for the tips, but truth be told I am annoyed by the slightest thing :/

Never would of guessed

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Well well, if you think the guy moans like fuck here, you should play on the same server as him Sux is what it does, and even worse when his clan buds back his moaning backside up

 

[old.Deadeh]

Right First off let me state i agree with Lilly and Viruz
so much i actually registered to post this reply

However, IF people want to play snipers why can't you just sniper each other! If your going to snipe dont piss other class's of Sniper each other. I dont have a problem with snipers UNLESS they start shooting other class's, let people play, as for you CS players, please keep out, the snipering in TFC is much different than CS, havent u seen the guns????

so snipers play against each other and live little llamaish lives, and u can do all the inbreading you want, just dont shoot NON - SNIPERS!!!

thats all i have to say

[Edited by Deadeh on 13-01-01 at 23:32]

 

[old.[KIA]TWiSTeD]

Hmmm interesting post,
I do agree and i dont agree....I just came back from Skirmish TFC server where the enemy team had 4 Snipers, the map was well and i played medic. I gotta say this was really lame, There was a sniper on the enemy roof, one on our roof, one in the center corridor bit and one in the doorway to their base. At first id leave my base, get so far across the map then get killed.

To beat this i simply conc jumped out the door and landed in the enemy moat, then swum in through the pipe, steal the flag and on the way out take out the snipers while their backs are turned. I must give credit some of the snipers were good, and did a good job of keeping me from entering their base, but the majority of the time i got past them.
This is the same with Rock2, 2Fort and the other valve maps, there are plenty of ways to avoid getting fragged by snipers, and I must say this was good practice.

simply use use the class's skills: Spy's disguise, meds and scouts conc, demos pipe jump and soldiers rocket jump etc,
Im sure any Elite Player will be able to use these skills.

Originally posted by Andy
Take Rock2 for instance, a sniper on the battlements is pretty pointless, but one in the yard is doing a good job of defence, better than many soldiers.

I see what you mean but, if a Scouts running through the yard with your key, Whats going to be more effective, a sniper or a soldier. Remember Snipers only really get one shot.

Originally posted by SoWat
then how can a newbie HWGuy/Sniper completely screw up their game? Must make league games a sight to see.

Firstly Snipers are never used in league games, clans might play them in the last 5 mins, simply because snipers are neither Attackers or Defenders their made messing around.
And secondly HWGUYS are used in defence, everyone gets pissed off when you get 2 or 3 newbie HWGUYS attacking a base (Backtracking in the process) and spamming respawns with mirv grenades, I play for a Div1 uktfcl clan and we hardly ever use HWGUYS and we do fine (most of the time).

[Edited by [KIA]TWiSTeD on 14-01-01 at 02:06]

 

[old.Andy]

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
Well well, if you think the guy moans like fuck here, you should play on the same server as him Sux is what it does, and even worse when his clan buds back his moaning backside up

Whats with the smilies?
Either you mean it or you don't, why try and cover yourself by pretending you're only joking?
As for all Lillys clanmates backing him up, that is blatant rubbish. A&I members can think for themselves, if they agree with him they'll back him up, if they don't then we're not afraid to say so.

You've only got to look at this thread to see that!

 

[[A&I]Lilly Monster]

Hmmm yes agree with Andy. Only really moan/get pissed off bad when fucking retards like Kurt talk mad shit out their ass

 

[Guest]

Hmmm yes agree with Andy. Only really moan/get pissed off bad when fucking retards like Kurt talk mad shit out their ass

You mean, when they something you don't like? (which seems to be just about everything).

I don't know what sort of TFC player you are (but I can guess). What I do know is you come across as just another whining kid here.

 

[vuz]

ah fucking hell, to be honest most of the arguments for having snipers is utter bullshit:

Andy: NO good clans i've played in matchs against have EVER had a sniper in the yard, altho I have seen several clans who were blatantly a bunch of n00bies have done this and lost quite severely, 2 soldiers in the yard is much better than 1 soldier/1 sniper, if the clan plays with more than 2, perhaps 3, soldiers in the yard then they are using.. "odd" tactics which aren't as effective of soldiers in other positions with engis on the way to the key

SoWat: yes lilly can be a wanker in the way he comes across [ie. this post] but vvvvv rarely is at all unreasonable or "rude" on the tfc servers

[A&I]Lilly Monster: u aint helping yaself in this argument

Dead [and other people who suggest sniper vs sniper and leave rest alone]: That's completely missing the point of the fact that it in no way helps the teamplay game or other peoples fun, if they want to do this there are servers 1 to 4 for these people and server 8 is hunted only, sniper heaven

There's a ONE sniper limit, and if a self proclaimed elite player can't TEAM up with his fellow attackers and get past this ONE sniper, then thats not the snipers fault.

^^ general argument used by "lilly is talking out his arse"ists, i'm probably repeating myself but anywayz:

U R MISSING THE POINT

jeeze, sure anyone can get across a map with 8 snipers on the other team, but that doesn't mean that its ok to go sniper:
1. It invariably means that once the player gets through to the opponents base there's little defence inside and it becomes a piss take, the 75% u get past the sniper u cap every time
2. If the above isn't true it often means the other team has no offence making an utter shit game which turns into a 8 vs 8 off vs def, which then turns into spam the bridge and sniper war....
3. Snipers get one shot kills, lucky kills are very common and when ure killing a couple of soldiers or wotever suddenly being dead is a tad annoying
4. That doesn't mean that the sniper is helping, he stopped them before they got to his base, he respawns and gets to where he was in 5/10 seconds and walks past... whereas a soldier at the door wud be an opponent every time
5. The biggest point about snipers is you don't fight snipers, you are forced to avoid them most of the time, against a soldier u shoot him unless u is a scout, against a sniper u dodge their red dot

umm, repeating myself: there are 3 "elite" servers, none of them are in any way up to their "elite" name BECOS players that are of a good standard get so fucking pissed off by the snipers etc, its a common view among the GOOD players that play TFC [i can see the other argument if u have little knowledge of tfc]



ajhgta9udshgdshgadsdgfdag BW are the best servers and are just covered in newbies, meaning.... they aint the best servers
dsuahgds they shud be !!!!
ffs

 

[Guest]

Yeah, it can feel pretty harsh getting killed by a sniper when you're the only one attacking. But the problem in banning snipers is that even on the 'elite' servers the team play is often so swag that being a sniper is the only way to get any fun out of a game.

To my mind what's infinitely more annoying are the people who spend their time spamming gibberish, shooting their own team members and the infected people who wait in the respawn shouting "medic!" Problems which stem from the people that play TFC and as such can't be fixed by a change of server rules.

 

[vuz]

Yeah, it can feel pretty harsh getting killed by a sniper when you're the only one attacking. But the problem in banning snipers is that even on the 'elite' servers the team play is often so swag that being a sniper is the only way to get any fun out of a game.

often one of the reasons going sniper is the only way to have fun is becos of other snipers, on top of that the reason its only newbies is because FF is off and snipers are allowed [me shouts FFS, turn FF back on! turn the autokick on for 6 kills with a ban time of 48 hours! sorted! h0es!]

To my mind what's infinitely more annoying are the people who spend their time spamming gibberish, shooting their own team members and the infected people who wait in the respawn shouting "medic!" Problems which stem from the people that play TFC and as such can't be fixed by a change of server rules.

This is true, but 2 of those problems [spam and shooting team mates] wud be solved with my above suggestion [the one headed with FFS!] and the last problem I realise is less easy and can only be solved by admins on the servers :/

 

[Embattle]

Viruz I find some of your arguement valid but then I find other parts that seem a little odd. It seems that at one stage you say snipers are too hard and then that they're too easy.

ajhgta9udshgdshgadsdgfdag BW are the best servers and are just covered in newbies, meaning.... they aint the best servers
dsuahgds they shud be !!!!

I find this one of your most stupid comments....you were a newbie at one stage....and most probably just as stupid.

 

[vuz]

i don't recall calling snipers hard, they're piss easy to play as [+ get a decent kill count] and not so hard to get past...

+ altho its a stupid comment its valid, BW TFC servers are the best servers in terms of speed, the worst in terms of quality of play
the fact is that the idea is the newbies go on servers 1 to 4, no problems... surely?