Lame and selfish behaviour of Naveh on tonite's Caer sidi raid.

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vivacelilp

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Tonite's behaviour of naveh was a shock to me, to finally see his selfish side ...

early on in the raid he msg'ed me personally out of the blue asking me if I was after the Bane 1h thrust weap, which any scout or minstrel would love to own. Later on it seamed it did drop, and me and naveh seams to be the only 2 which seamed to want it. He later asked me what my mod was (+70ish), then telling me he's been on every Friday sidi raid, which is understandable as he does lead sometimes. He also queried me on why i was using a slash weapon, finding out i recently used my 1 line respec from 1.62 patch and respeced from slash - thrust , but as i did it so recently I was planning to use my bow the most and engage/guard people for the duration of the raid and obtained no thrust weap, (i did in end from a m8 to show i was thruster).

About 1hour or so later he then msg'ed me again out-of-the-blue but this time seamed very sturn and aggressive, and obviously was looking into the fact of me having a slasher. He said i was not aloud to lotto for the thruster or any other thrusters infact and he had spoken to someone else about it (me thinking he wasnt the raid leader at the time). Also said my mod was not +70 but infact +20, untill i told him about my other chars then finalyl shut up after checkign list even tho he said i still had onlyy +40 max, even i have never won an sidi item yet and never recieved any item from the shop as of yet.

i argued to him about this , mainly about my mod. The final straw was stroke as i called him selfish, and then he threatened to ban me from all TLW raids if i would not leave him. So I refrained myself from sayign Wiv f.... pleasure.

Later on 2 ssa's dropped so i thought to myself i'll lotto for them, even tho im slasher scout I thought wat the hell and it would be a nice presant for my minstrel, but all was lost as i got a very lucky numeber in lotto, 5 :-p

I had spoken to other people about this and most did see point on me not lottoing if i was slash , but as i did respec they realised i should have a chance. I actualyl wasnt going to lotto for the baen, untill naveh had the cheak to pm me just before asking me not to Lotto for the bane.. pllzz..

So i did but he stopped me in my tracks and tried to me slying saying i cannot lotto for a slasher AND thruster, even tho he knew i was after the bane mainly but after recieving heavily wording from him.

I do not see any rules saying someone cannot lotto for a slash and thruster, if someone has a line respec left which they intend to use or have used why can't they , but have the cheak to stop them so they can have it for THEMSELVES......

And NO i do not want TLW raids to stop, i quite like them even tho they tend to snoooze off during the early hours of the morning, but rather like to show how some people can get so selfish over an item, and do anything to obtain it. (and i know of the cheaky bastas leaders of us sidi raid given themselves +60 mod or watever , but still they dont prevent someone else from lottoing , and this is europe ! ! :-D

Thanks
 
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Lynxian

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Bah!

What can I say..... was in the same group as you mate. Quite interesting how a game can change a person all of a sudden.
Can´t say if it has happened before but some things just wasn´t right...
 
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Flesh

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Tbh I like 1 of the TLW very much, and consider him a good friend, but I have to agree, alot of the TLW behaviours are let's face it wankers. I find it funny how TLW seems to sort of "disband" and raids stop right before the shop system is implimented properly..leaving them with a fuck load of items ;E
 
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Flesh

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But in all fairness afaik there were rules saying you could not lotto for a thrust item for example..if you were not specced thrust..even if you have a respec available.
 
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Jonaldo

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Originally posted by Yussef
You may only lotto for an item your character is specced for - in other words your S/S paladin may not lotto for a twohander "for the looks" or any other reason

http://www.thelastwatch.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1373

So, would need to win an item of current spec, not a planned respec etc.
So you have to specify current spec and exact skills for every raid?

How much in shield for example would count you as shield spec to get a sidi shield? Only 42+ ?


(btw thx for hosting pix)
/me fluffles Yussef
 
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vivacelilp

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nonono this aint got fuck all to do about tlw guild or watever flesh... pls don start flamming about anythign about that ..
and i see yussef but yet again i was specced to thrust but i do fully see ur point :)
 
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Lynxian

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Check the spec?

how can you be certain of his spec?
 
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Bleam

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But he was using a slasher cus he didn't buy a thruster yet but he was thrust spec?

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vivacelilp

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thats the point i see lynx but the behaviour he acted wouldnt really suite that.
 
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Yussef

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Later on 2 ssa's dropped so i thought to myself i'll lotto for them, even tho im slasher scout I thought wat the hell and it would be a nice presant for my minstrel, but all was lost as i got a very lucky numeber in lotto, 5 :-p

Also, meant to specify who you're rolling for, im not sure what the stance is on trading items internally, can't see a problem myself to be honest.
 
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vivacelilp

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I was planning to lotto for my scout, as there was many items i want for him, but being prevented from lotting for what dropped sayign i was a slasher why leave the 2 slashers dropped goto waste when i still have great use for them, and maybe resulting in going home wiv something in my pocket for once after many many raids.
 
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Yussef

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Originally posted by Omniscieous
So you have to specify current spec and exact skills for every raid?

How much in shield for example would count you as shield spec to get a sidi shield? Only 42+ ?


(btw thx for hosting pix)
/me fluffles Yussef

Well, they specify if thrust or slash etc, if you find out they're lying, they get a ban if they don't return the item.
 
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old.Morchaoron

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Boerx, i have scrolled up and have the chat in front of me, what i find funny is when the SSA comes up you say ME, and when bane comes up you say ME again, bane is thrust, ssa is slash, you wanted to roll for both, and said the SSA would be a 'nice present for your minstrel' (here on bw), but you didnt get it, so you wanted to roll for a thrust weapon then? Oo

this sounds a little.. odd, and im not sure the tlw rules allow such a thing...
 
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Jonaldo

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Originally posted by old.Morchaoron
Boerx, i have scrolled up and have the chat in front of me, what i find funny is when the SSA comes up you say ME, and when bane comes up you say ME again, bane is thrust, ssa is slash, you wanted to roll for both, and said the SSA would be a 'nice present for your minstrel' (here on bw), but you didnt get it, so you wanted to roll for a thrust weapon then? Oo

this sounds a little.. odd, and im not sure the tlw rules allow such a thing...
maybe they are a roleplayer and specced both in slash and thrust? :p
not everyone wants to be uber ;) some just want uber glowy itamz!
 
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Yussef

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Originally posted by Flesh
Tbh I like 1 of the TLW very much, and consider him a good friend, but I have to agree, alot of the TLW behaviours are let's face it wankers. I find it funny how TLW seems to sort of "disband" and raids stop right before the shop system is implimented properly..leaving them with a fuck load of items ;E

Disbanded the guild due to not being able to setup proper RvR which members wanted, the core people who ran the sidi raids will still be doing "TLW raids and systems"

Blaen is currently at a wedding for a few days, which prevented a shop running today, I've been on holiday so don't have necessary information to implement the shop properly. Will be done next week properly (I hope).
 
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vivacelilp

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i only lotto'ed for ssa as i was told i couldnt lotto "for any thruster weapon no matter bane" and i said i only lotted after for bane after loosing ssa (ofc naveh but ssa before bane ) as he msged me not to, so he could infact keep it for himself knowing no-one else wanted it.
And nn :)
 
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Yussef

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Originally posted by old.Morchaoron
Boerx, i have scrolled up and have the chat in front of me, what i find funny is when the SSA comes up you say ME, and when bane comes up you say ME again, bane is thrust, ssa is slash, you wanted to roll for both, and said the SSA would be a 'nice present for your minstrel' (here on bw), but you didnt get it, so you wanted to roll for a thrust weapon then? Oo

this sounds a little.. odd, and im not sure the tlw rules allow such a thing...

Correct, meant to specify whom you're rolling for and to roll for that person only, if problems regarding specs occur, you should speak to raid leaders beforehand to attempt to finalise your roll details.
 
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Naveh

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How can you ensure a raidleader to trust someone when he enters and uses slash and leave using thrust, wouldn't be the first time an item fell into wrong hands, got sold and dissapeared into nowhere while people like myself were actually waiting for that item for a looong time...

At this point I have to make a descision based on the situation...

I think you can't understand the fact that I had to do that, that I had to make sure that didn't happen certainly after the other Raid Leader went LD.

The story got worse when you asked about you +mod... You named like 5-6chars, HOW THE HELL do I know they are yours... for all I know you're just making them up... Which made the whole situation even darker... And not to mention rolling for two kinds of weaponry part during the lotto...

I couldn't trust it anymore.. Understand why? I wasn't I anyway aggressive towards you, if I was in your eyes sorry for that.
I did not take advantage of anything, I used the TLW rules.

Btw. Raids will continue, without straints like this... utter waste of time.

Laters,

Nav
 
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old.Morchaoron

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Originally posted by Omniscieous
maybe they are a roleplayer and specced both in slash and thrust? :p
not everyone wants to be uber ;) some just want uber glowy itamz!

he literally said (quoted from chat): "i am thrust scout but got slash weap due to just recently respeccing :p"

nothing wrong with that i guess, but before he said this he rolled for a slash weapon, thats what i find quite odd Oo
 
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Naveh

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Ow besides, I said you couldn't roll for Bane because it's thruster... You were slash afaik...

I warned you at the lootlotto not to roll for Bane, because it would be ODD for you to roll for a slasher AND a thruster, not?

Your vague comments do not have any power here, you are just trying to get me swept of my feet, well at first, you are still welcome to Sidi raids, if your behaviour changes, but do come with the weapon your specced for so don't leave any false expectations for anyone and keep your vague 'I dont got a thruster anywhere' stories at home...

Calling me selfish....if I was so selfish I would have left with Bane/SSA and two respecstones, but I didn't I left with a Bane after 13raids and leading/aiding with a lot of them, eventually all loot got fairly lottoed, you made it harder on yourself when you started about your mod and rolled for two different kinds of weaponry, while you got adviced by me not to...


Ps. Flesh I dont keep the loot the loot goes to some TLW member asap :p Don't want to be accussed of keeping raid stuff :p
 
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Jenkz

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The mod system is all a bit confusing to me

I've attended two TLW raids on my alt - Blasting - but i have absolutely no idea if i have a mod or how i go about finding out what my mod is.

Not supprised people are getting a bit confused whos mods are what, should all be visible on a webby or downloadble spreadsheet, would fix a lot of the current problems with minimal effort.
 
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ghoul

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am i the only one who understands it this way: he got told he cant get bane no matter what for his scout, so he rolled for SSA for his minst instead, is there anything wrong in that ?


or have i missed something ? :eek:

EDIT: and imo, your a cock Naveh, HIHIHIHii
 
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case-rigantis

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my girlfriend got banned from all TLW raids for not letting Naveh who wasn`t entitled to, roll for a Legion drop :eek:

was my desicion ban me :eek: and IMO you are a cock sue me

anyway i`m just bored and spamming come on guys handbags at dawn there`s more to life than a drop or 2
 
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Shike

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Originally posted by Flesh
Tbh I like 1 of the TLW very much, and consider him a good friend, but I have to agree, alot of the TLW behaviours are let's face it wankers. I find it funny how TLW seems to sort of "disband" and raids stop right before the shop system is implimented properly..leaving them with a fuck load of items ;E

errrm, TLW's raids was one of the good things in alb imo...

I once was at a Dartmoorraid quite some time ago where some cleric named Najwa tried to steal a 1handed hammer that dropped. Dont cast stones in a glasshouse.
 
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Sharma

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Originally posted by Shike

I once was at a Dartmoorraid quite some time ago where some cleric named Najwa tried to steal a 1handed hammer that dropped. Dont cast stones in a glasshouse.


Najwa IS Flesh.
 

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