Politics Labour’s next leader

Discussion in 'The Front Room' started by Wij, Dec 13, 2019.

Who should the next leader be?

  1. Kier Starmer

    61.1%
  2. Rebecca Long-Bailey

    22.2%
  3. Emily Thornberry

    5.6%
  4. Jess Phillips

    22.2%
  5. Angela Rayner

    5.6%
  6. Clive Lewis

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Yvette Cooper

    11.1%
  8. Sadiq Khan

    11.1%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    Everythings going fine...only 40 MP's say they'll quit if she becomes leader.
     
  2. Embattle

    Embattle FH is my second home

    I see Labour are overcoming the division in the party with more division.
     
  3. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Blairites need to fuck off out of the party tbpfh.

    They failed. Blairism doesn't work any better than tory-ism.

    We need a whole new approach.
     
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  4. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    How do you define a Blairite?

    Also define ‘doesn't work’? I presume ‘working’ doesn’t include getting elected.
     
  5. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    probably might as well just sit back and wait for Boris to fuck up.
     
  6. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    They presided over worsening inequality and environmental degredation - making zero substantive progress on the critical issues that plague mankind. Their lack of progress on inequality and social justice meant that when the economic crash happened in 2008 that people were already hugely disillusioned and, with the Tories following them, has lead directly to brexit and all the shitstorm to come.

    Our political system is failing the majority massively. It's fucking broken and needs fixing - says yet another billionaire.

    What's the fucking point of getting elected if you're not going to change anything?

    Answer that: What is the fucking point?

    Edit: I've been asking that for quite a while now. It's relevant to your tump obsession - who gives a fuck if an orange criminal who ostensibly plays for the reds is in charge of the USA if the alternative blue team aren't going to make the radical structural changes required.

    Obama was just a black George Dubya. He achieved fuck all of real significance - and I include Obamacare in that. There was no point to him. Just like there's no fucking point in Labour.

    Our whole system is fucked.
     
  7. Wij

    Wij I am a FH squatter FH Subscriber

    1) Not winning elections doesn’t change anything

    2) Labour, Tories, Lib Dems, Republicans, Democrats. All the same. No difference. Might as well have the shits in power. Why even try? ... Sounds like you’ve had a good dose of voter suppression propaganda. Been reading RT?
     
  8. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    Sorry @Wij - you've failed to answer the central question. If New Labour failed, which they obviously and demonstratively did, why vote them and those sort of policies back in?

    That was the question.

    The definition of madness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Bringing New Labour back, which is what we were talking about, is pointless.
     
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  9. DaGaffer

    DaGaffer Down With That Sorta Thing

    Good grief, when are you finishing sixth form again? Don't be so childish, the best one can hope for in politics is the party that does the least harm, and Iraq war aside, nuLab were pretty much that for the whole of the last 30 years. Would a nu-nuLab fix the environment? Nope, but the Tories certainly fucking won't and they'll sell everyone to the Chinese for their organs at the same time.

    Apart from anything else, a credible opposition makes for better government, the bullshit coming out of Labour is not that.
     
  10. Scouse

    Scouse HERO! FH Subscriber

    So why devote so much time talking about fucking politics when, from your own mouth, it's a waste of time.

    I don't disagree with you - but if "better government" means the sort of failed shit that has led to the situation we see now then who gives a fuck?

    "Finishing sixth form" - don't make me laugh. If our system of politics is not capable of bringing about meaningful change then you waste your life engaging with it.


    Maybe Mr Leary was correct:
     
  11. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

    Keir Starmer.

    Yup, he'll do it, just the fucking name and Oxford credentials cries out to the Labour base.
     
  12. Job

    Job The Carl Pilkington of Freddyshouse

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