It's been 4 whole days...

[leggy]

... and no one has made a Kill Bill Vol. 2 thread.

so what did everyone think? I was personally underwhelmed and felt the splitting of the film did it no justice whatsoever. Vol. 1 could easily have been a film in it's own right. Vol. 2 felt like I had walked in half way through.

Opinions are welcome. Not that it makes any difference if they weren't.

 

[Frizz]

... and no one has made a Kill Bill Vol. 2 thread.

Seeing it tomorrow.

 

[TdC]

I visited a KB1+2 marathon a couple of days ago. I was of mixed mind tbh. QT has done exactly what he set out to do, and that pleases me as he has done it to perfection. On the other hand, I find the "story" non-gripping in the extreme, the acting wooden and the violence not particularly pleasing. I value 2 over 1 as the pictures built are more grand to my taste. QT is a bitch for pulling some stunts though. I love to hate that shit

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the little kitchen chat near the end of KB2, where Bill makes sandwiches with a huge fuck-off kitchen knife, takes his time doing it, and then puts it away.....I mean ffs

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Bill's 2 minute speach. AARGH!!! to have someone talk for two minutes in filmtime is an age. it's long. LONG. filmschool said 'NEVAR DO DIS SHIT BRO'. dammit, I hate QT for pulling it off

 

[jaba]

I thought it was awful, its the only film I have ever truly been bored seeing... the first one was great, lots of fun, lots of fighting and plenty of story, the second one just kinda sits there and tries to explain/justify the first

 

[Jonny_Darko]

Liked it a lot. Not as good as Vol. 1 and it certainly didn't stand alone as well but still captivating.

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I thought the buried alive thing was really hard to watch.

Made absolutely no sense for Elle to kill Budd. I was thinking "shouldn't you be more on edge mate?" when she was in his trailer but then I thought no, not really. Elle would be terrified shitless of Bill - Bill loved his little bro dearly and would make her pay if he ever found out. It just didn't click - the story suggested she's easily rich enough to afford the sword. Plus it meant we didn't get to see Beatrix kill him which I was kinda looking forward to.

I didn't get the Pai Mai / Monk story either. I could've swore he said that story happened "in 1103" but then the guy's still alive so maybe not

 

[TdC]

for JD

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Pai Mai is supposed to be a martial arts wizard isn't he? Perhaps he's lived for a thousand years by virtue of meditation, prayer and a diet based on fish heads and pine nuts. Tbh I find it a shame that he didn't shoot mind bullits :/ Bill telling the story gets dragged in to explain the cutscene of Beatrix in training so that she can eventually escape from the coffin. Don't think about it too much mate, imo QT does this so deliberately to exactly become an american "chinese martial arts B movie". Still a shame there weren't any fireballs tho

 

[Whipped]

Not a bad closing part, but :

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I just felt the ending was a little to quick. Was expecting a drawn out battle, but no, the stupidly named "Five point exploding heart technique" does him in
Also, the bit where she visits the guy to find out where bill is seemed pretty pointless. They could have at least had her fuck him over a bit to get the info out.

 

[SilverHood]

There was a lack of good fights

Otherwise, it was pretty good.

 

[Moving Target]

Preferred the first, this one dragged in parts, and some bits seemed a bit pointless....although there are some good bits worth seeing it for.

 

[Mazling]

Well sod you all. I liked it.

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Oh, and it's "Five-Point-Palm Exploding Heart Technique."

I felt disgust at Budd, and totally understood when a fine (honourable? maybe.) warrior came along and ended him. I felt my heart flutter seeing Beatrix in the coffin (like for Buffy. mmm, Buffy ...) and a mix of reverence and intense dislike for Pai Mei. David Carradine just dripped (or sweated, if you prefer) cool moodiness. I felt for Beatrix every second of the movie. Especially the bits with her kid.

QT set out to put every single martial arts cliche in the book, into these movies. He succeeded in both doing it with flair, class, and a hefty nod (one which one can respect, not just laugh with) to the camera. Don't say "I liked the crazy fight scenes," and add "But I just couldn't take it all seriously." You can only take the seperate chunks and ideas as either serious or not-serious: not both at the same time. Both are there, and both are done well and to be appreciated. This is mutant offshoot of Matrix-Syndrome; most didn't see what the director is trying to make you feel, and trying to make you watch ... and thus weren't able to wrap their brains around the thing properly. It's a bit Zen, but take the seperate things on their own, and thus understand it as a whole.

Go watch it again. :touch:

 

[Jonny_Darko]

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I felt my heart flutter seeing Beatrix in the coffin (like for Buffy. mmm, Buffy ...)

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See, this is weird, because there were two moments when I thought of Buffy in the film. Obviously the punching through the coffin and digging out of her own grave thing was done pretty much exactly the same in Buffy. The other one is really obscure - in the Buffy epsiode Restless (the dream episode), there is a section when she's walking through the desert, the camera keeps going to her feet while she's wearing brown leather sandals. In Kill Bill 2 (outside the chapel I think) exactly the same thing happens. I'm not just saying, oh look, it's filming her feet, and in Buffy we saw her feet. I'm saying that these shots are EXACTLY the same. The same camera positioning, the feet moving at the same speed,the same sandy, dusty background, hell, the same sandals. If you were to view these side-by-side you wouldn't be able to tell the difference apart from I think the bit in Kill Bill was black and white.

I think it's probably that Buffy was paying homage to the same thing that Kill Bill was with this (and I wouldn't know what), but it's just something I noticed.

On another note, after years of meaning to do it, this film has finally made me realise just how much I want to learn Kung Fu. I'm moving soon but as soon as that's out of the way I need to find my own Pai Mai. I just wish training montages were real - that after listening to inspirational power chords for a few minutes I would become a master.

 

[tris-]

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i think there was too much talking compared to Vol1 which is why i probably got bored shitless and fell asleep, just waking up in time for the exploding head trick and much laughter at my bobbing head

the exploding heart thingy reminds me of Derren Brown and something hed probably try on his program

 

[Sharma]

I bloody loved it.

That is all.

 

[Uriel]

Not a bad closing part, but :

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I just felt the ending was a little to quick. Was expecting a drawn out battle, but no, the stupidly named "Five point exploding heart technique" does him in
Also, the bit where she visits the guy to find out where bill is seemed pretty pointless. They could have at least had her fuck him over a bit to get the info out.

I really liked it.

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Instead of ending with the kind of legendary body count I'd expected, each boss falling in increasingly brutal one-on-ones following the bloody dispatch of some nameless minions, it turned out that all those left to fight were already broken in their own way, just waiting to be killed. It's probably wise to avoid the word 'subversion' but I quite enjoyed the ending upon reflection, despite initially thinking that it was pretty anti-climatic. Also, the guy she meets to find out about Bill apparently crops up in From Dusk till Dawn playing the same character. I assume it was some kind of reference since I think QT has said KB & DTD take place in the same 'universe'.

 

[Frizz]

Yes, i most definately agree with Uriel.

 

[Deacan]

Am off to see it on saturday.

 

[Taen]

No.1 was way better.

 

[nath]

2 bored me shitless. All of it was dull, bar the Pai Mai segment.