Israel/Palestine (Conflict to more Conflicts)

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Deebs said:
Just been watching the news and the images of starving children in Gaza, kind of reminds me of Nazis persecuting the Jews but now the Jews are the Nazis.
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To be fair, there are plenty of Jewish folk against the genocide. The state of Israel is a terrorist state, and its leadership should suffer the same fate as the Nazis, fair trial, and punishment if found guilty.
 
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Raven said:
To be fair, there are plenty of Jewish folk against the genocide. The state of Israel is a terrorist state, and its leadership should suffer the same fate as the Nazis, fair trial, and punishment if found guilty.
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This is 100% true - however there are vastly more for it. Which is why Israel as a state that can be so blatant.
 
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I remember when Russia started moving Ukrainian kids into Russia and the world was like omg genocide and I was surprised to learn that it actually is.

Literally starving to death people getting shot at whilst collecting food and water? Nah.

I'm sure Israel will drop a couple of bombs in another middle Eastern country in the coming days...
 
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Scouse said:
Been doing it for ages.


Any questioning Israel makes you as bad as Jimmy Savile.
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The way I see it is that Israel has done a full circle, they were the persecuted during WWII now they are taking the role of the Nazis.
 
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Bang goes any possible remaining hope of the lie that was the "two state solution":

www.bbc.co.uk

Israeli minister announces settlement plans 'to thwart Palestinian state'

Far-right Israeli minister Bezalel Smotrich made the remarks as he announced approval for 3,401 new homes in the controversial E1 area project in the occupied West Bank.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

This is Zionism at its best – building, settling and strengthening our sovereignty in the Land of Israel.
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Or: "This is apartheid at it's most aggressive, killing non-jews, building on the land we've stolen from them, cutting them off from a shared holy site, destroying their dreams of a return to dignity and self-rule"

And our taxes fund this, whilst our confessed-Zionist Prime Minister Kier Starmer puts hundreds of mostly elderly British people, from all walks of life, including doctors, barristers, magistrates, in prison for peacefully objecting.
 
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Scouse said:
Bang goes any possible remaining hope of the lie that was the "two state solution":

www.bbc.co.uk

Israeli minister announces settlement plans 'to thwart Palestinian state'

Far-right Israeli minister Bezalel Smotrich made the remarks as he announced approval for 3,401 new homes in the controversial E1 area project in the occupied West Bank.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk



Or: "This is apartheid at it's most aggressive, killing non-jews, building on the land we've stolen from them, cutting them off from a shared holy site, destroying their dreams of a return to dignity and self-rule"

And our taxes fund this, whilst our confessed-Zionist Prime Minister Kier Starmer puts hundreds of mostly elderly British people, from all walks of life, including doctors, barristers, magistrates, in prison for peacefully objecting.
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Smotrich wants to far right nutter things?

Big shock.
 
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Gwadien said:
Smotrich wants to far right nutter things?
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That's a load of crap. This is the Israeli government plan. They're doing it. Far right has nothing to do with it.

And it, of course, is being done with massively popular support - not just of the people in Israel, but of zionists the world over.
 
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Scouse said:
Has been officially since we signed the Balfour declaration in 1912.
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1917.

And the depressing thing is Balfour only did it as yet another carrot to dangle to the Americans to get them into WW1, and he didn't need to do it, and given Britain didn't even govern Palestine in 1917 (it was still part of the Ottoman Empire), it was just hot air, as was Sykes-Piquot, just a bit of fantasy politics.
 
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DaGaffer said:
just a bit of fantasy politics.
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Statement of intent. When it could happen, we helped it happen. And we're still defending it even now (which we always would with a fully-signed-up Zionist as PM).


Edit: Oh, and pedant. ;)

(I mean, I checked, and I still wrote 1912)
 
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Statement of intent. When it could happen, we helped it happen. And we're still defending it even now (which we always would with a fully-signed-up Zionist as PM).


Edit: Oh, and pedant. ;)

(I mean, I checked, and I still wrote 1912)
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Yeah but the weird thing is the British Foreign Office has always been more Arabist/Islamist than Zionist. Always. The Balfour Declaration went against the run of British attitudes going all the way back to the East India Company when Muslims were routinely favoured over Hindus. And the minute Britain had the TransJordan Mandate they were worried about Jewish settlement to the point they'd outright banned any more Jewish immigration in 1939!

If Britain was like the US, I'd at least understand it, but the British establishment is completely schizophrenic about Israel and always has been.
 
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