Insta Ae mez

[old.m0000]

I think most people agree that Insta Ae Anything should be removed from the game since all it does is ruin it.

Lets see how it started IMO:

Hibs have bards,
Mids have healers,
Alb has a sorcerer.

Alb owns the CC because the Sorc has QC mez which bards or healers dont have (being that they aint cloth casters).

Mythic finx: Ooo crap hibernia and midgard got a problem here and to be quite frank yes they did at this time.

>>> Mythic adds Instant mez <<<

Now bards and healers have something to combat the sorcerer quickcast. The only problem is what does the sorc now have? - granted quickcast was fastest before and something needed to be done - but now you've got 2 realms with instant AE CC and one realm without, since insta wins against quickcast.


All boils down to one question, without giving stupid answers how can anyone justify that 2 realms have instant ae CC when the other one does not leaving them at a MASSIVE disadvantage since Mezz rules RvR?


See i did not even mention the fact that hib has 1000s of bards mid has 100s of healers and alb has 10 sorcs.

(think about it when do u ever see hibs in a group without a bard? - and when have you seen albs with a sorc? - the numbers simply do not match up).

And to anyone who would tell me stop bitching realms are meant to be different (i bet a hib or mid says that...) - yes they're meant to be different but atm they're about as balanced as a 10 tonnne weight and a feather.



So the main question again to recap:

How can anyone justify that Hibernia and Midgard have Instant AE Mez when Albion does not?

<puts hib/mid fire protective shield up>

 

[AbPoon]

We have insta's because we are better then you.

 

[old.m0000]

Originally posted by AbPoon
We have insta's because we are better then you.

nice thoughtful reply there poon



oh but wait u are a tank

 

[fenikske]

Originally posted by AbPoon
We have insta's because we are better then you.

for saying that alone you don't deserve it if you wer better you wouldn't needed it

 

[StormriderX]

I think albs need to be given insta mez too to balance things out. Would also drastically cut down the whine too

 

[old.Xanthian]

105 lvl 50 Healers
68 lvl 50 Bards
60 lvl 50 Sorcs

If you really wanna moan about mezz, howmany classes have Hibernia got that can AE Mezz and Stealth ?
Dont say the Mezz is shit, cos when used right the Minstrel mezz can give a HUGE advantage to a group.

 

[old.Wildfire]

Go back to your hole xanthian, you're only demonstrating that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

 

[AbPoon]

Never said we were better because we had instas just said we were better ^^

 

[fenikske]

Originally posted by AbPoon
Never said we were better because we had instas just said we were better ^^

lol we eat mids for breakfast mate , sorry to disapoint ya if they aren't 7 times more then us ofcoz

 

[karlophin]

Originally posted by old.Wildfire
Go back to your hole xanthian, you're only demonstrating that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

Likewise wildfire, at least his post had pretty stats in it.

Personally I agree with the original thread. But remember bards get Insta Mez once every 30 mins. Woo YEEPPEEE. Then its purged anyways and we all get insta aoe stuned by mids. We could whine all day on BW about this...

oh wait.. we do

 

[Jiggs]

Originally posted by old.Wildfire
Go back to your hole xanthian, you're only demonstrating that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

insta aoe mezz is fine

insta RANGED aoe mezz is the very unholy spawn of satan himself

if albs had insta, hell even castable aoe stunn we'd rox

 

[AbPoon]

Originally posted by fenikske

lol we eat mids for breakfast mate , sorry to disapoint ya if they aren't 7 times more then us ofcoz

7 times more then FC in Emain? i dont think our server pops that high dude.

Also if your so damm good start helping in your own frontire, your guys are getting the shit beaten out of em and i dont think they like it.

 

[karlophin]

Thats comin from a RR3L6 though poon, so you should be scared

 

[old.Wildfire]

OK then lets look at a typical situation and see just how useful a minstrel's "mezz from stealth" is.

1FG albs running south along a road
1FG hibs/mids running north along the same road towards them

- alb group driver hits quickcast and begins casting some form of AE spell (in my case root)
- mid player hits insta CC button (one of two is very likely to be up at any given time), hib player either hits instamezz or insta AE lull followed by castable mezz

So far the alb group is losing - they're going to get mezzed or stunned and there's nothing they can do about it.

What does the minstrel do... well they can either go with the group and try to insta/melee the enemy CCer(s) once the mezz on them breaks, or they can stealth before they're mezzed (at 1500 range or more) and start slllooowwllyyy running around to the back of the other group (else they get mezzed while stealthed which does no-one any good). So by the time they're in a position where they can mezz before being ganked (remember, 5 second cast time ladies), their group (edit: which has been fighting with 7 men against 8 while this has been going on) is in all likelihood dead, or in no fit state to fight back even if the minstrel can mezz the opposing group.

You can take your "mezz from stealth" comebacks, and shove it. They're meaningless excuses for hibs and mids having a blatant advantage.

 

[AbPoon]

It been along time since i seen it on the boards so i gotta say it

Someone got owned

 

[-frostor-]

why does albion not have pom while mid and hib does ?

 

[AbPoon]

Because you have mana song and its 2x as good

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by old.m0000


So the main question again to recap:

How can anyone justify that Hibernia and Midgard have Instant AE Mez when Albion does not?

<puts hib/mid fire protective shield up>

Well, not really a justification but maybe the reason mythic etc. haven't given alb insta cc is that you still have the qc mez? Insta cc is lower duration than castable but quickast is still full duration.
Prolly wrong, maybe they do hate alb.

Purge > qc > mez works just as well as purge> insta-mez for gettin a mez on opponents once you have already been hit. Infact better as you hit them with a full duration mez not a low duration one. And don't tell me it doesn't cos i have ae-mezzed people fine with my purge >qc > ghetto mez before when i've been in a grp w/o bard and i wear cloth and have no insta's etc.
Well, that was before i respecced my ra's to get wp and mom 3, don't have purge atm .

 

[alme]

Insta mezz takes no skill which means any1 can be good at it which means it sook. Whats worse tho is 12 sec aoe stun.

 

[AbPoon]

Blah dont you start aswell

 

[angrysquirrel]

give my bard stealth and trust me, you will never ever leave the pk

ok and other bards too , i dont think i could do it all solo

 

[Molten Lava]

Fuck off

Stop it for once and for ever

Insta = 10 times bigger than QC

Sorc is Alb CC class and they are by far the worst of the three realms

 

[AbPoon]

I feel your pain and i cry for you everynight. irl

 

[poppamies]

hmm...
insta mezz healers get is on 10 min timer.
alb qc mezz is on 30 sec timer (or is it 20? )
I dunno about the rest of the healers but atleast i tend to use my instas the first 2 mins in emain/odins/savage, and after that ill have to use my castable for the next 2-4 fights.
id rather change my instas for a qc, would mean i can cast ae mezz in about 1 sec and get the 56 sec duaration (instead of 22 sec) every 20-30 sec.

 

[old.Wildfire]

I dunno about the rest of the healers but atleast i tend to use my instas the first 2 mins in emain/odins/savage, and after that ill have to use my castable for the next 2-4 fights.

Aahahahahah yes you get into that many group fights. k. Also proving my theory that healers will always go straight for the insta. Bards at least use some skillz and use castable so that they can use insta to defend themselves later on.

Plus surely (deductive logic clicking in here) any intelligent healer burns insta stun first (follow through with castable) leaving you with insta mezz for the next encounter...

edit: id rather have the instas so that im actually alive 30 secs later - multiple QC use aint much good if ur dead now is it?

 

[AbPoon]

Not all healers shoot insta's off at 1st sight of the enemy, thats rather a sweeping statement isnt it WF

 

[Arthwyr]

actualy i can live with being insta mezzed if the group firing the insta mezz hesitates on target selection the mezz will run out before all is lost and if you fuck up on breaking the mezz on too many ppl it could get ugly too ... BUT I have a HUGE problem with being STUNNED let alone AOE stunned right after a mezz and then being mana bombed for 700+ a hit since there is absolutely nothing that can be done against the mezz/stun/nuke combo not to mention enchanters being able to get moc is utter bullocks even if a few odd albs have purchased purge AND have it ready at the time the hib in question fires his moc and still whipes out the entire group. Countles of times i have seen chanters being surrounded and hit by several ppl only to have em use MOC and leave a load of dead albs behind at the spot they just stood at.

 

[old.Xanthian]

Hibs dont get PoM, we get mana song exactly the same as Mincers.

And I love these Albion whine threads, I guess you guys just cant take a beating from Hibs once in a while without crying about it.

 

[old.Wildfire]

xanthian there showing that these days he chooses to "block out" the number of times i pummel his ass into submission on a daily basis

gg.

 

[old.Xanthian]

Sorry Wiffle you still moaning ?

No point arguing my case with you, as like all Albs once you have made your decision to whinge its not gonna change.