ICS Help...

[xane]

Is the w98 machine getting the IP using DHCP from the W2K machine or is it a static assignment ?

 

[Mellow-]

Behold! A technical forum where someone like Wazzer can't get any technical help.

 

[Testin da Cable]

/me faps mellow


we're missing something blatantly obvious I guess. Wazz should post his entire config again.
btw...if one of the cards isn't autonegotiating for some reason or has a dodgy transciever or something this might happen.

 

[Furr]

Just get your hands on windows xp (legally of course ) and install it on the host. the ignorants bastard method

 

[xane]

Also what would help is do an "ipconfig /all" on each machine and post the results here.

 

[Dr_Weasel]

Unless you are dead set on getting the ICS method working, you really pught to consider trying Sygate Home Network out. Sygate Home Network They do a 30 day free trial under the downloads section and then you have to enter a registration code for continued access *cough*.

Ive never had a problem with it, even across machines with different windows versions, something that ICS seems to have issues with.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Sygate is shit.

I just downloaded it and set it all up, configured everything - and then it decides not to start the service, so nothing can ever come of it. There is no reason for it to refuse to start either. Tells me to look at the troubleshooting log, which is handily empty.

Thanks for wasting more of my time!

 

[Dr_Weasel]

User error

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Windows 2000 IP Configuration

        Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : wazzerphuk
        Primary DNS Suffix  . . . . . . . :
        Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
        IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
        WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : VIA VT6102 Rhine II Fast Ethernet Ad
apter
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-50-8D-46-6F-0B
        DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.2
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter The Internet Connection:

        Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
        Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139(A) PCI Fast Ethernet
 Adapter #2
        Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-02-44-1D-25-10
        DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
        Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
        IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 80.192.221.148
        Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 80.192.221.1
        DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.30.112.122
        DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 62.30.112.48
                                            62.30.112.122
        Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 28 February 2003 13:13:06
        Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 01 March 2003 11:25:53

That's my 2K stuff, after Sygate has played around with some stuff. My 98 result:

Windows 98 IP Configuration

        Host Name:                   DODGY.K-LEET
        DNS Servers:                192.168.0.2
        Mode Type:                   Broadcast
        NetBIOS Scope ID:        
        IP Routing Enabled:      No
        WINS Proxy Enabled:    No
        NetBIOS Resolution Uses DNS:     Yes

0 Ethernet Adapter :

        Description:                 The PCI Ethernet LAN Adapter
        Physical Address:        00-50-BA-52-9D-2E
        DHCP Enabled:            No
        IP Address:                  192.168.0.183 (gg sygate logic)
        Subnet Mask:               255.255.255.0
        Default Gateway:        192.168.0.2
Primary WINS Server, Secondary WINS server, Lease Obtained and Lease Expires fields all blank.

 

[Dr_Weasel]

Stupid question, but worth a shot seeing as nothing else is working.....

Do you have a firewall on either machine and if so have you add 192.168.0.0 as a trusted network?

 

[Wazzerphuk]

No firewalls.

 

[Testin da Cable]

wazz, some thoughts:

win98 box: it should only have 192.168.0.2 as it's DNS server if the server is forwarding requests to the "real" servers, otherwise it should be set to whatever the "real" DNS server's IP is.
also turn "NetBIOS uses DNS" off, because you don't need it iirc.

win2k box: I see that IP Routing is off. I think it should be on, of you are using a funky routing firewall and don't need it for some reason. you'll also need NAT to be able to go "outside" from the '98 poota. if you have all that running already I didn't say anything.

btw, you know what I think of 'doze heh

 

[Wazzerphuk]

and where the fuck is there an option for me to turn ip routing on?

 

[Testin da Cable]

I dunno. windows is sucky like that. perhaps it's some unnamed, undocumented service that only MS's most trusted minions (aka Summo) know about.

 

[leggy]

Originally posted by Wazzerphuk
and where the fuck is there an option for me to turn ip routing on?

type winipcfg in start>run

Goto your nic and check the box

/edit

or is that where you check it is enabled :/... can't remember.

It's either in network/tcp settings or winipcfg.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

winipcfg doesn't exist in 2k.

and it's not in any of the options for tcp stuff or with any other network stuff.

 

[Testin da Cable]

in NT4 you had to edit a registry key to get it to work :/

 

[leggy]

Originally posted by Wazzerphuk
winipcfg doesn't exist in 2k.

I should have read the whole thread... i thought you were referring to win98. :/

 

[Mellow-]

Win2k has IPCONFIG, go to a DOS prompt and type IPCONFIG /? to see if there's any options to enable IP routing.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

It would appear not...

Windows 2000 IP Configuration


USAGE:
   ipconfig [/? | /all | /release [adapter] | /renew [adapter]
            | /flushdns | /registerdns
            | /showclassid adapter
            | /setclassid adapter [classidtoset] ]

   adapter    Full name or pattern with '*' and '?' to 'match',
              * matches any character, ? matches one character.
   Options
       /?           Display this help message.
       /all         Display full configuration information.
       /release     Release the IP address for the specified adapter.
       /renew       Renew the IP address for the specified adapter.
       /flushdns    Purges the DNS Resolver cache.
       /registerdns Refreshes all DHCP leases and re-registers DNS names
       /displaydns  Display the contents of the DNS Resolver Cache.
       /showclassid Displays all the dhcp class IDs allowed for adapter.
       /setclassid  Modifies the dhcp class id.

The default is to display only the IP address, subnet mask and
default gateway for each adapter bound to TCP/IP.

For Release and Renew, if no adapter name is specified, then the IP address
leases for all adapters bound to TCP/IP will be released or renewed.

For SetClassID, if no class id is specified, then the classid is removed.

Examples:
    > ipconfig                       ... Show information.
    > ipconfig /all                  ... Show detailed information
    > ipconfig /renew                ... renew all adapaters
    > ipconfig /renew EL*            ... renew adapters named EL....
    > ipconfig /release *ELINK?21*   ... release all matching adapters,
                                         eg. ELINK-21, myELELINKi21adapter.

 

[Mellow-]

I presume you've given both your PC's a name in the Network Identification options (right click my computer)

 

[xane]

The W2K output shows the LAN IP adress as 192.168.0.2, you need this as *.1 for ICS to work.

I'd reinstall ICS on it, to wipe out all the damage done by Sygate.

 

[Testin da Cable]

are you seriously saying that windows won't allow ICS if the internal IP doesn't end in *.1??

my god :/

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Originally posted by Mellow-
I presume you've given both your PC's a name in the Network Identification options (right click my computer)

2k = wazzerphuk
98 = dodgy

xane: I've had it on *.1 before, and it didn't work then. Makes no difference to the performance or behaviour of the network. (I.E. pining is ok, but there's no network or net access)

 

[Mellow-]

HOW TO: Set Up Internet Connection Sharing in Windows 2000

How to Configure ICS for Use with DSL Connections That Use PPPoE Adapters

Both Client and Host Require Logon for ICS to Function

 

[xane]

Originally posted by Wazzerphuk
xane: I've had it on *.1 before, and it didn't work then. Makes no difference to the performance or behaviour of the network. (I.E. pining is ok, but there's no network or net access)

I am certain ICS requires the "host" to be 192.168.0.1, I think you can also use 169.254.0.1, when you first enable sharing it will set the LAN card as this address.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Originally posted by xane


I am certain ICS requires the "host" to be 192.168.0.1, I think you can also use 169.254.0.1, when you first enable sharing it will set the LAN card as this address.

Yeh. And it didn't work then. See previous post.

 

[Mellow-]

It's very odd, you've got the Win98 machine looking at the Win2k's LAN NIC and the Win2k getting it's IP from DHCP, so you can ping each other, but you can't do anything else? Like see each other on the network neighbourhood?

 

[Wazzerphuk]

That's entirely my problem Mellow, aye. Confoooooooosing!

 

[kameleon]

have you tried them the other way around? With the 98 box being the host?