prozze said:give 25% resist pierce in caster template
and 15% to not use mana (jacinas + traldor)
and 25% mana, ~20 dex cap ~20 int cap
zahur, ceremonian bracer, immolated ring x2, (gov), jacinas, traldors, scalars
[NO]Magmatic said:Just for the fun of it, lets say someone does have money to spend...
Make a suit with 5% active resist piercing from either Zahur / Cloudsong, 5% active resist piercing from Traldor, and 15% passive resist piercing (preferably from Jacina/Erinys/Traldor) and 4% damage from GoV / Nailah (Preferably GoV), 10% speed/range and as much power/+skill/+cap as you can get... And, cap resists + stats... For a 'perfect' suit, get +11 cold and as much +fire as possible...
Anything goes, the most exotic items you can think off...
Currently I've got +10 int/dex, 15% resist piercing (passive), 10% active (cloudsong/traldor), 4% damage, cap'd resist/stats/cold magic, +7 fire, 10% power, 10% speed, 14% (bah) range... Think that was it, oh and +11 buffs, 7 more AF for teh winz (only 82 int though, instead of 85)
Top that and get a cookie
(would suck though, as I'd have to remake my SC suit )
[NO]Magmatic said:Top that and get a cookie
(would suck though, as I'd have to remake my SC suit )
I wonder how you'd get more %dmg without sacrificing resist piercing, because the only item that has it except nailah/gov is taratos, which means dumping traldor, and traldor > taratos... But hey 15% passive resist piercing (or more, but again dont think thats possible) and 4% damage or more (but dont think thats possible without dropping traldor)...Old.Ilum said:You need more %dmg
[NO]Magmatic said:I wonder how you'd get more %dmg without sacrificing resist piercing, because the only item that has it except nailah/gov is taratos, which means dumping traldor, and traldor > taratos... But hey 15% passive resist piercing (or more, but again dont think thats possible) and 4% damage or more (but dont think thats possible without dropping traldor)...
All resists 24% or more, matter could slide to 20% ish, but not much lower... (we run into shammy's a lot and they do use their dot an awefull lot to kill me when bodyguarded)
I'm rather attached to my cookies, so it better be good
Sycho said:Zahur's crown/traldor's oracle and maddening scalars i probably use, that a good combo?xD
So you mean dropping 5% resist piercing for 2% dmg?Old.Ilum said:There is a belt with 2% spell dmg atleast
[NO]Magmatic said:So you mean dropping 5% resist piercing for 2% dmg?
(and the level 10 25% group power-ability)
Now that aint a good trade off now is it ?
Apparently you can drop cloudsong for the ML9 feathered cloak and get Zahur crown, but I think I'd be down 5% casting speed, which can be gotten else where ofc, but where
I cant test this easely myself, but from what I hear from Garb (RR11 eld on exc) says that resist piercing is substracted first (so lets say 26 - 15% passive, 11% left) and after that debuff is applied...Old.Ilum said:Dunno, I play Cabalist so I don't really need that much resist piercing - it's atleast not worth sacrificing %damage to get.
[NO]Magmatic said:I cant test this easely myself, but from what I hear from Garb (RR11 eld on exc) says that resist piercing is substracted first (so lets say 26 - 15% passive, 11% left) and after that debuff is applied...
If thats true (as said, cant test this myself), then you'd have as much gain from resist piercing as I do... More so then 2% extra damage...
Seeing 5% resist piercing == 5% more damage unless your up against high levels of AoM / BAoD, in which case its a bit less... And the 2% damage is affected by resists, at least thats my guess... (depends if the extra damage is added on your damage before or after resist)
[NO]Magmatic said:If thats true (as said, cant test this myself), then you'd have as much gain from resist piercing as I do... More so then 2% extra damage...
Old.Ilum said:Hm...
2) You can't debuff below -5%, which means 50% debuff + 10-15% resist pierce is always enough, unless facing BaoD.
Nailah / Tartaros dont increase cap, unlike MoM... At least I've not seen a cap increase with the 4% from GoV...Equendil said:Once you hit for cap, you gain 0% damage though, whereas you can raise your cap with tartaros/nailah and nuke those mids even harder
Granted, hibs are more tricky with their 50% resist to body.
[NO]Magmatic said:The way the resists got changed is that you only get 50% debuff if the person your debuffing is buffed (e.g. has resist buffs), wouldnt be supprised (knowing mythic) that this is bugged though... End result is only 30ish % debuff instead of 50%...
Cabalist/Enchanter/Runemaster changes
- The Diminish Immunities line in the Cabalist Vivification list, the Vex of Cold line in the Runemaster Runes of Destruction list, and the Amplify Heat
line in the Enchanter Empowering line have been reduced from 15 to 8 seconds. These three lines debuff damage types the caster herself can cast, which makes the leeway provided by the increased "teamwork" duration the other resist debuff lines have unnecessary.
- Previously, resist debuffs counted double versus resist buffs. This has been changed to make them count normally against item, buff, and racial resists.The second bit is complete non sense, that's for sure.
My guess is Mythic used their sledgehammer and made debuffs half as effective, called it a fix, and made up that confusing thing in the patch note.
That would make the best debuff 31%, which is consistant with the -5% end result on a target with 26% item resists.
Oh, btw, Tartaros and Nailah's trully increase your cap, and even better, the bonus is cumulative with Mastery of Magery from what I gathered. Cap record on a baseline 179 nuke with MoM5, tartaros, nailah's and active 5% from traldor is 705 = 179*3*1.15 (MoM) * 1.14 (Artifacts).