Alternatively you can roll a ranger and leech your way through the realm ranks eh?
Faril said:Fun getting wiped every run?
elbeek said:Alternatively you can roll a ranger and leech your way through the realm ranks eh?
elbeek said:Alternatively you can roll a ranger and leech your way through the realm ranks eh?
Flimgoblin said:3fg at 4am sounds like "people who just play at that time".
Bit crap if you're not online but it's hardly logging in 12fg when the enemy has noone on.
Obviously there were enough mids on to defend since they got wiped every run?
(not to mention that small groups of both mids and hibs tried this before they took them back on sunday)
Pipppi said:lol was it 3fgs??....mates thats hardly a raid. And mid has made several raids like that with fgs staying up late having nothing to do and give a try on relic.
So imo before u call albs lame cuz of sumtin 3fgs did u shud take a look at ur own realm, i thinks u still just wanno brag cuz u took 3 relix from albs last weekend.
If u actually make a zerg get up at 5am to raid teh relic then it cud be considered lame, this is just an opportunityraid.
RS|Phil said:We all do it, just Mid doesn't organise it, or hasn't in recent memory. Usually we get three or four people firing fool's bow at a keep, then one will suicide and get a siege ram.
That's not the same.
We saw 3fg of Albs massing at Beno at 02:00 and even though we were expecting a possible raid, they still had enough preparation to get a war ram and three trebs up within minutes of hitting Fens.
So, hats off for the organisation mates but you can't really compare that to three gimpy hunters and a boredlock bombing Beno towers. I think that's the main gripe.
Personally I don't care. It bugs me that PvE relic raids are even possible tbh but that's no ones fault. I've said so many times before that players are gonna play to win and they can't really be blamed. As much sense to blame Bob the Albion for the population of his realm - Not his fault now is it that they have over twice as many players? He's just playing the game.
The simple solution is a change to the game. Lock the relics from 01:00 to 08:00 CET .. UNLESS there is any substantial keep action going on. Like if Beno is US or whatever, then the relics stay open but if its 1AM and there's nothing big happening in the frontier the relics lock. You could even restrict this to homeland relics (ie your realms own relics are safe but ones in keeps are not). Even a viable story could be added....thus...
"Mighty Jarl Hussar of the Relic keep has decreed the supply lines are to be made secure this night. All women and childen are to remain inside the keeps! Bar the gates - no intruder will gain passage this night!"
Easy answer and not that hard to think of tbh.
Kerith said:i was in the grp that initiated the RR, wasn't a premeditated 'alarm-clock' raid, we just got grp going with some .es m8s on LAN and there was nothing to kill in lagramon, so someone suggested taking a tower to lure some mids, then someone said why not draw them out by attacking relic keep, and so it progressed from there.
lol ru retarded ? u think it takes organisation to get 3 rams and some trebs ? it took 30 mins from deciding to raid to moving to odins. there was no organisation behind it, so get off your high horse thinkin u pwned a precise pre-empted attack
Zeratuhl said:Or join synergy and add to oblivion!? doublestandards 4 life !
Kerith said:a very poor comparison, considering your appraisal of the albion raid was total bullshit
RS|Phil said:they still had enough preparation to get a war ram and three trebs up within minutes of hitting Fens.
Pipppi said:why are u even argruing with ppl that were there etc? ur guesses and assumptions doesnt really hold against facts
Sye said:Correct me if im wrong but i believe its the l33t RvR guilds that try taking the relics in the morning and they dont even bother reading FH so not sure the relevance of posting about it on here.
Cant be that much of an l33t guild if they need relics to win battles
Lethul said:Thanks for your contribution, but if I had wanted to hear from somebody with your IQ, I'd be at my local supermarket talking to the vegetables. As Robert Wilensky said: "We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true."
Pipppi said:why are u even argruing with ppl that were there etc? ur guesses and assumptions doesnt really hold against facts
what u shud do is compare their 3fg raid to similar mid 3fg raids not to ure 4 hunters and warlock raids!RS|Phil said:Who was that? I was the in the thick of it.
You're trying to force this off-topc really by being an idiot. Not really shocking - this is what this is after all.
My point was about the difference in raids, not that actual raid, and that it's unfair to call Mids hypocrites because we don't organise raids at 02:00. We have relic raided very late, and as I said that's just a few FB users. You can't deny the disparity of four Mids bored at 02:00 to 3fg of Albs arming up. Okay it doesn't take a lot of work but it takes some.
The latest raid I know of was organised by myself at 01:00 and we got inside Beno but got wiped. That was a few weeks ago and we started with six people. So you see there's a difference.
I'll say again I aren't bothered. It's part of the time and it's not the players' fault - I'm merely pointing out the difference. If you can't see there IS a difference then you're blinder than a skald hit by capped nearsight.
RS|Phil said:Who was that? I was the in the thick of it.
You're trying to force this off-topc really by being an idiot. Not really shocking - this is what this is after all.
My point was about the difference in raids, not that actual raid, and that it's unfair to call Mids hypocrites because we don't organise raids at 02:00. We have relic raided very late, and as I said that's just a few FB users. You can't deny the disparity of four Mids bored at 02:00 to 3fg of Albs arming up. Okay it doesn't take a lot of work but it takes some.
The latest raid I know of was organised by myself at 01:00 and we got inside Beno but got wiped. That was a few weeks ago and we started with six people. So you see there's a difference.
I'll say again I aren't bothered. It's part of the time and it's not the players' fault - I'm merely pointing out the difference. If you can't see there IS a difference then you're blinder than a skald hit by capped nearsight.
Pipppi said:what u shud do is compare their 3fg raid to similar mid 3fg raids not to ure 4 hunters and warlock raids!
tbh go to the corner shop and buy a clue. cos you depserately need one