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AtriX

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wtf is up with you allways strafing your ass off.. ill kill you everytime if it wasent for that i miss/out of view you 8 out of 10 times.. becurse you strafe.. you must be a proud rr9 ranger i see.
 

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<SNIGGLES>hehehhehehehehehehe

Gets out Binoclaurs 0-0 feek someone got Owned:(
 

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Strafing is a skill u must learn as a stealther ... and also how to avoid getting strafed. :p
Habemus used to be a good ranger...sadly he has found a place on my KoS list lately, not sure why tho.
 

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AtriX said:
wtf is up with you allways strafing your ass off.. ill kill you everytime if it wasent for that i miss/out of view you 8 out of 10 times.. becurse you strafe.. you must be a proud rr9 ranger i see.

Strafing is a skill fyi, clicking icons with a mouse makes you a n00b, solo'ing is for gimps that don't know how to play the game the correct way, rr11 sorc's need a bot and PvE'ing keep's is the way togo!
 

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AtriX said:
wtf is up with you allways strafing your ass off.. ill kill you everytime if it wasent for that i miss/out of view you 8 out of 10 times.. becurse you strafe.. you must be a proud rr9 ranger i see.

learn to live with it or /quit
 

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AtriX said:
wtf is up with you allways strafing your ass off.. ill kill you everytime if it wasent for that i miss/out of view you 8 out of 10 times.. becurse you strafe.. you must be a proud rr9 ranger i see.

are you demongrim ?
 

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Someone tell me exactly why strafing is a skill, if you see sleezers movie for example; runthrough -> walk backwards -> backstyle. Or VF scout movie; walk backwards, face/stick, walk backwards, face/stick. Same goes for landing ice storm ofc. Is it such a skill to abuse the game mechanics to land a certain style you otherwise couldnt or to give your opponent an "out of view" message. If so, do you have to strafe to win? Ie. the skills you are lacking, you try to make up with strafing from Hibernia to Albion and back again, so you might win a battle or 2?
 

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pip said:
<SNIGGLES>hehehhehehehehehehe

Gets out Binoclaurs 0-0 feek someone got Owned:(

was it a dream or did i see you in hib lately pippiboi:p?
 

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Tuthmes said:
Someone tell me exactly why strafing is a skill, if you see sleezers movie for example; runthrough -> walk backwards -> backstyle. Or VF scout movie; walk backwards, face/stick, walk backwards, face/stick. Same goes for landing ice storm ofc. Is it such a skill to abuse the game mechanics to land a certain style you otherwise couldnt or to give your opponent an "out of view" message. If so, do you have to strafe to win? Ie. the skills you are lacking, you try to make up with strafing from Hibernia to Albion and back again, so you might win a battle or 2?

Not like standing face to face spamming styles towards eachother is skills either tho. :p
The person that evades, blocks, parrys etc the most wins. Plain and simple.
1vs1 doesnt involve much skill tbh, the one that abuses the game mechanics the most and gets lucky wins. :p
 

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Tuthmes said:
Someone tell me exactly why strafing is a skill, if you see sleezers movie for example; runthrough -> walk backwards -> backstyle. Or VF scout movie; walk backwards, face/stick, walk backwards, face/stick. Same goes for landing ice storm ofc. Is it such a skill to abuse the game mechanics to land a certain style you otherwise couldnt or to give your opponent an "out of view" message. If so, do you have to strafe to win? Ie. the skills you are lacking, you try to make up with strafing from Hibernia to Albion and back again, so you might win a battle or 2?

I agree with Tuthmes here tho, it's just so fucking easy to get 7-sec stun in on Hunter that it's not even funny. (Altho I failed horribly cause I didn't have end :D)
 

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Tuthmes said:
Someone tell me exactly why strafing is a skill, if you see sleezers movie for example; runthrough -> walk backwards -> backstyle. Or VF scout movie; walk backwards, face/stick, walk backwards, face/stick. Same goes for landing ice storm ofc. Is it such a skill to abuse the game mechanics to land a certain style you otherwise couldnt or to give your opponent an "out of view" message. If so, do you have to strafe to win? Ie. the skills you are lacking, you try to make up with strafing from Hibernia to Albion and back again, so you might win a battle or 2?

ROFL get ur facts straight, walking thru the other guy isnt really strafing(more like abusing the game mechanics), strafing is something that makes ur char move sideways and if ur good on the mouse u can actually get positionals off which is necessery in my case cuz 2h line isnt really fluffy for soloing, altho if the opponent knows how to use mouse for moving it is way too easy to counter this and even give the guy and advantage for me to start getting out of view and all that crap

Also.. as Septina said, it makes melee fights alot more intresting :) I dno, maybe u have to be a hardcore FPS player to understand this, who knows :x
 

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Septina said:
Not like standing face to face spamming styles towards eachother is skills either tho. :p
The person that evades, blocks, parrys etc the most wins. Plain and simple.
1vs1 doesnt involve much skill tbh, the one that abuses the game mechanics the most and gets lucky wins. :p

Yeh exactly and even though face to face doesnt involve much skills, there are still a couple of reactionary's or things todo left and if you get a reactionary stunn of or slam off, move to a different possition then.
In all fairness face to face gives a more honest battle, instead of strafing and abusing game mechanics to win.
I've seen battle's with habemus vs someone else that strafed which started at dc bridge and ended up at DC tower 4. But i guess we can't all play fair, nor rely on Mythic to ever fix this problem :|.
 

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grizzy said:
Also.. as Septina said, it makes melee fights alot more intresting :) I dno, maybe u have to be a hardcore FPS player to understand this, who knows :x

You strafe in FPS games so you get hit less and to create an harder aim target for your foe. Doing this in an MMORPG doesn't make the solo fight fair. It just created advantages for yourself, you cannot really name this fair now, can you?
 

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grizzy said:
ROFL get ur facts straight, walking thru the other guy isnt really strafing(more like abusing the game mechanics), strafing is something that makes ur char move sideways and if ur good on the mouse u can actually get positionals off which is necessery in my case cuz 2h line isnt really fluffy for soloing, altho if the opponent knows how to use mouse for moving it is way too easy to counter this and even give the guy and advantage for me to start getting out of view and all that crap

Also.. as Septina said, it makes melee fights alot more intresting :) I dno, maybe u have to be a hardcore FPS player to understand this, who knows :x

Well if walking through is more like abusing game mechanics, then so should strafing sideways and landing a sidestyle, when someone's facing you. About harcore FPS players, we all know they are the biggest cheaters there are in this world. :p
On the otherhand i wouldnt mind strafing/walkthrough but then Mythic should do something about the game mechanics and enterly loose /face and /stick.
 

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ebenezer said:
was it a dream or did i see you in hib lately pippiboi:p?
YE come to help you folk out:) was about as welcome as a turd in a swimming pool:(
 

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Congax said:
You strafe in FPS games so you get hit less and to create an harder aim target for your foe. Doing this in an MMORPG doesn't make the solo fight fair. It just created advantages for yourself, you cannot really name this fair now, can you?

euh ... didnt i mention u can counter strafing by actually using ur mouse ? which means u can easily turn those advantages i have over to disadvantages
 

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grizzy said:
euh ... didnt i mention u can counter strafing by actually using ur mouse ? which means u can easily turn those advantages i have over to disadvantages

So then you'd get two strafing players who constantly keep counter-strafing eachother! That kinda makes the point of strafing obsolete, they could just aswell stand still :-p
 

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Tuthmes said:
Well if walking through is more like abusing game mechanics, then so should strafing sideways and landing a sidestyle, when someone's facing you. About harcore FPS players, we all know they are the biggest cheaters there are in this world. :p
On the otherhand i wouldnt mind strafing/walkthrough but then Mythic should do something about the game mechanics and enterly loose /face and /stick.

just said it to Congax and will say it to u also, strafing CAN be countered, not with using /face or /stick (i dont use any of those in a 1 vs 1 fight myself) but by simply learning to use ur mouse... if ppl did know how to use theyr mouse, there wud barely be any strafe QQ
 

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Congax said:
So then you'd get two strafing players who constantly keep counter-strafing eachother! That kinda makes the point of strafing obsolete, they could just aswell stand still :-p

well , heres where the skill part comes in which actually makes it intresting and luck doesnt become the biggest factor anymore
 

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grizzy said:
well , heres where the skill part comes in which actually makes it intresting and luck doesnt become the biggest factor anymore

Let's take an exemple:

One the left side we have a fine celt Blademaster, and on the right side we have a Half-Ogre mercenary.

The fight begins! BM starts turning around, spamming Ice-storm and taunt style back-up.
Merc sees this and is like: 'y0, not with me. He starts strafing around so the other one cant stun and spams side-style with taunt as back-up.

They all just hit eachother with taunt, but at the end of the fight, one of them will hurl in a bucket. :p
 

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grizzy said:
just said it to Congax and will say it to u also, strafing CAN be countered, not with using /face or /stick (i dont use any of those in a 1 vs 1 fight myself) but by simply learning to use ur mouse... if ppl did know how to use theyr mouse, there wud barely be any strafe QQ

Where did i stated you could counter strafing by /face and /stick, cause the whole discussion is about that you obviously cant that way :O
 

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Congax said:
Let's take an exemple:

One the left side we have a fine celt Blademaster, and on the right side we have a Half-Ogre mercenary.

The fight begins! BM starts turning around, spamming Ice-storm and taunt style back-up.
Merc sees this and is like: 'y0, not with me. He starts strafing around so the other one cant stun and spams side-style with taunt as back-up.

They all just hit eachother with taunt, but at the end of the fight, one of them will hurl in a bucket. :p

no


doesnt have to be like that, mistakes can be made and are made in this business also.
theres also this pov that if the merc is crush specced he can get hes anytimer stun chain off, but the BM in the other hand has a good evade and parry chain if hes pierce specced
 

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grizzy said:
no


doesnt have to be like that, mistakes can be made and are made in this business also.
theres also this pov that if the merc is crush specced he can get hes anytimer stun chain off, but the BM in the other hand has a good evade and parry chain if hes pierce specced

There's also a pov that you might miss your parry reactionary, cause you both strafed and got an oov message.
 

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Elitestoner said:
lol, its easily counterable..

Nobody is denying the fact it that you can counter it, its more about the annoyance it causes!
 

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Tuthmes said:
There's also a pov that you might miss your parry reactionary, cause you both strafed and got an oov message.

omg WHY have i talked about using ur MOUSE all the time? maybe to POINT urself in the opponents direction so u DONT get oov, ok :p?
 

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