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Hawkwind

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Fractals groups

Hawky, hit me up on Gwadien, I'll do a run with you, my guild are asking for peeps to do this on a regular :)

Will do, should be on later today after work, from 1 pm GMT. Did two runs yesterday, first one we cleared first fractal easily (grawl) then second one we completed with only 4 group members at the end of which people disbanded. Second Group only lasted first instance - SSDD :). I gave up to go level my Assassin after that :/
 

Roo Stercogburn

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To date I've not been impressed with any of the GW2 dungeons - DPS race + Dodge. Zzzz. Rather like the Fractals though.
 

Ctuchik

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To date I've not been impressed with any of the GW2 dungeons - DPS race + Dodge.


Switch dodging with healing and it's still a DPS race, you just have healers to keep you alive instead.

Only difference is the DPS race is more kill boss before healers go OOM....
 

Dard

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If any guilds taking new members I am mainly levelling on Sair Du Daoc my Menty :)
 

Gwadien

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Just to let you all know;

Lords of England are recruiting over on Gunnars Hold.

It's a very balanced guild doing WvW focused nights on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays. Apart from those nights everyone dabbles in a bit of PvE and WvW.

Gunnars Hold is a dying server though, we're trying to grow to a be a dominant guild on the server so we can try to beat larger zergs that we always seem to meet.

We're looking for individual recruits, and guilds to merge into ours, we use Teamspeak 3, and are generally a older maturer guild (Can't be said for all of us though ;))

So drop me a PM on here, in game, or go directly to the forum to make an app!

http://kensei.be/forum/

Ta!
 

Gwadien

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By the way, we're transferring to Aurora's Glade since Gunnars is getting pretty poor, so you're pretty much welcome to follow!
 

Gwadien

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Voting for LoE rescinded :p
Roo, you should really really join us man, there's little point sticking around on Gunnars anymore, we tried to rezz it, but since the big guilds have jumped ship we may as well follow suit since it's going to take a while to go down the ranks and be along the other dead servers.

Do it before they start charging for transfers.
 

Ctuchik

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since it's going to take a while to go down the ranks and be along the other dead servers.

You're already there, you were up against my server (Whiteside Ridge) a few weeks ago and there's only 2 servers that's doing worse then we are in WvW.. :)

/edit: official WvW ratings dec 7th.

https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/28934/WvwRatingsEu-12-7.PNG

Forum post: https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Updated-World-Ratings-Dec-7
 

Gwadien

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Ctuchik

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Gonna try to convince my guild to change server to one that at least tries. I don't mind losing but being at the bottom 3 is kinda humiliating...
 

Gwadien

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Gonna try to convince my guild to change server to one that at least tries. I don't mind losing but being at the bottom 3 is kinda humiliating...
If you pick one, chose Auroras, was in a similar boat to us, but organisation is beginning to take shape
 

Gwadien

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Pretty dissappointed with Danish Huscarls tonight, Jumped one of their members, who proceeded to log out when I downed them, then 2 of his guildies jumped me.

Sucky sucky sucky!
 

Corran

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Transfers are horrible. SHould be paid for only.

I love the bitterness some people have for transfers, especially when they take it personally. Nidhogg is a prime example of a player whom goes from being friendly to acting like a little bitter kid. I got infracted on official forums for saying he must be getting bitter and senile in old age after responding to one of his post .... which he also must have been infracted for given it got deleted, along with his opening post infraction he done well in that thread. lol.

Anyways. Yes, transfers should have been paid for only long ago. Unfortunately that cost will be gems. So only take 10g max to get enough gold to xfer to gems to move. Something no one will have issues doing for a server that is dead or dying which means it wont fix the issue.
GH has suffered alot because of 2 large outfluxes.
1) The elitest guilds a good couple months back
2) The mass xfer of randoms to Piken Square a few weeks back.

That 2nd outgoing is what killed the server.
PvE is awful with all of Orr zones constantly contested, and limited number of PuGs for dungeons. I really dont know where all the population is (well alot are camping Lions arch it sems alot), though this been a lonog term problem to be honest.
WvW is great if you happy to defend what you hold. Ie just staying on Gunnars boardland. Sure very late at night (like 00:00 onwards) you could get somewhere on other maps but primetime you cant as it always 10vs60+.Often tried to ninja things with groups of 5-15 but because of nothing else going on over the map it was impossible as keeps fully upgraded and enemy could respond with large numbers to any "contested" keeps. Didnt even have to put orange swords up for large numbers to appear.

Even tested this. I took a quaggan camp so it would contest a keep. I was only one on map. Next thing i saw was 40 players from the german server suddenly run into the keep after porting back to garrison and making the short run to hills north door. Hilarious :)

No doubt someone on GH will say I mentioned Nid here but I already offered to send him a copy of the deleted message as he said he didnt see it :p
 

Roo Stercogburn

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I love the bitterness some people have for transfers, especially when they take it personally. Nidhogg is a prime example of a player whom goes from being friendly to acting like a little bitter kid. I got infracted on official forums for saying he must be getting bitter and senile in old age after responding to one of his post .... which he also must have been infracted for given it got deleted, along with his opening post infraction he done well in that thread. lol.

I don't recall seeing or hearing any negative comments from Niddhog regarding LoE. I admit I've hardly been around at the weekend (as usual). Briefly late on Saturday for a very short time.

Also, the GW2 official forum mods are the most nazi I've ever seen. Any personal insult, not matter how small, gets infracted. I myself got infracted when I commented on the type of people who use ALT+F4 and didn't even direct the post at anyone in particular.

I've already raised the idea of a boundary regarding when is the last we can leave transferring and in my own mind I'm fairly sure what that is. However, should the remaining community agree to go it is unlikely it would be to Aurora Glade, though that is a matter for discussion and some may choose to do so. It is likely that a mass transfer will see many go different directions.

Whether people want to admit it or not, keeping the free transfers open beyond a few initial weeks is killing servers. Even if some people get to the point where they transfer because a server population has declined beyond what they see as viable, usually the initial transfer-rush is guilds that are desperate to be heading for the top tier at any cost (usually without wishing to be seen as such - the amusing thing is that these guilds then often start trying to make out they are the reason this or that server was successful in the first place despite being themselves johnny-come-latelies).

We'll see what the next few weeks bring.
 

Urgat

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I gave up worrying about the scores after the first week, when it became obvious that "winning" a match-up was decided by numbers and off peak coverage.

What matters to me and the guys I regularly group with, is quality fights.
 

svartalf

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I love the bitterness some people have for transfers, especially when they take it personally.

Bitterness regarding transfers is merely bitterness towards the world manifest in the micro. I am simply a bitter person : personally bitter is what I R.
 

Corran

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I don't recall seeing or hearing any negative comments from Niddhog regarding LoE. I admit I've hardly been around at the weekend (as usual). Briefly late on Saturday for a very short time.

You wont see the comments considering they have been deleted by Anet. Given that my response was deleted and I had the backing of some of my guild with the message I deemed it safest for the guild to report the message to Anet and get it removed before anyone else responded to it.
Basically it contained comments regarding myself and his guild members talking shit, and then an insult in as to what LoE have been doing on AG which was again total bullshit. He made it simply to try get a response and he got one. Seems Nid doesnt want the response as he didnt mail me back :p

..
In regards to a mass transfer move, it is tough to find a server that has the right makeup for people to go to.

1) Active PvE community - (I know one guild on GH that has good PvP players that thinking of moving due to this. But Im not willing to name them)
2) Active PvP community
3) Doesnt have alot of queues
4) Low enough in the ranks for me to feel I could make a differnce to the server, rather than being a leech. Would have loved to gone to Piken Square but I would feel a leech given the amount that got there over the years.

AG may not have the best name, but tbh most servers I been against I had people emote spam after zerging me so I didnt take that into account. It really hard to figure what server to go to when you cant see enemy names and speak to them therefore was kinda best guess. But the community so far has been pretty good even if the skill level isnt the greatest (in regards to randoms - but that the case on all servers. Managed to kill GH zerg with LoE Saturday night when they had 2-3 times our number... though other times get absolutely slaughtered by equal numbers :D )

Please do keep me in touch as to where you are going. I doubt LoE would move again but that option is always there if we dont find the playstyle we are looking for longterm (or the guild dies and some us want to move on - though that dont look likely at the moment )
 

Xandax

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I love the bitterness some people have for transfers, especially when they take it personally. <snip>

Most "bitterness" seems to come from people jumping ship to higher ranks and then claiming skills when they win matchups.
For G.H. as a server I suspect a lot of the bitterness might come from the fact that in the one day matchups - the server did well and many people did not have much respect for the zerg servers - A.G. as one example, Blacktide as another - because we beat them without numbers.
Then the transfer-game in GW2 ruined WvW for many servers because some of the more ..... profiled guilds - couldn't stand lack of off-peak coverage and thus migrated to a few servers, basically pulling other servers down.

I suspect many of us had hoped for a bit more 'server pride' like in DAoC when we heard about it being World vs. World instead of a faction vs. faction (Warhammer), but seeing as WvW became about off-peak numbers that idea was shot down fast. Now personally - I can't fault anybody for moving as that's the game of Guild Wars 2 (and I'd likely do it myself if I were playing atm) when it comes to WvW, but that does not mean I cannot see both the fault in the system and the effect it had on those left behind and that there's no added skill in having another server tag as some seem to think.
 

Roo Stercogburn

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Then the transfer-game in GW2 ruined WvW for many servers because some of the more ..... profiled guilds - couldn't stand lack of off-peak coverage and thus migrated to a few servers, basically pulling other servers down.

I still can't believe the bullheaded refusal of many to admit that off peak / nightcapping is the determining factor in WvW in GW2 and for the most part the only determing factor in a server's success against other servers.
 

Gwadien

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It wasn't the fact that we were losing every match up, it was the fact we were losing every fight, and if I may be so bold, it wasn't our fault, we could handle that we were the only guild trying to take a tower/keep in certain zones after crying out for support, and no-one would turn up, apart from 10x our own number in enemies, which frankly, got pretty boring, it got over the edge when we resorted to more guerilla tactics, simply sticking to taking supply camps and stuff, but eventually finding out we were facing again, 10x our own number, because it was evident that we were the only force from our server that was bothering (I'm not trying to have a dig at any guilds here) but frankly, apart from KISS, there were no other major guilds on the server (I don't even count LoE as major) most the other guilds (from DAOC and stuff) were smaller skirmishing guilds that weren't interested in larger-scale fights, so they could easily keep out of the zergs way.

I repetatively said earlier in the days when the guild were asking if we should transfer, no!, because we'll eventually hit rock bottom, and probably find there's other servers in the same boat as us, and we did hit near-enough rock bottom, but found that these servers were pulling pretty decent numbers, but they were pretty shit players, in one respect highlighted the 'skill' that Gunnars generally had and probably still has, but it generally didn't help us winning fights.

It's evident that after this match-up we'll move far away from Gunnars as a server, and trust me, I've not had the best of time fighting Gunnars, because frankly, it was extremely unfair to be matched up against us in one respect, but obviously, prior to the influx of guilds heading to Auroras, it was probably fairish (Although Auroras would've still given Gunnars a good 'ole beating).

I wish Gunnars the best of luck, and hope we didn't leave in a shroud of bitterness, and people actually understand the reason why we left, yes it was lame, but childishly enough 'They did it first!' :(

Hopefully eventually ANet will realise that some servers are severely underpowered and rather than 'biting the bullet' and transferring due to their pride, they'll get actively encouraged to move to a particular server where they won't receive such a bollocking, and if this is the case, it would still be pretty awesome if all the ex-DAOC crowd were in the same place again!

Cheers.
 

Kami

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Problem is that it's not actually DAOC so getting that crowd there won't do much. PvP in GW2 has been a huge disappointment for me, it feels completely sodding pointless compared to DAOC. I'm actually tempted to go start an account on the DAOC US server rather than continue with GW2 :)
 

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