Guard !

[Mavl]

Originally posted by Tranquil-
Imo dual wield needs toning down and assist trains should be nerfed. Why should I "live with it"? Mythic WANTS feedback, that should be pretty obvious. That I post my meaning here has little bearing on that, but nm that. I'm free to post my meanings just as much as you can whinge yours.

lots of things i dont like too u know

FYI guard blocks from any direction so that's bullshit. And I have guard myself and I know how it works, how well and when you listen wouldn't change one bit and I couldn't care less if you listen or not. You are the one that's biased; usedtobe caster and now shieldtank. That's about as dipped in as you can get.

Did you _Ever_ run in group and serve as a main guard for your support chars ?

Normal blocking is and has never been the same as the guard ability, which is what _I'm_ discussing.

And he wouldn't get to kill you if you were unhurt or if you are as good as you obviously have to be. I suppose you were in combat mode? Cause that increases the blocking further, untill engage is used and you get the 90% chance to block. He didn't kill you did he?

No, he escaped. Maybe nerf stealth now?

Does it mean all the features/abilities/bugs, you name them, are balanced? If you have never ever seen a change in this game I'd like to know, for future reference to your posts.

It means that there are many things in the game that some people may consider "unfair".

 

[old.Icebreaker]

Originally posted by Tranquil-
FYI guard blocks from any direction so that's bullshit. And I have guard myself and I know how it works, how well and when you listen wouldn't change one bit and I couldn't care less if you listen or not. You are the one that's biased; usedtobe caster and now shieldtank. That's about as dipped in as you can get.

Thats bullshit. Guard doesn't block from any direction. Only in my Dreams.

What i have discorvered is that in some Dungeons like Galladoria Guard got a different effect. Was fighting a big mob with guard on someone. Then one i guarded was on the other side of the mob and i still blocked for him. Think that is a bug.

In non Dungeons i have to face the Enemy for guard effect. Arrows or melee doesn't matter. Otherwise it would be abit overpowered don't you think?

And i know what iam babbeling here because iam Sword/Shield Hero since Beta.

It's the stone, paper, cutter principe. Guard is very good against Arrows, 2 hander and very weak against dual wield, spells.

Ok?

OK!

 

[necrofill]

Originally posted by old.Icebreaker
Thats bullshit. Guard doesn't block from any direction. Only in my Dreams.

What i have discorvered is that in some Dungeons like Galladoria Guard got a different effect. Was fighting a big mob with guard on someone. Then one i guarded was on the other side of the mob and i still blocked for him. Think that is a bug.

could be a bug, but who cares it r PvE?

Originally posted by old.Icebreaker
In non Dungeons i have to face the Enemy for guard effect. Arrows or melee doesn't matter. Otherwise it would be abit overpowered don't you think?

And i know what iam babbeling here because iam Sword/Shield Hero since Beta.

All others say that u dont need, so why should it be diffrent for u?

is there any1 there have tested it?

Originally posted by old.Icebreaker
It's the stone, paper, cutter principe. Guard is very good against Arrows, 2 hander and very weak against dual wield, spells.

Ok?

OK!

Perfect words for this discusion(sp?)
hope some of them there whine over it can learn sometihng from that

 

[Tranquil-]

Originally posted by ab_fluid
ok, u post meanings, i contradict u and i am whinging, nice logic u got

Perhaps my reply was poorly worded and didn't describe my meaning well, sorry. What I was aiming at was the "live with it" comment.

Why should I live with issues I feel need attention? If they are as intended they will be left alone. But if it just happens that the ability in some situations have an undesirable(by Mythic's point of view) effect on gameplay, then I can't see the problem with bringing attention to it, nor reflecting my view of it here.

Originally posted by Mavl Did you _Ever_ run in group and serve as a main guard for your support chars ?

Actually, yes, once or twice


Anyway, so the conclusion is that in certain situations guard(the entire shield system imo, e.g. blocking DW with a small shield, blocking when back is facing attacker etc.) is bugged then, it's not functioning as "intended", whatever that may be. I rest my case.

 

[deadkid]

Originally posted by Mavl


TT shield size doesnt affect your chance to block ...

addtional 5% to block chance for small shield, 10% for medium and 15% for large afaik

 

[old.Icebreaker]

Originally posted by necrofill
All others say that u dont need, so why should it be diffrent for u?

is there any1 there have tested it?

All others don't know what they are talking here

Just test it. Let an Ranger/Scout/Hunter/Melee whatever shoot/hit the target you guard. If you don't face him your guard won't work. And like i said i think it is bugged in Dungeons. There you don't have to face the Enemy most of the time. Don't ask me why.

 

[old.Icebreaker]

Oh and iam not sure about this Dungeon thing. I can just talk for PvE because i don't RvR much in Dungeons. Maybe someone want to test it.