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i fink u mean 'Grats NP/JH'.
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Wot-do
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and the reason was np and pandora didnt play and jh got mostly zerged. while we farmed albs and crap mid grps.
Originally posted by Rollie
I still think you can optimise groups today tbh, as shown last week or week before hibs can still compete as they pretty much covered the top20 weekly rp
and the reason was np and pandora didnt play and jh got mostly zerged. while we farmed albs and crap mid grps.
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old.Tzeentch
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Does everyone know?
Really?
Have you seen the posts/threads here, and on VN, by mids, actually doing what I just described?
Like I said, it would be stupid to whine on your own overpoweredness, but to lie and deny the fact, is something else.
And actually, there was more involved back then than the simple matter of end regen, although end regen is a major factor.
1.52 => 1.54 was the good times for hib.
I rolled my character 1.48 or so, simply so I speed around if I wanted to go somewhere or talk to someone.. hardly fotm.
As above - midgard full well had the means to cope with hibernia back then, they just didnt have the organisation? or whatever, to do so. Nolby was relatively absent back then, couldn't tell you if they would have fared better.
Bard isn't hard to spot, instant ae stun and nuked down (bearing in mind no uber resists and RAs) in seconds isn't something hard to do in those conditions, but I can count on my one hand how many times that happened.
Does everyone know?
Really?
Have you seen the posts/threads here, and on VN, by mids, actually doing what I just described?
Like I said, it would be stupid to whine on your own overpoweredness, but to lie and deny the fact, is something else.
And actually, there was more involved back then than the simple matter of end regen, although end regen is a major factor.
1.52 => 1.54 was the good times for hib.
I rolled my character 1.48 or so, simply so I speed around if I wanted to go somewhere or talk to someone.. hardly fotm.
As above - midgard full well had the means to cope with hibernia back then, they just didnt have the organisation? or whatever, to do so. Nolby was relatively absent back then, couldn't tell you if they would have fared better.
Bard isn't hard to spot, instant ae stun and nuked down (bearing in mind no uber resists and RAs) in seconds isn't something hard to do in those conditions, but I can count on my one hand how many times that happened.
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This is basically what some of the NP guys are saying to you regarding your hib group setups, yet you dismiss it completely everytime, at the time LA ruled hibs were the most powerful realm, this was reproduced on most servers post 1.51 till end regen/deter in middy, with hibby dominating the weekly rp gained on most servers as well including excel.
Edit: My point being all these whines from hibs about middy gratz threads when it happened when you was the most powerful realm, you took advantage and rightly so, just like anyone would, but whining about something you did also is kinda silly imho.
Saying middy could compete then but didnt due to x is like what the NP guys say to you now.
This is basically what some of the NP guys are saying to you regarding your hib group setups, yet you dismiss it completely everytime, at the time LA ruled hibs were the most powerful realm, this was reproduced on most servers post 1.51 till end regen/deter in middy, with hibby dominating the weekly rp gained on most servers as well including excel.
Edit: My point being all these whines from hibs about middy gratz threads when it happened when you was the most powerful realm, you took advantage and rightly so, just like anyone would, but whining about something you did also is kinda silly imho.
Saying middy could compete then but didnt due to x is like what the NP guys say to you now.
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Yep i see your point alot of ppl from alb/hib whining bout fotm setup, when they would be doing the same thing. and I think u are right alot of ppl whine on thing but would have been playing savage themself.
I missread u b4 when u wrote haste debuffs thought u meant savage haste buffs, i recon u meant healer attackspeed debuff interupting casters, u are right it will make a diffrence, u especially feel it when u run into a grp with good healers using it whenever they get a chanse, and its damn annoying
Yep i see your point alot of ppl from alb/hib whining bout fotm setup, when they would be doing the same thing. and I think u are right alot of ppl whine on thing but would have been playing savage themself.
I missread u b4 when u wrote haste debuffs thought u meant savage haste buffs, i recon u meant healer attackspeed debuff interupting casters, u are right it will make a diffrence, u especially feel it when u run into a grp with good healers using it whenever they get a chanse, and its damn annoying
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well, since those days mid didnt get anything new (end regen, pbae etc came in 1.52 or smth like this)
zerks always were on top
maybe indeed it is skill nowadays? ^^
well, since those days mid didnt get anything new (end regen, pbae etc came in 1.52 or smth like this)
zerks always were on top
maybe indeed it is skill nowadays? ^^
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Rollie
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Yes ASD, losing that will factor as much as anything else imho.
Originally posted by Wot-do
I missread u b4 when u wrote haste debuffs thought u meant savage haste buffs, i recon u meant healer attackspeed debuff interupting casters, u are right it will make a diffrence, u especially feel it when u run into a grp with good healers using it whenever they get a chanse, and its damn annoying
Yes ASD, losing that will factor as much as anything else imho.
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yes but u must agree the situation, is abit unfair nowadays
yes but u must agree the situation, is abit unfair nowadays
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damn shame we lost u on excal...Originally posted by zmurf
Mid apparently got 95% of the most skilled ppl on entire excalibur server ... and now they got the ability to proove it
would have taken top spot with ur skills
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old.anubis
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yes
given good people and good group setup midgard is on top for sure
but bad people cant win even with best group setup
it's a combination of both
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given good people and good group setup midgard is on top for sure
but bad people cant win even with best group setup
it's a combination of both
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first of all, very few of the mids on barrys play on US. I have posted on VN-boards several times that mid is overpowered, i think you should go there and whine instead. And where is all the mids saying that they arent overpowered? The only thing they say is that every savage group doesnt wtfpwn everything, and that is true. Without JH/NP groups i dont think the situation whould be as bad as it is, i cant say for sure but it seems to be both JH and NP abuse asd alot more than other grps. I dont think 1.63 will make a world of difference, but 1.65 might bring 4 bm 3 dr00d 1 bard grp on par with savage groups.
I know for a fact that all your whine on BW wont change anything within daoc, it is completely meaningless except for the entertainment it provides.
I know for a fact that all your whine on BW wont change anything within daoc, it is completely meaningless except for the entertainment it provides.
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pretty easy to explain why hib sometimes manage to dominate top20.
LA, VGN etc osv plays pretty much every time.
NP and JH has thier active and inactive periods.
BF have disappeared, FC plays and Outlaw zergs.
so, when NP and JH is inactive it's quite natural that hibs will dominate top20. but if you look how many rps it is on last week when hibs dominate and when mid dominate you see that the mids harvest ALOT more RPs.
Originally posted by Rollie
I still think you can optimise groups today tbh, as shown last week or week before hibs can still compete as they pretty much covered the top20 weekly rp
pretty easy to explain why hib sometimes manage to dominate top20.
LA, VGN etc osv plays pretty much every time.
NP and JH has thier active and inactive periods.
BF have disappeared, FC plays and Outlaw zergs.
so, when NP and JH is inactive it's quite natural that hibs will dominate top20. but if you look how many rps it is on last week when hibs dominate and when mid dominate you see that the mids harvest ALOT more RPs.
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old.Tzeentch
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Let me make it clear, as clear as Xana said.
It is impossible, for a perfect.. tank grp, mage grp, mixed grp, even if they were all rr10.. to win, against nolby pride.
No one in nolby that plays excal I think is seriously gonna suggest otherwise.
Sure, if we are gonna be technical, there is always the 0.05% chance, which isnt then impossible, but the point remains.
Tbh, Hibs had relatively bad organisation back then, as far as group work goes, and they still do today. <I guess someone will come along and say to me soon: 'hey i am in xxx guild and we work together good, stfu n00b!' - but do they really work as well as nolby for example?>
If you had the same level of organisation, as in, if nolby were playing then, then yes, I think they'd stand a good chance of winning against the LA group of yesteryear.
Point: I play my bard cus I enjoy it, even now, which is why I don't 'whine' in a fashion you are trying to suggest. I'm certainly not uber now, I still play, but I point out the overpowered nature of several group setups and classes. If you were to suggest to me Hibs were the most powerful realm back then, I would agree. Saying I 'took advantage' of the strength of hib back then isn't really appropiate, since I play because I enjoy my class, and still do. Difference is so many people in midgard re-rolled to BE overpowered. I'm syaing to you: don't lie about the overpowered nature of it all. Admit it, and I'm happy.. but dont make a mockery by suggesting you are not.
Let me make it clear, as clear as Xana said.
It is impossible, for a perfect.. tank grp, mage grp, mixed grp, even if they were all rr10.. to win, against nolby pride.
No one in nolby that plays excal I think is seriously gonna suggest otherwise.
Sure, if we are gonna be technical, there is always the 0.05% chance, which isnt then impossible, but the point remains.
Tbh, Hibs had relatively bad organisation back then, as far as group work goes, and they still do today. <I guess someone will come along and say to me soon: 'hey i am in xxx guild and we work together good, stfu n00b!' - but do they really work as well as nolby for example?>
If you had the same level of organisation, as in, if nolby were playing then, then yes, I think they'd stand a good chance of winning against the LA group of yesteryear.
Point: I play my bard cus I enjoy it, even now, which is why I don't 'whine' in a fashion you are trying to suggest. I'm certainly not uber now, I still play, but I point out the overpowered nature of several group setups and classes. If you were to suggest to me Hibs were the most powerful realm back then, I would agree. Saying I 'took advantage' of the strength of hib back then isn't really appropiate, since I play because I enjoy my class, and still do. Difference is so many people in midgard re-rolled to BE overpowered. I'm syaing to you: don't lie about the overpowered nature of it all. Admit it, and I'm happy.. but dont make a mockery by suggesting you are not.
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Most of your post we have already covered in the posts above and on the previous page, but this comment im not sure exactly who your aiming it at, me or the people who rerolled savages AFTER they realized they were overpowered(since some ppl rolled them for fun previously).
If its directed at me, please search through posts i have made posts in and look and you will see i openly state middy is in the best position atm and that savages are overpowered, otherwise nm
Most of your post we have already covered in the posts above and on the previous page, but this comment im not sure exactly who your aiming it at, me or the people who rerolled savages AFTER they realized they were overpowered(since some ppl rolled them for fun previously).
If its directed at me, please search through posts i have made posts in and look and you will see i openly state middy is in the best position atm and that savages are overpowered, otherwise nm
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Make of it what you want.
Make of it what you want.
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ALB in general is just whining cuz MID has been owning emain this week, call it counterzerging.
Organised zergs. well atleast attempted organising.
It has actually been possible to camp AMG with a shadowblade for a change mowhha
Organised zergs. well atleast attempted organising.
It has actually been possible to camp AMG with a shadowblade for a change mowhha
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old.Tzeentch
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Yes, we've never thought of that, never mind done that. :great:
Now go back and ask Xana if he thinks it will take him one run or two, before they figure a method to shut that group down by simply changing their MA and their interrupt target.
Yes, we've never thought of that, never mind done that. :great:
Now go back and ask Xana if he thinks it will take him one run or two, before they figure a method to shut that group down by simply changing their MA and their interrupt target.
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And as already said in a dozen other threads, only a few weeks ago Hibs dominated the lwrp. Stats like this mean nothing as there are too many variables.
To borrow a phrase from futurama
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Originally posted by Kallio
Actually hib tank group with 3 druids, Bard and 4 Heros/BMs is very lethal. I remember that we died to them in a JH group, twice.
But it sucks that tanks, and only tanks dominate the game now
stop spreading lies
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I meant it as a reply to the "no NP member whould say hibs can win more than .5% of the time". I've seen both groups, and both perform better than most of the other hib groups. Pbae isnt very hard to handle, but a 4 BM grp will prolly win some in 1.63, atleast maybe close the gap abit .
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old.Lethul
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who is this Midguard anyway?
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who are you?
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you got savage with SI, dat is new
you got savage with SI, dat is new
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Re: Re: Re: Grats midguard xD
???
Say I wanna play mincer, hm, what shall I do? start to level a necro and a cleric on Prydwen and then, after a couple of days playtime, when I reach 50 start over and begin to powerlevel a mincer on a third account, and then, after 5 days playtime I would have my mincer in 50, a bb in 50 and a farm-machine in 50.
Ok, lets break it down, 5 days = 120 hours of worthless xping.
Or buy me a mincer with good equipment and a bb for 500$?
So, work for 4 dollars/hour(a bum that collect bottles prolly gets more) or work with normal income, what would you prefer?
Originally posted by Wot-do
doubt he bought his char on ebay, prolly traded it or smth
cuz buying an account for irl money are stupid.
???
Say I wanna play mincer, hm, what shall I do? start to level a necro and a cleric on Prydwen and then, after a couple of days playtime, when I reach 50 start over and begin to powerlevel a mincer on a third account, and then, after 5 days playtime I would have my mincer in 50, a bb in 50 and a farm-machine in 50.
Ok, lets break it down, 5 days = 120 hours of worthless xping.
Or buy me a mincer with good equipment and a bb for 500$?
So, work for 4 dollars/hour(a bum that collect bottles prolly gets more) or work with normal income, what would you prefer?
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old.anubis
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they just substituted zerks
Originally posted by Dorin
you got savage with SI, dat is new
they just substituted zerks
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Wot-do
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Get friends to power lvl u :] get another acc and lvl, or try to swap with someone, nah I guess u are right if u have a fulltime work its better doing like u said.
Get friends to power lvl u :] get another acc and lvl, or try to swap with someone, nah I guess u are right if u have a fulltime work its better doing like u said.
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Re: Re: Grats midguard xD
he is playing Maril. own char afaik.
Originally posted by Rollie
why dont you buy a spelling book from ebay as well, its midgard
he is playing Maril. own char afaik.