Grapple = Absolute BS

[rvn]

Let spells interrupt melee then we can remove grapple.

k so melee's should get 1500 range too?

they allready downed- interrupt from aoe spells etc too so

 

[Zvixx]

VW + Grapple = i win

Grapple, nuke nuke nuke nuke nuke nuke. effect wears off? WELL LETS JUST CHAIN AGAIN! nuke nuke nuke nuke nuke nuke.

Maybe it is more classes that can do like this. i dont know, but it pisses me off.

Grapple must be the most FUCKING bullshit ability mythic ever came up with. all randoms noobs can use it, u cant purge and u cant attack. BUT u can cast spells... Where is the logic.

i totaly have to agree with you it pissed me off a few times to coz i was fighting this hunter and suddenly he just didnt wonna die so he did grapple on me till a fg came

 

[Sheph]

k so melee's should get 1500 range too?

they allready downed- interrupt from aoe spells etc too so

No.

 

[emma]

i totaly have to agree with you it pissed me off a few times to coz i was fighting this hunter and suddenly he just didnt wonna die so he did grapple on me till a fg came

hunters dont get the battlemaster line for grapple.

 

[Asty]

should just delete the whole ability.. its so fucking stupid anyway.

 

[Puppet]

You forgot about savas there... Still Zzang have gained more rps after nerf. Don't think its the albs he whines on. Its the gapple and all realms have it just that it sux because it destroys the solo rvr because you can't do anything about it if you get grappled and stop with old fotm whines plz... if not we can allways bring up that hibs had end and pbae..... and albs had stealther with speed, mezz stun (oh they still have) and and and..........

PS.
Like it would matter pre nerf or now. Zzang probably still split you in the ½ in 2hits. So better stay out of Zzangs melee range or better go in melee range so you can get split in ½ so you can stop bring up old shit like that.
Ds.

LOL, relax big fella... I was only poiting out pre-LA nerf there was no serious way of countering Zerks really. We've all seen the screenshots from Soruzi, Zzang etc etc. where zerks did easily 800+ dmg on RR5+ paladins, 900+ dmg on RR7 druids. Sure there was some defense; but when I played against NP it was quite awhile ago without SC and stuff. I played caster with good gear, good resists, good AF and drops from Legion and the like and my caster has been one-shotted (while buffed).

You and me both know zerks (Left Axe) was way overpowered. Zzang sticked to playing zerk, respect for that. Grapple is probably bollocks, true. Call it bitter but at times it feels damn good to see the previously overpowered classs being grappled. Suddenly they cant do anything for a while; like I couldnt do anything when I got hit for insane numbers

And about Zzang still 2-shotting me, well most likely he would. My theurg and friar are ML0 and not been played seriously for a long while. I doubt my theurgist even has spellcrafted gear with all the new SI-goodies :O

Would love to see Zzang 2-shot my druid tho

 

[Puppet]

k so melee's should get 1500 range too?

You got throw weapon !!!!!!!!111

 

[Xaldrick]

As a reply to the original thread, why dont you just insta mezz/root/stun/disease/snare/[insert other way of disabling/interrupting) him ?
Valewalkers are hybrids and do not have access to CC immunity

 

[raid]

Granted zerkers used to be overpowered but I also played a lot vs pre nerf zerkers on prydwen and it was much more fun than being chaingrappled without being able to do anything

 

[vintervargen]

someone make tank-grapple-animist-shroom grp wif me pliiz

 

[rvn]

No.

k well thats the thing, meleers dont get interrupted because they have to be in melee range, and pull of styles etc, where as a caster has 1500 range with their nukes, and usually have alot more dps overtime (alltho resists etc are a bit lame )

if you added interrupts to melee, there would be no point at all to be a meleer. senario would follow:

start 1000 - 1500 range, start getting interruptd by nukes from caster.
you finally reach him, you cant attack cause you are still interrupted.
after a few seconds you die, cause most casters can kill a tank if they assist if they start nukeing the tank from 1500 range.

pre toa, tanks had ALOT of advantages over casters, after toa i think its quite even, with casters haveing extremely low cast time.

so i ask you, what would a tank bring to a group, if they got interrupted, and faced pbt etc? (chance to hit something would be like 10%)

 

[rvn]

LOL, relax big fella... I was only poiting out pre-LA nerf there was no serious way of countering Zerks really. We've all seen the screenshots from Soruzi, Zzang etc etc. where zerks did easily 800+ dmg on RR5+ paladins, 900+ dmg on RR7 druids. Sure there was some defense; but when I played against NP it was quite awhile ago without SC and stuff. I played caster with good gear, good resists, good AF and drops from Legion and the like and my caster has been one-shotted (while buffed).

You and me both know zerks (Left Axe) was way overpowered. Zzang sticked to playing zerk, respect for that. Grapple is probably bollocks, true. Call it bitter but at times it feels damn good to see the previously overpowered classs being grappled. Suddenly they cant do anything for a while; like I couldnt do anything when I got hit for insane numbers

And about Zzang still 2-shotting me, well most likely he would. My theurg and friar are ML0 and not been played seriously for a long while. I doubt my theurgist even has spellcrafted gear with all the new SI-goodies :O

Would love to see Zzang 2-shot my druid tho

druid with 2k hps, would be possible to 2shot after nerf, especially now with toa where zerkers use 4.1/4.1 spd weap. (this is w/o going frontload)

 

[rvn]

As a reply to the original thread, why dont you just insta mezz/root/stun/disease/snare/[insert other way of disabling/interrupting) him ?
Valewalkers are hybrids and do not have access to CC immunity

oh so now berserkers get insta mezz/root/stun/disease/snare. Didnt know that - he was soloing, and got killed w/o being able to do a thing like a greycon would fight a purplecon or something

 

[Aussie]

Granted zerkers used to be overpowered but I also played a lot vs pre nerf zerkers on prydwen and it was much more fun than being chaingrappled without being able to do anything

ye , it was so fun to get chased by rats that never fell out of end and hitted for 400 with every style , able to 2shot rr11 Heros and that combined with a bugged pf

 

[rvn]

why dont we bring up the old chain-mezzing whine that skalds could do or the chain aoe stunning or something new for a change instead of all the vendo-zerk high dmg whine

 

[Aybabtu]

why dont we bring up the old chain-mezzing whine that skalds could do or the chain aoe stunning or something new for a change instead of all the vendo-zerk high dmg whine

Indeed people should stop living in the past and use the same old excusions over and over again...imo

 

[Xaldrick]

oh so now berserkers get insta mezz/root/stun/disease/snare. Didnt know that - he was soloing, and got killed w/o being able to do a thing like a greycon would fight a purplecon or something

I was reffering to groupbased fights since solo is pointless - especially if you cant stealth. Sooner or later either you or your opponunt (should you have the extreme luck to find one) will be zerged, its _bound_ to happen.
If you're crying over imbalance between individul classes in duels then keep in mind that this game is a MMORPG. It should be balanced around group fights - be it 8v8 or XXXvXXX, not 1v1.

 

[Cuteypie]

i like to solo rvr

 

[Lethul]

i like to solo rvr

soon you will feel the force of the solo theurg, it wont be pretty

 

[rvn]

soon you will feel the force of the solo theurg, it wont be pretty

mmm bring those rps lethul

 

[ilaya]

zzang.. whine a bit more plz.. so u got owned by a Vw.. oh the horror of it all..

is grapple a VW only ability? no.. is it gonna be fixed faster than anything mids had over other realms? yes..

whats your problem? cant take being beaten in a fight?
hib are used to it.. so for gods sake DO NOT expect sympathy from us.

did you make same kinda post saying that u thought that maybes LA was too strong?

nerf Vw's? that what u saying?

idiot.. i'm gonna kill u a hundred times this year with a champ.. start making excuses now...

 

[poky]

zzang.. whine a bit more plz.. so u got owned by a Vw.. oh the horror of it all..

is grapple a VW only ability? no.. is it gonna be fixed faster than anything mids had over other realms? yes..

whats your problem? cant take being beaten in a fight?
hib are used to it.. so for gods sake DO NOT expect sympathy from us.

did you make same kinda post saying that u thought that maybes LA was too strong?

nerf Vw's? that what u saying?

idiot.. i'm gonna kill u a hundred times this year with a champ.. start making excuses now...

raaaaaaaaaaaaage!!

 

[rvn]

zzang.. whine a bit more plz.. so u got owned by a Vw.. oh the horror of it all..

whats your problem? cant take being beaten in a fight?

nerf Vw's? that what u saying?

idiot.. i'm gonna kill u a hundred times this year with a champ.. start making excuses now...

#1. he didnt get "owned" by a vw, he got owned by grapple.
#2. it isnt a fight if he cant do anything, thats like you have a street fight where you have 15ppl holding one guy, where he gets beaten up by the other who is "owning" him.
#3. he said fix grapple read the post monkey boy.
#4. i doubt it, but keep running to emain so we can get the rps for you.

 

[rvn]

hib are used to it.. so for gods sake DO NOT expect sympathy from us.

yes we all know most of you hibbs whine like bitches, and that ever since release when you lost godmode with end regen and all other juicy stuff, most of you have been bitching.

 

[Dorin]

I was reffering to groupbased fights since solo is pointless - especially if you cant stealth. Sooner or later either you or your opponunt (should you have the extreme luck to find one) will be zerged, its _bound_ to happen.
If you're crying over imbalance between individul classes in duels then keep in mind that this game is a MMORPG. It should be balanced around group fights - be it 8v8 or XXXvXXX, not 1v1.

i liked being zerged more then being grappled... i can go afk and ask my little bro to tap the release macro while at it.

 

[Xaldrick]

so?

 

[Xaldrick]

#1. he didnt get "owned" by a vw, he got owned by grapple..

No, he got "owned" by a vw _with_ grapple

#2. it isnt a fight if he cant do anything, thats like you have a street fight where you have 15ppl holding one guy, where he gets beaten up by the other who is "owning" him.

By that means, fighting mids isnt a fight either

#3. he said fix grapple read the post monkey boy.

Lies, he was complaining about it but he never mentioned that it should be fixed, so go read the post again monkey boy

#4. i doubt it, but keep running to emain so we can get the rps for you.

He can chain grapple and insta dd every 15 sec, so yes he'll own you since 1on1 fights is all what rvr is, remember?

 

[Fedaykin]

i heard the U.S troops in Iraq are using grapple

 

[Iorlas]

#2. it isnt a fight if he cant do anything, thats like you have a street fight where you have 15ppl holding one guy, where he gets beaten up by the other who is "owning" him.
so when i am slammed mezzed rooted and i can't do anything that is ok yes?? But because zzang can't do anything it's not fair....Dork.

 

[rvn]

i doubt you will get slammed,rooted and mezzed by a zerker in 1on1 iorlas, personally i dont give shit about 1on1 fights, but lots of people like it, and stupid abilitys like grapple destroy soloing, its a very lame ability overall.

By that means, fighting mids isnt a fight either

if you think that alb/hibb is so weak you should really train more, or perhaps go play something even easier than daoc.


no point to even discuss with rp cows like you