Goddamit Starquake! - I'll get you soon..... :>

eggy

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Great, one less lamer running around!

Radar users, let this be a lesson.
 

Methos

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Flimgoblin said:
pretty sure it's a permanent ban other than that one incident - Methos can you confirm?

Very disappointed in starquake :(

Well i'll post some bits of what he posted on guildforum, trying to stay within what's allowed here. I'm sure Starquake himself doesn't mind being quoted here either.

Starquake said:
I take full responsibility for my actions and had no intention of bringing TM into disrepute, but was largely motivated by the ganking we was getting from radar using XXXXXXX. I can also tell you that a lot of them are, it's very obvious when you use it to spot the others using it. Ban all users of it.

No two week ban afaik, if it was, I doubt I'd be back anyway.

Starquake said:
Not sure how people get caught / get away with it, but they knew the dates I started so it must log something somewhere. Whisked off to Castle Excalibur for a telling off I was. Should have screen shotted it lol.

Starquake said:
I don't recommend you use it though

I left out certain bits of info, but what i do know now is that goa can detect even the best radar prog 'out there', so that restored my confidence. Without sounding like a schoolteacher: I do hope this demotivates others from using it.


(Flim edit: removed broken smilie :))
 

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Any windows programme can get a list of process running on a machine, it's no surprise they can detect radar programmes.
 

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Mirt said:
Any windows programme can get a list of process running on a machine, it's no surprise they can detect radar programmes.

Not on remote machines.

And you wouldnt want daoc to be classified as spyware would you? ;)
 

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Even tho Starquake is one of my guildies ... I'm Damn Glad he got a perm ban!

No place in this game for cheats (and certainly no place in The Ministry for them)

Think if finally gaining my Faith in GOA :clap: :clap:
 

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Great he got permabanned - depressing there are so many others out there still using it who haven't been. Atleast it's a start :cheers:
 

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First time I've ever seen a "j00 pwn" thread turn into a wake thread.

That shit just aint funny tbfh.

No feckin way did anyone running reg with him NOT know he was abusing radar. And gay shit from Ministry bringing something from their private forum to FH to get it out quick and not attract awkward questions :eek6:

I'd have prefered to see him dissapear from DAoC quietly than watch a mofo get stabbed in the back by his mate. Wankers all tbh.

B.
 

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sq tended to solo 99% of the time m8.

You can infer nothing from this other than the fact that sq used radar.

your rantings there are way out of line. The guild in question have conducted themselves in a manner worthy only of respect over this matter.
 

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begach said:
First time I've ever seen a "j00 pwn" thread turn into a wake thread.

That shit just aint funny tbfh.

No feckin way did anyone running reg with him NOT know he was abusing radar. And gay shit from Ministry bringing something from their private forum to FH to get it out quick and not attract awkward questions :eek6:

I'd have prefered to see him dissapear from DAoC quietly than watch a mofo get stabbed in the back by his mate. Wankers all tbh.

B.

your a complete prick tbh .... read the thread again then go look at duskwave and see that we havent rvr'd as a guild for approx a month now !!

he used radar he got perm banned ... even tho i liked the guy ... good job i reck

btw who are you again ?
 

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Babazoo said:
your a complete prick tbh .... read the thread again then go look at duskwave and see that we havent rvr'd as a guild for approx a month now !!

he used radar he got perm banned ... even tho i liked the guy ... good job i reck

btw who are you again ?

Does it matter?....I have an opinion like any other........and my opinion is that given the same situation i'd not have been so hasty to fuck over a mate. The guild forum to FH transfer was some gay shit, especially in this thread.

Btw....who are you? I never heard of you either....i never heard of Ministry either (why would I.....yer players (removing starquake and tenderfoot) are recreational level RR's.....much like the guild i'm in who noone ever heard of either)...but I have heard of starquake (ie your guild #1 until recently) an i was RR5+ when he was still struggling out of RR1..........make you feel better? :)

Btw i didn't SAY his guildies knew he was using radar....what i said is the ppl he plays with regular knew. If you aint it then it aint you :p

B.
 

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Really who cares dudes, cheater gets caught, cheater gets banned, everybody rejoice, drink and be merry and for all the smokers ....skin up ffs :D
 

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tierk said:
Really who cares dudes, cheater gets caught, cheater gets banned, everybody rejoice, drink and be merry and for all the smokers ....skin up ffs :D

's fair comment :cheers:

B.
 

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he soloed... so you're saying his brittle guards and his buffbot knew ;)
 

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begach said:
First time I've ever seen a "j00 pwn" thread turn into a wake thread.

That shit just aint funny tbfh.

No feckin way did anyone running reg with him NOT know he was abusing radar. And gay shit from Ministry bringing something from their private forum to FH to get it out quick and not attract awkward questions :eek6:

I'd have prefered to see him dissapear from DAoC quietly than watch a mofo get stabbed in the back by his mate. Wankers all tbh.

B.

If you don't understand my actions now you'll never get it, but alright...

Lets ponder a moment over the 'stabbing in the back' argument you so eloquently bring. I'll make it easy on your challenged brain and make it multiple choice:

Question: Who's the backstabber?

A: The very good player cheating (while knowing the guild's views on cheating), getting his ass banned and bringing his guild in an undesirable situation, leaving the guild without their high RR fixed group sorcerer.

B: The combined GM's of the guild being open to the community about a cheater in their guild getting caught.

Furthermore if you had bothered to actually read instead of jumping to conclusions and assuming things you might have picked up the fact he 'only' started radaring a week or 2 ago, while he was soloing 90% of the time.

And about your preference about seeing this 'quietly' go away: I can understand you would want to keep all your potential cheating realmmates a secret to the community, but that's not how we do things. Starquake knew upfront what he was risking, and he has seen it as a blessing is disguise. He hasn't hidden his actions and hasn't requested us to keep this private.

PS: Next time try getting a clue before posting crap that shows nothing but very poor education and a sense of morale that matches it. If that's too great of a challenge for you get one of your m8s to make a post for you.
 

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Methos said:
And about your preference about seeing this 'quietly' go away: I can understand you would want to keep all your potential cheating realmmates a secret to the community, but that's not how we do things. Starquake knew upfront what he was risking, and he has seen it as a blessing is disguise. He hasn't hidden his actions and hasn't requested us to keep this private.

Well see, I don't want to defend cheaters in any way, but in our society and in our rulecodes is a thing called privacy. This means, that at no given time a person will be exponated to the public, nor anything that person has done. Now we can argue hours about this, but Begach has a point there.

Apart from this I'm also glad that cheaters get banned =)
 

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begach said:
Does it matter?....I have an opinion like any other........and my opinion is that given the same situation i'd not have been so hasty to fuck over a mate. The guild forum to FH transfer was some gay shit, especially in this thread.

Your opinion wasn't asked for. Also you should see a therapist regarding those issues you have with the homosexual community.

begach said:
Btw....who are you? I never heard of you either....i never heard of Ministry either

Take your head out of your ass and scoop the shit from your ears, maybe then you'll hear better.

begach said:
but I have heard of starquake (ie your guild #1 until recently) an i was RR5+ when he was still struggling out of RR1..........make you feel better? :)

You wanna take it to this level? fine. You're 6L1 now, so in the time it took you to get from 5 to 6L1 he went from 1 to 8L8. Yes that makes me feel better indeed, thanks.



begach said:
Btw i didn't SAY his guildies knew he was using radar....what i said is the ppl he plays with regular knew. If you aint it then it aint you :p
B.

Bullshit, the entire context of that post was aimed at TM as a guild, don't try to worm your way out of it.
 

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liloe said:
Well see, I don't want to defend cheaters in any way, but in our society and in our rulecodes is a thing called privacy. This means, that at no given time a person will be exponated to the public, nor anything that person has done. Now we can argue hours about this, but Begach has a point there.

Apart from this I'm also glad that cheaters get banned =)

Starquake forfeited his privacy in this matter the moment he logged on with radar.

He knew it, he's fine with it.

If you burn your ass you have to sit on the blisters.
 

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Methos said:
You wanna take it to this level? fine. You're 6L1 now, so in the time it took you to get from 5 to 6L1 he went from 1 to 8L8. Yes that makes me feel better indeed, thanks.

I also have to admit that the difference between solo bard and solo sorc is very light.

And now chill guys =)) No use hacking at each other :fluffle:
 

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As usual Methos you worded it better than me !!

I wont say another word on the subject now ... im pissed off enough as it is :(
 

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Well this all explains why after a few weeks abscence, warders seemed to have gained the ability to kite me onto starquake...

Starquake always was rather a challenge to fight as a vw (most of the times I met him, he had *everything* up) - shame he got himself banned although it sounds like it was richly deserved.

I wonder how many other prominant player will vanish, naming no names but there's a couple of others GoA ought to investigate...
 

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Methos said:
If you don't understand my actions now you'll never get it, but alright...

Lets ponder a moment over the 'stabbing in the back' argument you so eloquently bring. I'll make it easy on your challenged brain and make it multiple choice:

Question: Who's the backstabber?

A: The very good player cheating (while knowing the guild's views on cheating), getting his ass banned and bringing his guild in an undesirable situation, leaving the guild without their high RR fixed group sorcerer.

B: The combined GM's of the guild being open to the community about a cheater in their guild getting caught.

Furthermore if you had bothered to actually read instead of jumping to conclusions and assuming things you might have picked up the fact he 'only' started radaring a week or 2 ago, while he was soloing 90% of the time.

And about your preference about seeing this 'quietly' go away: I can understand you would want to keep all your potential cheating realmmates a secret to the community, but that's not how we do things. Starquake knew upfront what he was risking, and he has seen it as a blessing is disguise. He hasn't hidden his actions and hasn't requested us to keep this private.

PS: Next time try getting a clue before posting crap that shows nothing but very poor education and a sense of morale that matches it. If that's too great of a challenge for you get one of your m8s to make a post for you.


My post was rash (as usual the subtle one) but why have "if radar gets mentioned once yer banned from FH" rules if not to protect the individual? He got banned for his fuckup and now he is being flamed too. Seems a mod is even joining in the fun (a new thread no less). Shame an flame sounds like alot of fun but not from one of your own guildies and in any other case a bannable offense from FH. No need to make it public is all i'm saying. If your guild is as well respected as you and many others seems to think and the deed was done on his perma ban it would have cost you nothing. I'm sure you mean well I'm just confused as to where that is directed. If his words where "Take this information straight to FH and tell the world so they can flame me" i'll stfu.

PS Only a moron would think this has ANYTHING to do with catching or getting cheaters banned. If i know a realm mate who is using/used radar i goto right now.......not FH. The guy came from rightnow to you an you came to FH.

I'm done.

B.
 

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begach said:
I'm sure you mean well I'm just confused as to where that is directed. If his words where "Take this information straight to FH and tell the world so they can flame me" i'll stfu.

Well this post sounds a lot more reasonable, so thats good.

It seems though you still don't quite know why this thread was made.

Starquake openly admitted on the guildforum that he had been caught for radaring... he even posted it here. The information would have gotten out, one way or another. My opinion is that it's best to be open and honest about this and get it over with.

Fingoniel said it might work as a good deterrent if a caught and banned cheater that openly admitted it and told his story on FH. Don't try to catch Fing on any wrongdoings, cos that won't get you anywhere.

begach said:
PS Only a moron would think this has ANYTHING to do with catching or getting cheaters banned. If i know a realm mate who is using/used radar i goto right now.......not FH. The guy came from rightnow to you an you came to FH.

No, he was scanned by GOA and caught, Rightnow didn't have much to do with it, unless someone suspected and reported him. Also i talked with the other GM's about how to handle this before i made any posting on FH.
 

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Mirt said:
Well this all explains why after a few weeks abscence, warders seemed to have gained the ability to kite me onto starquake...

Starquake always was rather a challenge to fight as a vw (most of the times I met him, he had *everything* up) - shame he got himself banned although it sounds like it was richly deserved.

I wonder how many other prominant player will vanish, naming no names but there's a couple of others GoA ought to investigate...

most of the prominant radar users left, with a "goodbye DAoC, im moving to WoW" post. I wonder how long it will be till a certain mid guild "leaves for WoW" (and no, im not talking about VP)
 

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