Goddamit Starquake! - I'll get you soon..... :>

Mirt

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>unless im mistaken he cant grapple and cast spells anymore.

Origionally grapple just rooted you. Then they made it stun you but stun was on immunity timer, then they stopped that - however I think CB charge still blocks the stun (I think I got it to work maybe twice since NF) so it should work for friars/rangers/wardens etc.

Of course it's not exactly easy for me to test as I hardly ever found any solo melee enemies (it was mostly FGs, Stealth duo/trio/zergs, and casters) and I don't really play daoc anymore*.

* Warlocks = redo SC again... I can't be arsed. Also nature's shield gets stealth nerfed (archers > *) which means no more solo on my vw - and tbh why would any good 8man team want a vw over a better class (bm)...
 

Dorin

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Rushie said:
wishing u kept urs now? :p

on a serious note tho, u know what it was like to be a sorc "back in the day" and survivablity was a big prob with the class, mythic tried to fix this and gave sorc some serious loving, as always i think they over-done it a tad but u cant blame a player for using the tools given to them.

true true, but keep in mind they did solve that problem by releasing toa: along came grapple, bodyguard + caster dps got a big boost also thanks to artis. Thanks to ToA, the era of tank days was over, people quickly rerolled their grappled toons whom didnt have access to the offensive ML line :E so i barely see the point in the sorc rr5 RA released for New Frontiers... as i have said in an other thread, this RA should have been released when svg-train 3-4 shoted paladins.

ml9 is just plain stupid on any char (my pet 4 shoted an infil, maybe the dude was unbuffed but still... and lasts 5min? should be like 1min max imo.)
I dont like stealthers, but with there are way too many options for a caster nowdays to neglect an attack from a stealther, the ml9 should be nerfed.

Oh yes, I did miss my sorc (svgs here or there, sorc > svg anytime, anywhere :p)after the day i have deleted :p but never missed albion, too bad its an alb class :[ along with theurg which is an excellent class also :p
 

roovah

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Dorin said:
true true, but keep in mind they did solve that problem by releasing toa: along came grapple, bodyguard + caster dps got a big boost also thanks to artis. Thanks to ToA, the era of tank days was over, people quickly rerolled their grappled toons whom didnt have access to the offensive ML line :E so i barely see the point in the sorc rr5 RA released for New Frontiers... as i have said in an other thread, this RA should have been released when svg-train 3-4 shoted paladins.

ml9 is just plain stupid on any char (my pet 4 shoted an infil, maybe the dude was unbuffed but still... and lasts 5min? should be like 1min max imo.)
I dont like stealthers, but with there are way too many options for a caster nowdays to neglect an attack from a stealther, the ml9 should be nerfed.

Oh yes, I did miss my sorc (svgs here or there, sorc > svg anytime, anywhere :p)after the day i have deleted :p but never missed albion, too bad its an alb class :[ along with theurg which is an excellent class also :p

ye realy suck it came in dark age of blalot
 

begach

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Rushie said:
wishing u kept urs now? :p

on a serious note tho, u know what it was like to be a sorc "back in the day" and survivablity was a big prob with the class, mythic tried to fix this and gave sorc some serious loving, as always i think they over-done it a tad but u cant blame a player for using the tools given to them.

I aint complaining tbh. Every class should have its day (apart from BD :rolleyes: ). An sorc was some sorry shit pre bolt range wub. Bad for any poor mofo playin one an worse for the group they where in. My digs aint at sorc class in general. Rather the "Dude i f00kin pwnzx0r!!!" FoTMer's who think they are uber atm. As i said above, thier day will be up when cata's hits ;)

B.
 

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Bah - frankly I'm starting to get pissed off now with casters and their pets :)

So far tonight the score is again 4-0 + to Starquake, and tbh it's just plain bullshit :> Every fight, I haven't even HIT Starquake as every fight I've either been fighting someone else - then I get the massive pet put on me, or I fight and lag a horrendous amount, come back and am dead, ozrique luri invader archer attacks me, I manage to AE mezz him with ML9 poison, I run up the hill, 2 secs later mezzed by Starquake, and nuked down in 2 secs.

And the last one is the best, I run near starquake, and hit his trap. Hit for 300+. I leg it down the hill, he's still quite far away, I stealth up and - surprise surprise - big bloody chicken pet unstealths me and instastuns me. Starquake strolls along and zap zap zap dead. I had SoM up, AE Mezz poison up, AF shield charge, and got to use none of it. I think purge was down.

Frankly it's just bullshit :>

Give stealthers a RR5 ability that absorbs 90% casting damage for 30 secs, or give us more RPs per kill as casters get 900+ RPs per kill in 2 secs, while it takes us bloody ages to get the same.
OR get rid of pets uncovering people when they are stealthed - as that is just SO frustrating.

And no I refuse to get vanish as I'd rather put the 5 points somewhere else - but it's starting to get to the stage where this is getting ridiculous.

Last week RPs - Sorcerers
1 Cansina 164,973 50 BattleMasterS Inconnu
2 Grymulv Wilk 150,830 50 The Nalbs Briton
3 Magon 133,695 50 Dragon Knights Avalonian
4 Drmezz 129,987 50 Bulle Reloaded Inconnu
5 Stalino 120,878 50 The Nalbs Inconnu
6 Ginggi 119,549 50 Guardians of Light Inconnu
7 Starquake BAST 105,886 50 The Ministry Avalonian

Last week RPs - Shadowblades
1 Grimster 81,213 50 Pain Norseman
2 Chaostar 75,932 50 Valravens Norseman
3 Zaberhut 59,781 50 Valravens Kobold
4 Endac WhyYouLittle 59,651 50 Pain Kobold
5 Majiii DefenderOfBrynja 58,552 50 La'sse Kongos Krigare Norseman
6 Paradoxx 57,962 50 Frenzy Kobold
7 Tjorn Turk 52,159 50 Atreides Norseman

Alb - Infs
1 Lxn Iloveu 129,612 50 Guardians of Light Saracen
2 Papasan 122,005 50 Black Falcons Briton
3 Kruella DeVille 109,299 50 Paragons of Albion Briton
4 Amistat WannabeMerc 66,968 50 Legion of Darkness Briton
5 Binfil 65,780 50 Knights 0f The Round Table Saracen
6 Blow 64,583 50 Coeur de Lion Saracen
7 Grimz 58,331 50 Guts & Glory Briton

Hibs - NS's
1 Cyclodia MasterShade 113,261 50 Amicitiae Renatus Lurikeen
2 Soledad 80,520 50 Post Mortem Elf
3 Eolica 65,671 50 Celtic Fist Elf
4 Sethi HeHeYouGotOwned 65,481 50 Sweet Dreams Lurikeen
5 Legenden 64,081 50 Celtic Fist Lurikeen
6 Gaymer GOAWAYNUUB 59,786 50 Amicitiae Renatus Lurikeen
7 Sukubo 49,745 50 Post Mortem Elf

Says it all really. Midgard and Hib Stealthers cannot compete.........
/rant off

Oli - Illu
 

illu

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PS This isn't meant to be a dig at Starquake, he obviously plays his char to "the full potential", and fair enough, but somewhere along the lines, the assassin was meant to be a caster's worst nightmare, you PA a caster and hit for 1100+, but now it's the other way around, you have to get past the most ridiculous amount of stuff just to hit the caster - then you get instanuked for 500+ every second, and a pet that instastuns you and chews on your arse hitting you for 300-700+ a second at the same time......

It's just wrong :)

Oli - Illu
 

sirius

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oi

nerf em :p, nahh anyway illu is right, what is the stealthers job anymore when bigger chance of succes attacking a tank prolly instead of caster.

He and yes starquake killed me :p and my thane m8, guess he mocced purged whatever cos a few sec later 2 thane's where dead, where else buffed 2 the teeth, a ip, decent rr etc etc
 

Kais

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starquake almost died to me solo earlier when I was playing sham, if your reading this 'sq' as we like to call you.. the qc button is there for a reason mate.
 

Eregion

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Kais said:
starquake almost died to me solo earlier when I was playing sham, if your reading this 'sq' as we like to call you.. the qc button is there for a reason mate.
can i touch you? :fluffle:
 

Jika

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Kiasar, u attacked me today aswell .. when I was afk on brynja :p not even hiding .. got me to 20% with dots, shears etc .. and still died ^_^
 

Jika

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illu said:
Bah - frankly I'm starting to get pissed off now with casters and their pets :)

So far tonight the score is again 4-0 + to Starquake, and tbh it's just plain bullshit :> Every fight, I haven't even HIT Starquake as every fight I've either been fighting someone else - then I get the massive pet put on me, or I fight and lag a horrendous amount, come back and am dead, ozrique luri invader archer attacks me, I manage to AE mezz him with ML9 poison, I run up the hill, 2 secs later mezzed by Starquake, and nuked down in 2 secs.

And the last one is the best, I run near starquake, and hit his trap. Hit for 300+. I leg it down the hill, he's still quite far away, I stealth up and - surprise surprise - big bloody chicken pet unstealths me and instastuns me. Starquake strolls along and zap zap zap dead. I had SoM up, AE Mezz poison up, AF shield charge, and got to use none of it. I think purge was down.

Frankly it's just bullshit :>

Give stealthers a RR5 ability that absorbs 90% casting damage for 30 secs, or give us more RPs per kill as casters get 900+ RPs per kill in 2 secs, while it takes us bloody ages to get the same.
OR get rid of pets uncovering people when they are stealthed - as that is just SO frustrating.

And no I refuse to get vanish as I'd rather put the 5 points somewhere else - but it's starting to get to the stage where this is getting ridiculous.

Last week RPs - Sorcerers
1 Cansina 164,973 50 BattleMasterS Inconnu
2 Grymulv Wilk 150,830 50 The Nalbs Briton
3 Magon 133,695 50 Dragon Knights Avalonian
4 Drmezz 129,987 50 Bulle Reloaded Inconnu
5 Stalino 120,878 50 The Nalbs Inconnu
6 Ginggi 119,549 50 Guardians of Light Inconnu
7 Starquake BAST 105,886 50 The Ministry Avalonian

Last week RPs - Shadowblades
1 Grimster 81,213 50 Pain Norseman
2 Chaostar 75,932 50 Valravens Norseman
3 Zaberhut 59,781 50 Valravens Kobold
4 Endac WhyYouLittle 59,651 50 Pain Kobold
5 Majiii DefenderOfBrynja 58,552 50 La'sse Kongos Krigare Norseman
6 Paradoxx 57,962 50 Frenzy Kobold
7 Tjorn Turk 52,159 50 Atreides Norseman

Alb - Infs
1 Lxn Iloveu 129,612 50 Guardians of Light Saracen
2 Papasan 122,005 50 Black Falcons Briton
3 Kruella DeVille 109,299 50 Paragons of Albion Briton
4 Amistat WannabeMerc 66,968 50 Legion of Darkness Briton
5 Binfil 65,780 50 Knights 0f The Round Table Saracen
6 Blow 64,583 50 Coeur de Lion Saracen
7 Grimz 58,331 50 Guts & Glory Briton

Hibs - NS's
1 Cyclodia MasterShade 113,261 50 Amicitiae Renatus Lurikeen
2 Soledad 80,520 50 Post Mortem Elf
3 Eolica 65,671 50 Celtic Fist Elf
4 Sethi HeHeYouGotOwned 65,481 50 Sweet Dreams Lurikeen
5 Legenden 64,081 50 Celtic Fist Lurikeen
6 Gaymer GOAWAYNUUB 59,786 50 Amicitiae Renatus Lurikeen
7 Sukubo 49,745 50 Post Mortem Elf

Says it all really. Midgard and Hib Stealthers cannot compete.........
/rant off

Oli - Illu

well, infeels dosent count .. GS gives them 80% of theyr rps :) :touch:
 

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thats because you play safe, you hardly move wo all ur cards in hand, camp dropoffs underwater for easy targets, etc etc etc nothing wrong with it, but its like snipers and campers in shooter games, ppl tends to dislike em because they play like they are actually risking their life (fags)
 

starquake

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lofff said:
thats because you play safe, you hardly move wo all ur cards in hand, camp dropoffs underwater for easy targets, etc etc etc nothing wrong with it, but its like snipers and campers in shooter games, ppl tends to dislike em because they play like they are actually risking their life (fags)

If there was guaranteed action for soloers wandering around then I would agreem but there isn't. Lets face it everyone congregates around the docks for some action. And it's not like stealthers don't camp the choke points is it?

And not playing without all my cards up is not true either. Do you see me go and hide for 15 mins after using them? I think not. If I get killed then the chances are when you next see me they will be up because thats how long it takes for me to get a decent pet. Not cos im hiding. :twak:
 

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Jika said:
Kiasar, u attacked me today aswell .. when I was afk on brynja :p not even hiding .. got me to 20% with dots, shears etc .. and still died ^_^

charge > me :(
 

Mirt

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If I get killed then the chances are when you next see me they will be up because thats how long it takes for me to get a decent pet. Not cos im hiding

Heh, that stun pet of yours wins most of the 1v1 I've had vs you ;P Ofc you tend to have most abilities up when ever I've found ya - not that I'm complaining they're there to be used.

What does suck is having warders kite me onto you...

Anyway I'll get my revenge - BA3 dents your dmg output a lot, and I'm tempted to invest in a lowbie warden body resist bot (I meet more sorcs solo than any other class).
 

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wait till i have my warlock!

*target starquake*
*press insta macro*
*you just earned 1000 free rp!*

*4 secs later*

*target random scout*
*press insta macro*
*you just earned another 1000 free rp*

and so on and on and on ;)
 

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Some Mid or Hib should roll a number of L50 mind sorcs who could just go and grab all stun chickens in the frontier at the beginning of a night and sit with them at Castle Sauvage while they RvR on their mains, blissfully saved from those stunning nightmares. :D
 

Methos

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Calo said:
wait till i have my warlock!

*target starquake*
*press insta macro*
*you just earned 1000 free rp!*

*4 secs later*

*target random scout*
*press insta macro*
*you just earned another 1000 free rp*

and so on and on and on ;)

or maybe:

*target random scout*
*press insta macro*
*you just earned another 30 free rp on RS scout*

*4 secs later*

*target starquake*
*gah shit chambers empty*
*starquake just earned 700 free rp!*
 

censi

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Some Mid or Hib should roll a number of L50 mind sorcs who could just go and grab all stun chickens in the frontier at the beginning of a night and sit with them at Castle Sauvage while they RvR on their mains, blissfully saved from those stunning nightmares.

you aint gonna be able to hijack the templer spawn which twat for 700 a pop or those archers that shoot for 800 though.

It aint the mobs thats the problem, its what that ill-conceived ml ability does to them that they need to fix.
 

pixieblue

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HAHA - We got you tonight Starquake, A bunch of us RD's were underwater near beno about Midnight Time, Good Job! you killed 2 of our grp ... Think myself(Huntress) and Bopp(BD) finished you off, you were very impressive :wub:

Ransid, Dubaxter, Nayalien, Bopp, Jodet, Shadowmanic and Myself were there to glory in your RP's :clap:
 

censi

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he must have had the jump on you or summin!

/salute to starquake
 

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censi said:
It aint the mobs thats the problem, its what that ill-conceived ml ability does to them that they need to fix.

oh yeah.

Should be dropped to 1m duration at most.
 

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