Goddamit Starquake! - I'll get you soon..... :>

[Dorin]

if you're fast enough to handle it yes, luckily, 99% of the active sorcs can't

its impossible according to aussie tho!!!!

anyways, easier to blame enemy instants than shity reflexes - no paning i guess.

 

[eissua]

here you got your proof, r2 bard vs r9L7 sorc

411 dex
10 spd
15 range (+2 vs players doesn't show in bonus overview)

both my calculations + this pic shows it is impossible to win vs instant

 

[vintervargen]

dont lead the grp as a sorc megam8

 

[etcetra]

how to kill a melee char easy with VW

use CB stunncharge
grapple
lifetap ^^

Because it is possible to lifetap when using grapple on an enemy.

 

[Lethul]

dont lead the grp as a sorc megam8

he doenst, if bard/healer got speed5 (maybe even 4?) and goes directly for him spamming insta he will win mezz. Its a fact

that screenie should quite clearly show that if you atleast look at it

 

[Phule_Gubben]

doesn't bards have instalull on 2300 range or something?

 

[Lethul]

doesn't bards have instalull on 2300 range or something?

yes? doesnt matter tho since lull effect dont show until "cast" is over and it says something like "you forgot what you are casting" and start to recast (if u spam mezz ;P). And he clearly aint interupted or anything on that screen either

 

[Kwidz]

here you got your proof, r2 bard vs r9L7 sorc

411 dex
10 spd
15 range (+2 vs players doesn't show in bonus overview)

both my calculations + this pic shows it is impossible to win vs instant

thats so stupid, if sorc dont lead mebe his mates before him got insta AOE mezzed, and not the sorc mebe it was 1500 range to his driver and 1875 to the sorc?

 

[Raven]

thats so stupid, if sorc dont lead mebe his mates before him got insta AOE mezzed, and not the sorc mebe it was 1500 range to his driver and 1875 to the sorc?

insta mez is on a timer, if sorc is at the back its harder for them to get single inst'd therfore they can mez on contact (assuming the group isnt bunched up, ie awake)

 

[Kwidz]

insta mez is on a timer, if sorc is at the back its harder for them to get single inst'd therfore they can mez on contact (assuming the group isnt bunched up, ie awake)

i just mean that the pic aint a proof lols

 

[Frostor]

thats so stupid, if sorc dont lead mebe his mates before him got insta AOE mezzed, and not the sorc mebe it was 1500 range to his driver and 1875 to the sorc?

and why would a bard use his insta for anyone else but the sorcer? DUMBO

are you saying you need a retarded bard who uses his insta on a leading merc with charge up to 'win' ?



makes sense

& lol at the timer excuse, the number of fg fights left... it's an always up ability..

 

[Tsolias]

how to beat starquake easy in 3 simple steps

1. roll a warlock in catacombs
2. load chambers
3. unload chambers

good one

made me laugh

 

[begach]

Starquake wasn't too great back just after ToA days an aint much now. Which you'll see when catacombs hits an his shit aint OP anymore. (I chained him one night killing ppl xping croc an harp in odins/OF.....till he came back with a fg.......was with my bard )

B.

 

[[HB]Jpeg]

how to kill a melee char easy with VW

use CB stunncharge
grapple
lifetap ^^

unless im mistaken he cant grapple and cast spells anymore. same as if my friar was bm i couldnt grapple n heal myslef (loved it earlier patches when i could) not tried it in nf. last time i tried it was vs urizen jsut before NF and he pa'd n stun chained me i managed to survive the pa chain. grappled him. i was stun immune but i couldnt cast any spells or heal myself at all. hence its been fixed so the caster of the grapple cant heal/cast spells .. but if i was to grapple a chanter for example he can cast spelly. just not vice versa

 

[Kwidz]

and why would a bard use his insta for anyone else but the sorcer? DUMBO

are you saying you need a retarded bard who uses his insta on a leading merc with charge up to 'win' ?



makes sense

& lol at the timer excuse, the number of fg fights left... it's an always up ability..

retard, AE insta mayb and if sorc dont split he get caught

 

[roovah]

and why would a bard use his insta for anyone else but the sorcer? DUMBO

are you saying you need a retarded bard who uses his insta on a leading merc with charge up to 'win' ?



makes sense

& lol at the timer excuse, the number of fg fights left... it's an always up ability..

all grps got mercs in em

 

[Ausbourne]

and if sorc dont split he get caught

and if he splits what is gonna stop the bard from instaing the sorcer?

 

[Kwidz]

and if he splits what is gonna stop the bard from instaing the sorcer?

not what i was talking about.. i just mean that pic aint a good proof to show that insta > sorcmezz... fyi

 

[roovah]

Because it is possible to lifetap when using grapple on an enemy.

isnt it if u used cb stun thingy?

 

[starquake]

There are some very bitter people on this forum :kissit:

 

[begach]

and if he splits what is gonna stop the bard from instaing the sorcer?

intelligence maybe? you'd have to be a complete moron to insta a FG an even worse to expect insta to do shit to a toa'd sorc with mezz dampening up. If you lost to that shit you got bigger probs in yer FG than instant mezz

Anyone who ever even saw a bard played or even (shock horror feckin tried one) would know this. Bard class has alot going for it but don't delude yourself that sorc isn't a far superior CC'er. Bards strength (and weakness) is in utility. They fill one spot and are depended upon to do alot of shit. If they fail then the group is fucked. An they aint the best at ANY of them. So gimme a break plz with the insta mezz bullshit.

B.

 

[Kwidz]

intelligence maybe? you'd have to be a complete moron to insta a FG an even worse to expect insta to do shit to a toa'd sorc with mezz dampening up. If you lost to that shit you got bigger probs in yer FG than instant mezz

Anyone who ever even saw a bard played or even (shock horror feckin tried one) would know this. Bard class has alot going for it but don't delude yourself that sorc isn't a far superior CC'er. Bards strength (and weakness) is in utility. They fill one spot and are depended upon to do alot of shit. If they fail then the group is fucked. An they aint the best at ANY of them. So gimme a break plz with the insta mezz bullshit.

B.

the problem is not the duration really cos 90% of the times purge is up...i think

 

[begach]

the problem is not the duration really cos 90% of the times purge is up...i think

If your sayin insta mezz is pretty much an interrupt on a 10 min timer giving mezz immunity an nothing else yeah i'd agree.

And if the moron was out of range spamming the spell (like the screenie shows) it aint anywhere near as fast as actually getting into range an castin it straight. if i stand still like a moron out of range spamming i can't land a castable either.

I've been on the flip side of this where i was inc to the sorc with single instant held down at speed 5 like a daft bugger..........the sorc wasn't nub an landed his mezz np with probably a shit load less than 400 dex.....the difference being i admit i got owned. Must be real hard being RR9L7 ;]

B.

 

[-TDA-Shaki]

zZzZz..... more ammo to nerf sorcs imo

My rm came across starquake in water near bled, was pretty easy once he was nearsighted, and ml9 pet was rooted, although he did do a kamizake run at me to get into range to moc/lifetap, the speed of the casting is insane, and lucky tbh i purged mezz earlier and had immunity or i was a gonner. But he did die in 2 nukes /em hugs mom4

Its all about range, up close with all his ra's up and pet hes pretty invincible thanks to lifetap.

 

[eggy]

This is a sorc whine in disguise I can feel it

 

[Kwidz]

sorc class aint OP.. the problem is that only pro's playing sorc

 

[Vodkafairy]

sorc class aint OP.. the problem is that only pro's playing sorc

yeah except that lime green fish, can't remember his name

 

[Dorin]

sorc class aint OP.. the problem is that only pro's playing sorc

you mean : lifetap - op rr5 ra - retarded ml9 pet - teh odd moc3?

/laugh

xD

 

[Dorin]

yeah except that lime green fish, can't remember his name

i do, but wont tell you !

:-O

 

[Rushie]

you mean : lifetap - op rr5 ra - retarded ml9 pet - teh odd moc3?

/laugh

xD

wishing u kept urs now?

on a serious note tho, u know what it was like to be a sorc "back in the day" and survivablity was a big prob with the class, mythic tried to fix this and gave sorc some serious loving, as always i think they over-done it a tad but u cant blame a player for using the tools given to them.