GOA to the rescue!

[Honza]

one of my guildmates fainted recently at the sight of the word 'warlock', the stress generated from this name is becomming overwhelming, I suggest immediate withdrawl of the class to solve the problem.

Agreed, every time I meet some I faint too. Only solution is /release. I am being very offended of it ;-)

 

[Dukat]

I agree Dukat, but maybe a poll is not whats needed (but i cant say for sure though), but maybe rightnowing ( im an optimist i know ) them with the statement saying that you disagree on their decision... I do fear that they already have flagged issues regarding RB as spam

I wondered about this as well, wondered about using rightnow, but since GoA contorl rightnow they can, as you say, flag the whole issue as spam and just continue to ignore us, with a poll they cant do much about it, as FH is not directly controlled by GoA.

Pffft, i even considered a small possibility that they would get their name back by saying 'probably', that's pretty damn optimistic coming from me.

Aye, sorry I didnt mean to use your line as an example, its just that every time I get involved in a situation like this, people just dont seem to fight for anything enough, I always prefer to have the attitude of 'I'm not happy and I won't stand for this', thats just me though, If you guys at RB dont mind then I suppose I shouldnt force the issue, I just hate seeing people getting walked over like this, the "the faster you accept it the better" line just makes me more defiant, always has, always will.

 

[Sock Drawer]

I think it is a shame that GOA run DAoC Europe in such a steel fisted way - it's almost like living in an oppressive communist country where whatever decisions GOA takes are final - so there (poking tongue).

I think GOA (if any of you are reading this - more than likely) you will gain a LOT more respect throughout the game by reversing this decision and admitting that your initial solution was an knee-jerk reaction to one (or more) complaints. As you can see by these responses, no one has complained and indeed are welcoming the guild and name into Camelot.

I find it hard that you can leave such a guild name go for well over 3 years and only NOW (in possibly the twighlight of the game) see fit that it is offensive. If you thought it was offensive, the word "bastard" would have been included in the banned word list for guild names and character names - but it wasn't - why?

A company that will never admit it was wrong, or overreacted is not one that WE (as a community) really want to see spearheading our game as the great overseers. As it is there is already a certain sense of "big brotherdom" within the game, but this level of policing goes far beyond "keeping the community happy". In fact as you can see, it has had quite the opposite effect.

To reverse the decision will not open your flood gates to a myriad of people complaining or taking the piss - it will simply let us see that GOA, although masters of the game, appreciate our community and our DEDICATION to the game. I mean imagine if RB decide to quit over this - you could lose 30 payed subscriptions or so (more with BBs etc) just because of an overreaction. Not good business sense to me.

Sorry it's a long post guys, but I really think you need to review things. I had an account banned (it's no secret) and actually started a new account. Name changes are against the CoC apparently, but I asked if my new character could be given the same name as my old one - because I was very attached to it (Sock). After a little toing and froing - a DISCUSSION - I was told by Zargar that he had agreed to it, and my new character was renamed. I was extremely pleased, and my respect and admiration for GOA increased ten-fold. I was then told Zargar was effectively either sacked or asked to resign (not after this decision) but because of various other customer services related issues. Turns out he was, wait for it - HELPING people. Shocking.

I think in addition to forming a poll for GOA - we should also reiterate our feelings to Mythic - after all they hold all the cards - and I'm sure the less of a community is being provided for the EU players, the less pleased they'll be with GOA running affairs on our side of the pond?

Anyway - long waffling rant over lol.

 

[Dukat]

I think it is a shame that GOA run DAoC Europe in such a steel fisted way - it's almost like living in an oppressive communist country where whatever decisions GOA takes are final - so there (poking tongue).

I think GOA (if any of you are reading this - more than likely) you will gain a LOT more respect throughout the game by reversing this decision and admitting that your initial solution was an knee-jerk reaction to one (or more) complaints. As you can see by these responses, no one has complained and indeed are welcoming the guild and name into Camelot.

I find it hard that you can leave such a guild name go for well over 3 years and only NOW (in possibly the twighlight of the game) see fit that it is offensive. If you thought it was offensive, the word "bastard" would have been included in the banned word list for guild names and character names - but it wasn't - why?

A company that will never admit it was wrong, or overreacted is not one that WE (as a community) really want to see spearheading our game as the great overseers. As it is there is already a certain sense of "big brotherdom" within the game, but this level of policing goes far beyond "keeping the community happy". In fact as you can see, it has had quite the opposite effect.

To reverse the decision will not open your flood gates to a myriad of people complaining or taking the piss - it will simply let us see that GOA, although masters of the game, appreciate our community and our DEDICATION to the game. I mean imagine if RB decide to quit over this - you could lose 30 payed subscriptions or so (more with BBs etc) just because of an overreaction. Not good business sense to me.

Sorry it's a long post guys, but I really think you need to review things. I had an account banned (it's no secret) and actually started a new account. Name changes are against the CoC apparently, but I asked if my new character could be given the same name as my old one - because I was very attached to it (Sock). After a little toing and froing - a DISCUSSION - I was told by Zargar that he had agreed to it, and my new character was renamed. I was extremely pleased, and my respect and admiration for GOA increased ten-fold. I was then told Zargar was effectively either sacked or asked to resign (not after this decision) but because of various other customer services related issues. Turns out he was, wait for it - HELPING people. Shocking.

I think in addition to forming a poll for GOA - we should also reiterate our feelings to Mythic - after all they hold all the cards - and I'm sure the less of a community is being provided for the EU players, the less pleased they'll be with GOA running affairs on our side of the pond?

Anyway - long waffling rant over lol.

Couldnt have said it better myself ^^ damn well said that man!

 

[Aeva]

Mythic are idiots, so are GoA

what more can I say? :<

 

[Flimgoblin]

was fairly sure that Zargar left of his own decision (he got a cushier job somewhere else ) but there may well have been other things pushing him out too (maybe Dep complained about being swindled out of 50g...).

However if it was for helping people they'd have to boot all the current GMs

 

[Oboy]

imo all members of RB should send a question to RN everyday about this untill GOA change the name back. In every new question u come up with a new argument (silly ones). After a month the will get tired and change the name back.

And btw GOA should work on importent stuff like the new patch with clustering instead of this shit and useless WAP services thats not even a standard in modern mobiles anymore, lol

 

[Lestat]

Well, they did it again. You are now all safe from being offended by my guilds naem <Righteous Bastards>.

As of today the good, hard working people at GOA decided to change our guildname from <Rghteous Bastards> to <Righteous Brothers>.

It is in our case the word Bastard which they find offending, how they've missed the fact that we've been around since release and was even called Righteous Bastards in open EU Beta, is beyond me. Even considering they have items called with the word bastard, like Bastard Sword.

What will further happen i can't tell, we'll prolly knock our heads together and find some other nice guild name to offend them with, but hey, we do have a 3yeah advantage before they'll notice

Anyway, go GOA, just ruined a whole guilds day!

*sight* Thats GOA in a nutshell imo, instead of fixing more important issues they "play" around with small lame things.

<Righteous Brothers> <--??? EHR what ??? If the name has been ok in 3years, how come they change mind now? ... Lemme explain: THIS IS NOTHING BUT A PROVOCATION... or mebbe a new nub in the staff with nothing to do.

 

[Metalshade]

Hi all, I am the girlie member of the Rightous Bastards,
I joined in this guild because it had the most coolest name in whole daoc/europe.

I logged in while ago and what did I saw??? :eek2:
My guild name were gone, GOA might had a bad day, atleast their humor were way too much to me...(how gay sounds Righteous Brothers??lol, I wanna die)

To GOA, I have been paying my account every month, why?
Because i want to have fun, i want to play,I wanna belong in guild because it is online game, having guild with name is part of the game and having fun with different personalities or was it?

To you Righteous Bastards may just raise a tiny smile, all who knows our guildies knows that it is just a name for the bunch of fun ppl, we are not evil to anyone, calling eachothers bastards in guild chat is our own choice, i think...
Do I seem suffering?
yes because GOA takes the name away after 3 years, maybe it was my fault since i asked game masters somethign and they realized our name is too much, or maybe someone thought that we need to be punished because we are bastards and act prolly like ones.

I don't know,
I am just sad...

To me RB is important since i had been proud to be their member, I have been bastard and proud of it

I will be always,
truth is that GOA made me think about again do I need to pay them every month, even the game is not so fun anymore, only stupid name to GOA, to me: my dear guildies, those lovely bastards...

Kisses to all my dear guildies, in my heart you are always lovely bastards who gave me a shot when I needed a guild and friends.

Metal...

 

[Dafft]

Basically if a name is reported as offensive - and it's reasonable to be offended by it - then it will be changed. A lot of people may not have been offended by your guild name but if some people are, then we have to change it.

Does that mean any name can be offending?

 

[Glottis]

Goa are fat smelly frogs.
Have had trouble finding a decent hoster for 3 years, so no surprise they would finally change a guilds name despite having ingame items called "Bastard". Maybe it was a copyright thing, as they feel they are bastards themselves?
And I cannot believe a GM would actually try to justify GoA making an ass of themselves
Regards, Glottis

 

[Raven]

bastard sword has nothing to do with a fatherless child, but anyway, i agree this is utter shit, what harm was it doing? dont they have anything better to do?
I have an idea, they could fix the constant crashing in emain which is once again making the game unplayable.

 

[Himse]

Basically if a name is reported as offensive - and it's reasonable to be offended by it - then it will be changed. A lot of people may not have been offended by your guild name but if some people are, then we have to change it.

Tell them there are two meanings ++ of bastard.....?

Think about it.. how can it be offending when it is from Medievil times?

Change it back imo

and the person who reported must be either a kid, or his dad saw it while he was playing his game

 

[Nocode]

Yes, the hilarious players who name themselves;

Dwarf <The Prodigy>, Level 50 Cabalist on Excalibur: 174,474 RP (RR3L8, Last Week: 82,367), required for RR3L9: 192,850 (18,376 to go), required for RR4: 213,875 (39,401 to go) Class Rank: 102 overall, 6 last week

Shar SeaShanty <Praetoria Legion>, Level 50 Scout on Excalibur: 0 RP (RR1L1, Last Week: 0), required for RR1L2: 25 (25 to go), required for RR2: 7,125 (7,125 to go) Class Rank: 1373 overall, 169 last week

etc.

Ok just to clear up something.
Shar Seashanty been in game LONG LONG before Mythic named a race Shar.
Not sure if it was from day 1 but pretty much from start.

 

[pinkey]

cant believe GoA have changed the name it just shows what miserble bastards they really are, hope u get ur name changed back although it wont be likely, and GoA decide to sort out other things in the game before they start changing guild names.

 

[zeusmdk]

nothing left to say that has not been said before , but you have the support from us here at GnD and GL with trying to get it back

GOA

 

[Thorwyn]

bastard sword has nothing to do with a fatherless child,

...neither has bastard.

http://dict.die.net/bastard/

 

[Kanim]

Hi all, I am the girlie member of the Rightous Bastards,
I joined in this guild because it had the most coolest name in whole daoc/europe.

I logged in while ago and what did I saw??? :eek2:
My guild name were gone, GOA might had a bad day, atleast their humor were way too much to me...(how gay sounds Righteous Brothers??lol, I wanna die)

To GOA, I have been paying my account every month, why?
Because i want to have fun, i want to play,I wanna belong in guild because it is online game, having guild with name is part of the game and having fun with different personalities or was it?

To you Righteous Bastards may just raise a tiny smile, all who knows our guildies knows that it is just a name for the bunch of fun ppl, we are not evil to anyone, calling eachothers bastards in guild chat is our own choice, i think...
Do I seem suffering?
yes because GOA takes the name away after 3 years, maybe it was my fault since i asked game masters somethign and they realized our name is too much, or maybe someone thought that we need to be punished because we are bastards and act prolly like ones.

I don't know,
I am just sad...

To me RB is important since i had been proud to be their member, I have been bastard and proud of it

I will be always,
truth is that GOA made me think about again do I need to pay them every month, even the game is not so fun anymore, only stupid name to GOA, to me: my dear guildies, those lovely bastards...

Kisses to all my dear guildies, in my heart you are always lovely bastards who gave me a shot when I needed a guild and friends.

Metal...

well brothers implies its made up of male members, report the new name saying you feel discriminated against and see how they respond

 

[Belomar]

Shar Seashanty been in game LONG LONG before Mythic named a race Shar.

Indeed. Strange that an old-timer like Eggy doesn't remember that.

 

[eggy]

Ok just to clear up something.
Shar Seashanty been in game LONG LONG before Mythic named a race Shar.
Not sure if it was from day 1 but pretty much from start.

In which case I apologise Wasn't aware of that, so fair enough

 

[Huntingtons]

i got the time to send a RN complaint about the name change and ill try and come up with a new "valid" argument everyday starting from today because this is simply retarded.

/edit
No. 1 sent.

 

[Chaz]

i got the time to send a RN complaint about the name change and ill try and come up with a new "valid" argument everyday starting from today because this is simply retarded.

/edit
No. 1 sent.

Thx for the support mate, much appreciated

 

[Matteh]

I thought the meaning was clear enough. If this is the best you can do, whining at foreigners speaking a language other than their mother tongue, then I suggest you reply to Nibor's post in German so that he can pick it apart in turn. Thank you.

/dismiss

I wasnt whining I was being serious (albiet stupid at the same time) I did not understand it neither did I know he wasn't English. I asked HIM to EXPLAIN it not for some random prick to flame me because I didn't undertsand it. If this is a poor attempt to make a stab at me, you succeeded. I don't speak a word of German and I'm not going to attempt to because I know I will fail. Maybe he can speak much better English than I can any other language but that's not my forté so I will leave it at that. You can criticise me all you want but it doesn't make the slightest difference to anyone except maybe your's and Nibor's egos. /flipoff

Definition of Dwarf: a person who is abnormally small
Inconnu's are abnormally small.

Fair enough I didnt really think about it like that. However it still kind of messes things up when I can't see someones name above their head, I click on the target, great its a dwarf what do I do... run or fight, hmm fight ok <prepares for battle> er ? die? die? die? oh ur in my realm....ok.

http://dict.die.net/bastard/

Lol at the n1: synonyms. Kinda doesn't help much



Give back the damn name GOA you unRighteous Bastards!

well brothers implies its made up of male members, report the new name saying you feel discriminated against and see how they respond

lol gj

 

[Sollac]

this motion by GOA does seem to be a bit off......

perhaps this is retribution against the english for such events as:.......


AGINCOURT......

Ask your ancestors what the longbowmen did to the french then......I guess from most of the posts here we're doing it again......

TBH if GOA are being petty why not just /delete all albions as we dont get any love, like mid and hib.....

Give the Righteous BASTARDS there name back.... petty french, surprised the goa team isnt on strike like most of the other professions atm.

ps.... BASTARD = insulting terms of address for people who are stupid or irritating or ridiculous ...........nuff said i think

 

[Comos]

Fair enough I didnt really think about it like that. However it still kind of messes things up when I can't see someones name above their head, I click on the target, great its a dwarf what do I do... run or fight, hmm fight ok <prepares for battle> er ? die? die? die? oh ur in my realm....ok.

I also honostly never intended for it to be confusing, I never thought about that when I made the char, which was a very long time ago, only started lvling him recently. I never did any BG with him so I didnt get reminded of it either then.
I named him that just cuz I thought it would be original to have a small person, who is by definition a dwarf, named Dwarf.
If I could change it now, I would and have already asked a GM about that, but they won't do that, unless it's offending.
So a few ppl are welcome to be offended by it, so it would be changed I'm sure the "dwarfism" offence is just as valid as the bastards one... if not more

 

[Matteh]

lool I'm sure GOA aren't going to listen to anyone ever again if they read this thread

 

[Killerbee]

Ridiculous. A few ppl got offended (2-3? even if a bit more, really a minority) and they changed your guild name what didnt bother a few thousend players over the years. Its even worse than the politically incorrect (or something similar) thing in the USA.
Actually really amazed after it why are they going to cluster the servers when the minority of the players voted against it?! Such nonsense GoA m8s!!!

/point GoA
/laugh

Edit: They should let us to express our credit to guild, char names and count them when someone got offended by them... Ofc you actually can do it, but really doubt it would count at all

 

[rampant]

I also honostly never intended for it to be confusing, I never thought about that when I made the char, which was a very long time ago, only started lvling him recently. I never did any BG with him so I didnt get reminded of it either then.
I named him that just cuz I thought it would be original to have a small person, who is by definition a dwarf, named Dwarf.
If I could change it now, I would and have already asked a GM about that, but they won't do that, unless it's offending.
So a few ppl are welcome to be offended by it, so it would be changed I'm sure the "dwarfism" offence is just as valid as the bastards one... if not more

DONT CHANGE YER NAME DWARVEEEEEE - who else can we laugh at when the driver screams 'INCOMMMIIIINGGGGG' only to find an alb wandering past - ive pissed myself laffin over the past couple of weeks - keep it up..

 

[Sock Drawer]

Guys - on top of everyones comments rgarding the name change - you are doing RBs cause NO justice by sitting here calling GOA names, and slagging of their nation. Don't get me wrong, I'm sometimes the first to lose my rag and blow out in an extremely "un-PC" way lol - but in this instance - do you think GOA are going to look at the posts and say "you know - we ARE silly french co**s and we really should give them back their name - our bad"

It aint gonna happen - if you approach GOA with maturity - then MAYBE - just MAYBE they'll extend you the same courtesy.

On a slightly additional note - it would be nice if GOA would make available some form of interactive chat within their customer support - so that in a situation like this, a DISCUSSION can be formed between 2 parties, 1 on 1 and actually TALK about reasonings behind decisions, and how these can be changed. WE are after all, your clients, your employers if you like, and so we'd like at least SOME form of respect in return please - we're all grown ups here (mostly lol).

Also, I wonder if someone made the guild name GOA SUCKS, or MUPPETS OF GOA - would they change the name? I am of course referring to the Indian location, and not the French company - but would that matter? Interpretation must not be taken too literally all the time GOA, and you do need to think of the greater good, rather than the select few. I for one have probably had more run ins with your CS team over "not so pleasant" things than a LOT of people on this server - and sometimes you have been very heavy handed, other times not so. If you at least listen to people and offer a compromise, it's a step forward. I've had a 7 day ban reduced to a 3 day ban in the past after lengthy discussions with the CS team - which shows you have (had) some degree of compromise / understanding. To say you will never reverse a decision, is quite frankly just wrong.

Bah - why do I find myself typing so much lol. Bloody fingers

 

[Matteh]

I've had a 7 day ban reduced to a 3 day ban in the past after lengthy discussions with the CS team

someones been a naughty boy