GO GO NF Reavers!

[stubbe]

new alb groupsetup. Sorc-Mez, merc - agony transmission, 3 reavers - pbae life drain ra-thingie, 3 leechers (or VP-wizzies if you want to make triplesure everything instadies xD)

 

[Pin]

pfft. drop the merc, the reavers have AT anyway.

 

[harebear]

I wonder how many reavers have been made since people saw this picture...

 

[Skilgannon]

Actually, if enough people whine about it, then it'll get nerfed

Collective whining is not always reliable, despite the best of efforts. Chanters are a prime example.

Having said that, as it is an Albion ability, it will probably only require 3 whines to have it reduced to 100 radius, 25 delve on 30 min timer and makes enemies immune to cold and spirit damage for 1 minute.

 

[Ghaladriel]

I wonder how many reavers have been made since people saw this picture...

LOL ye xD

 

[Tilda]

If we looked how many players, let alone Reavers, have achieved 960k rp in the last 10 weeks, or any 10 weeks, then I think we can say it is very much above the norm.

2 Players have been pretty much able to insta-kill a zerg for a long while. 516 ae dmg every 10 mins for high SR spec and RR5 isn't as overpowered as that damage pbaoe every second.

I'd acctually say a large number of excal reavers who RvR'ed constantly had little difficulty in making 960k in 10 weeks.
I daresay me, pin, nightpetal managed it.

Skilgannon, 2 moc pbaoers have been able to kill a zerg very fast previously, but never instantly Although they can cast at very fast speeds, and do 700-1000 dammage a cast, thats never insta-killed as they still have a cast team.
However reavers on Us servers can now quite literally insta-kill zergs. ML8 ability and UToS has no cast timer, so they can quite litertally run in and press 2 buttons to kill everybody. Whereas a zerg could easily slam, stun, amnesia or otherwise interupt the 2 pbaoers, even if they used MoC, I'd go as far as saying that nobody can react fastenough even with instamez, to target a reaver in a zerg and press instamez before the reaver can press the ML8 and UToS button.

Tilda

 

[Belomar]

There are plenty of other classes out there that need to be hit with the bat way before Reavers.

Don't set yourself up for it, you know it will be nerfed.

 

[behatch]

I bet it wont last long,people are saying nerf it allready

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

imo let reavers have it longer they find it hard enough to find rvr groups at the best of times. so let em have uber toys for longer

imo its not overpowered (the version in herbies pic) it aint as if it is whipping you for 600+ dmge every 1.5seconds like chanters can do. there are more things in this game IMO i'd call overpowered before id call for a nerf to reavers ml8 rr5 ability.

 

[dual]

Correct me if im wrong, but ain't the ml8 ability 33% of the enemys CURRENT health and not of the total?

 

[Ilienwyn]

Correct me if im wrong, but ain't the ml8 ability 33% of the enemys CURRENT health and not of the total?

Yes, that's why you do it first cause user also loses around 70% of his life so with reaver ra he is healed too.




Btw, if no one noticed, the reaver in first screenshot not only has 50soul but also has capped pie. Reaver ra seems to scale with both so 500 is not that much.
The important thing is that should be about the most you can get from it so maybe other realms should get more spirit resists (especially mids)....

PS: The RA has dropoff despite what it says on site, so don't stack up...

 

[Tilda]

However he stated on the original thread that he had hardly any soul over 50.
Which means you're find with 36 +11, +4-5 off your RR.
Im guessing that as long as your effective soul is 50, its pie that makes the difference.
However he dosn't say how much MoM he has either which would raise dammage.

Tilda

 

[Danya]

imo let reavers have it longer they find it hard enough to find rvr groups at the best of times. so let em have uber toys for longer

imo its not overpowered (the version in herbies pic) it aint as if it is whipping you for 600+ dmge every 1.5seconds like chanters can do. there are more things in this game IMO i'd call overpowered before id call for a nerf to reavers ml8 rr5 ability.

Version in herbs pic is pre-NF. The new version is shown in the original screenshot...
And no it's not like casters PBAEing, it's more like everyone insta-dies.

 

[Pin]

Correct me if im wrong, but ain't the ml8 ability 33% of the enemys CURRENT health and not of the total?

Yes, and 2 Reavers using 2xAT, 2xPA, 2xSQ is enough for 2750 ae damage, almost instantly.

Btw, if no one noticed, the reaver in first screenshot not only has 50soul but also has capped pie. Reaver ra seems to scale with both so 500 is not that much.
The important thing is that should be about the most you can get from it so maybe other realms should get more spirit resists (especially mids)....

It's not affected by resists, as you can see in the screenshot (unless everyone it hit had 0% resists) - no (-xx) text.
He also doesn't have 'capped pie' - he could have 230 if he wanted.
And you don't know what +SR he has on his gear. 67 vs 57 is quite some difference. Also don't know what MoM and +dmg stuff he has.
If he's just respecced to 50SR to test the damage, I'd expect it to be possible to raise it much higher and max damage on this RA to be more like 700, rather than 500.

PS: The RA has dropoff despite what it says on site, so don't stack up...

It has no drop-off, as you can see in the screenshot (unless everyone it hit was standing perfectly on top of the Reaver) - constant 516 damage, except on Kielath and the pet (higher damage on those due to their level)

 

[Ilienwyn]

However he stated on the original thread that he had hardly any soul over 50.
Which means you're find with 36 +11, +4-5 off your RR.
Im guessing that as long as your effective soul is 50, its pie that makes the difference.
However he dosn't say how much MoM he has either which would raise dammage.

Tilda

Well, I couldn't fit any +soulrending or pie in my template. Don't know what uber template someone can make in order to fit all the stuff in...

 

[Night]

I dont have any pie or SR in my temp either :x

 

[Pin]

Well, I couldn't fit any +soulrending or pie in my template. Don't know what uber template someone can make in order to fit all the stuff in...

That's only because you prioritised capping everything else. If you want to max SQ damage, drop something else.

 

[Ilienwyn]

More:

 

[Galaha]

:eek2:

 

[Rulke]

Makes me cry tbh, they nerfed AM and VR not to heal the user so it wouldnt overpower solo skalds and mincers (I guess) then they give reavers whats basically a free IP1-2 that also does damage. Will totally overpower them 1 on 1 (they are uber already) and will make them waaaay to powerful in groups too.

Cant see it not being nerfed tbh.

 

[harebear]

With pictures like this I doubt it will make it (in its current form) to euro servers. Luckily.

 

[Ilienwyn]

With pictures like this I doubt it will make it (in its current form) to euro servers. Luckily.

Well, will propably respeccc to 50soul if it stays like this. With 36soul it won't be that hard. Oh, can you get me the average of spirit resists especially mids have in their templates?

 

[Parlain]

lol you can hear the nerf bat inc now

Still watch ppl start to roll reavers ^^

 

[Skilgannon]

I'd acctually say a large number of excal reavers who RvR'ed constantly had little difficulty in making 960k in 10 weeks.
I daresay me, pin, nightpetal managed it.


Tilda

Hmmm. Facts say otherwise.

Which 1 of you has averaged 960k every 10 weeks? I daresay neither you, Pin or Nightpetal. Which other Reavers?

960k over 10 weeks for a Reaver is exceptional. That is almost RR6. How many RR6+ Reavers on Excal? Answer = 6. So who are the 'large number'? So where are these 96k a week Reavers? There is not 1 single Reaver on Excal doing that.

I daresay some could make it. The point was that the guy has done extremely well. Facts bear that out.

 

[Fluid]

Hmmm. Facts say otherwise.

Which 1 of you has averaged 960k every 10 weeks? I daresay neither you, Pin or Nightpetal. Which other Reavers?

960k over 10 weeks for a Reaver is exceptional. That is almost RR6. How many RR6+ Reavers on Excal? Answer = 6. So who are the 'large number'? So where are these 96k a week Reavers? There is not 1 single Reaver on Excal doing that.

I daresay some could make it. The point was that the guy has done extremely well. Facts bear that out.

the fact reavers are a totally underused class stops them making such rp's, 96k is absoloutly nothing in 1 week, can get that playing a few hrs per day solo in odin's without great trouble

 

[Karmona]

It will be nerfed soon xD

 

[Skilgannon]

96k is absoloutly nothing in 1 week, can get that playing a few hrs per day solo in odin's without great trouble

Granted. 96k in a week is easy, or is it? If 96k a week was easy soloing in Odins for a few hours a day then why aren't there any RR10 Reavers? All of the current RR6+ Reavers rolled prior to, or soon after, SI was launched. At least 70 weeks have past since then.

Yes, Reavers haven't enjoyed the best press as far as most Albs are concerned. Yes, Reavers have struggled for groups. That only makes it even more remarkable that a Reaver did make 960k in 10 weeks. He is no doubt not the only one, but he is certainly the exception rather than the rule wouldn't you agree?

 

[Ilienwyn]

I have done 100-120k a couple weeks so far and then go on to 2-3 following weeks at about 20k each. I love playing reaver but it isn't easy at all to get into good rvr groups...

 

[Night]

When i rvr'd alot, 90k+ was easy to get a week, could sometimes get it in a day if i started early enough...but werent you on mid/pry around that time?

 

[Dawn]

dont measure alb rps with hib standards, fluid