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PJS

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its a bit much considering its also effectively a 100% IP
 

Fluid

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hehe, the age of the fotm reaver will be upon us soon :)
 

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Kagato said:
And they give armsman snapshot... :rolleyes:

I'd sure like to meet Mythics balance guy in person, 1 minute is all i'd need....
I think I could get my point accross in a lot less than 1 min......
 

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It will be good :D
However the gimped UToS dammage shown at the bottom of herbals screenie is the pre-toa one. Its far more powerful in ToA.
It might be nice to see a few pbaoe/reaver groups.
land mez, con debuff
ML8 ability,
pbaoe a bit
UToS
dead group xD

Tilda
 

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Do resists affect either the ML8 BL thing or the RR5 reaver doo-hicky?
 

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Herbal's screenshot is the current version (taken in 1.69) - ML8 BL Reavers with 'gimpy UTos' able to drop a zerg to <50%.
The first screenshot shows the NF version, doing over 2x damage when high SR-spec (with no drop-off).

Yes, 2 BL Reavers will be able to insta-kill zergs. But don't worry, it's on a 10-minute timer :p


(Bound to be nerfed within a week and we'll get the nerfed version :rolleyes: )
 

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Phule_Gubben said:
Soul Quench Active

600sec reuse timer

Free at RR5

Insta-PBAE attack that drains 250 points (modified up or down by the Reavers SR level) from all nearby enemies and returns 75% to the Reaver.

250 points is acceptable but 500+ is a bit hefty. think this RA will be so clubbed :)
You gotta be damn high in SR to get that sorta dmg, not sure people will compromise to get it.
 

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Gorbash said:
omg, sod that and get mine and grants to 50 ;)
pfft yer on yer own, dont be lazy :p

Find me nailahs robes and I'll go bak to leveling artis and pl ya
 

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Rulke said:
Do resists affect either the ML8 BL thing or the RR5 reaver doo-hicky?

Resists certainly affect the RR5 ability. To be getting 516 dmg the Reaver was almost certainly 50+ SR. The TL claims that 36SR is where SQ (the RR5 ability) hits par dmg of around 220 after base resists.

That means every spec point of SR above 36 means higher dmg. I respecced 50 SR but my template only has +2. Gonna rework it now to get full +11. 50+17 SR and max pie should get higher dmg than the Reaver in the screenie who was only RR5.

And it crits :)

The other factor is TWF. Def gonna get this to level 3 straightaway. Quite a few whines about how 2 Reavers wiped 4fg mids at the Keep Lord with TWF and the ML8+ML2+SQ bomb.

RAs at NF launch (hopefully RR7L5)

TWF3
Purge 2
WP 3
Block 3
 

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Skilgannon said:
Resists certainly affect the RR5 ability. To be getting 516 dmg the Reaver was almost certainly 50+ SR. The TL claims that 36SR is where SQ (the RR5 ability) hits par dmg of around 220 after base resists.

That means every spec point of SR above 36 means higher dmg. I respecced 50 SR but my template only has +2. Gonna rework it now to get full +11. 50+17 SR and max pie should get higher dmg than the Reaver in the screenie who was only RR5.

And it crits :)

The other factor is TWF. Def gonna get this to level 3 straightaway. Quite a few whines about how 2 Reavers wiped 4fg mids at the Keep Lord with TWF and the ML8+ML2+SQ bomb.
Resists don't affect the ability (as you can see in the screenshot).
The Reaver in the SS is RR7L5, specced 50SR, has 176 Pie (don't know his +SR on his gear), so you won't see much difference from that damage.
The damage is affected by MoM aswell as being able to crit (don't know how much MoM or +magicdmg he has).

"It's nice for the yanks to betatest this stuff for us"
 

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Pin said:
Resists don't affect the ability (as you can see in the screenshot).
The Reaver in the SS is RR7L5, specced 50SR, has 176 Pie (don't know his +SR on his gear), so you won't see much difference from that damage.
The damage is affected by MoM aswell as being able to crit (don't know how much MoM or +magicdmg he has).

"It's nice for the yanks to betatest this stuff for us"

Edevdra has certainly got a shift on. RR7 in one screenie, RR6 in another and RR5 in another. All within 11 weeks. Pretty good going.

As for peeps saying that it will be nerfed. Maybe, but you have to spec for it to do that damage. Perhaps this is what MF meant when he said that they were looking at ways to encourage players to spec SR.

There are plenty of other classes out there that need to be hit with the bat way before Reavers.
 

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How does it compare to wrath of champions3, 750 dmg pb attack?
 

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fiontan said:
How does it compare to wrath of champions3, 750 dmg pb attack?

Wrath of Champions doesn't lifedrain. This not only does the dmg but heals the Reaver. The whole point behind this is that the Reaver can divebomb a box with ML8 and then hit SQ to inflict further dmg and heal the downside of ML8.

Wrath of Champions could be used with Banelord ML8 but the user gonna be very vulnerable if the whole group doesn't die whereas the reaver is back to full health.
 

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Skilgannon said:
Edevdra has certainly got a shift on. RR7 in one screenie, RR6 in another and RR5 in another. All within 11 weeks. Pretty good going.
6L4 dated April 19th. 6L7 dated May 10th. 7L5 dated June 27th. 10 weeks for 960k RPs is hardly special.

Skilgannon said:
As for peeps saying that it will be nerfed. Maybe, but you have to spec for it to do that damage. Perhaps this is what MF meant when he said that they were looking at ways to encourage players to spec SR.

There are plenty of other classes out there that need to be hit with the bat way before Reavers.
Doesn't matter that someone 'has to spec for it' imo. 2 people shouldn't be able to insta-kill a zerg every 10 minutes.
 

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Pin said:
Doesn't matter that someone 'has to spec for it' imo. 2 people shouldn't be able to insta-kill a zerg every 10 minutes.

Well what is the difference between a MoC pb + healing buddy now? They dont even have the timer, and zergs usually mean lower lvl and experience players.
 

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Aerendur said:
Well what is the difference between a MoC pb + healing buddy now? They dont even have the timer, and zergs usually mean lower lvl and experience players.

They don't have a timer?? Didn't know MoC was a passive RA now ;)
 

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Eredrin said:
They don't have a timer?? Didn't know MoC was a passive RA now ;)
????

are you implying that the ml8 or rr5 ability is passive or smth?

NEXT.
 

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2x reavers
Banelord ML8
Wrack Aura
Both debuff aura's
RR5 ability

= Insta zerg wipe :D, about time reaver's got a bit of a boost for RvR but i was thinking more along the lines of Stocism not a insta-zerg killer ;)
 

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Aerendur said:
Well what is the difference between a MoC pb + healing buddy now? They dont even have the timer, and zergs usually mean lower lvl and experience players.
MoC has a timer. PB has a cast time. 3x PB has 3x cast-time. PB has drop-off. PB is affected by resists. MoC gives reduced damage in NF.


Not saying that others cannot do similar things, but that doesn't mean it's 'right'.
 

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acei said:
2x reavers
Banelord ML8
Wrack Aura
Both debuff aura's
RR5 ability

= Insta zerg wipe :D, about time reaver's got a bit of a boost for RvR but i was thinking more along the lines of Stocism not a insta-zerg killer ;)

tjo, the only zerg is the alb zerg and this one you can't attack :p
 

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If its too powerfull, it will get nerfed... It took a while, but they did nerf MoC + PBAoE... Also, some ML's (looks at zone of unmana) can almost disable MoC groups...

This RA makes some of the other class ra's look a bit well, lame :p
 

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Pin said:
MoC has a timer. PB has a cast time. 3x PB has 3x cast-time. PB has drop-off. PB is affected by resists. MoC gives reduced damage in NF.


Not saying that others cannot do similar things, but that doesn't mean it's 'right'.
Casters are also somewhat easier to kill than reavers having less hp, less armour, no shield, no evade...
 

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Pin said:
6L4 dated April 19th. 6L7 dated May 10th. 7L5 dated June 27th. 10 weeks for 960k RPs is hardly special.


Doesn't matter that someone 'has to spec for it' imo. 2 people shouldn't be able to insta-kill a zerg every 10 minutes.

If we looked how many players, let alone Reavers, have achieved 960k rp in the last 10 weeks, or any 10 weeks, then I think we can say it is very much above the norm.

2 Players have been pretty much able to insta-kill a zerg for a long while. 516 ae dmg every 10 mins for high SR spec and RR5 isn't as overpowered as that damage pbaoe every second.
 

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Danya said:
Casters are also somewhat easier to kill than reavers having less hp, less armour, no shield, no evade...

That's why they can cast it every second instead of every 10 mins. If we were talking about every second I think it would be a tad overpowered on a chain wearer.
 

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Skilgannon said:
That's why they can cast it every second instead of every 10 mins. If we were talking about every second I think it would be a tad overpowered on a chain wearer.
Thats why VP got nerfed (15 mins timer on a cloth caster), thats why MW3 got nerfed (30 mins timer on a cloth caster)...

Casters are easy to stop, thats why their allowed to do more dmg per cast... Heck, even MoC was/is always easy to stop via slam/mez/amnesia... Casters without MoC are easy to stop (definitly by reavers)...

If this in combination with other spells turns out to be overpowered, it will get nerfed... Actually, if enough people whine about it, then it'll get nerfed :p
 

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